Is the camera that good ? can it really handle low light ?

**Paul Smith4** · 12-04-2012, 01:39 PM

I heard everyone going on and on about the time shift feature in the bb10 camera but is the camera on its own really good ??
because im some1 that loves taking pictures and i feel a phone should always be handy for that and as much as i love time shift i need to know how good the camera is on its own.
as can any1 give me any ideas on that pls?

**aragone79** · 12-05-2012, 01:33 AM

I do tried London Camera at the club room where has low light intensity. The picture was produced by London Camera makes me can see which part of the room is heavy smoke, moderate, or even clear one. Hope this can help you.

**Vector-SS** · 12-05-2012, 02:03 AM

^^ Interesting.

Another posted recently mentioned that it's not good in low light conditions, comparing it to the S3.

**gng11** · 12-05-2012, 03:09 AM

If anybody at RIM is reading this, do suggest to the brass that the camera has some time to be tweaked before launch to enable low-light shooting!

**aragone79** · 12-05-2012, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by gng11

If anybody at RIM is reading this, do suggest to the brass that the camera has some time to be tweaked before launch to enable low-light shooting!

agree with you, it needs a little bit tweak for camera and all and everything.

**Gerii** · 12-05-2012, 06:35 AM

They can't do much with the camera as the hardware is set in stone. They can only do some minor software improvements but they can't change the sensor size or the f-stop which would really help with low light performance.
But then I'm spoiled by the awesome cameras in my Nokia Symbian smartphones and their huge sensors and xenon flashes.

**Vector-SS** · 12-05-2012, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Gerii

They can't do much with the camera as the hardware is set in stone. They can only do some minor software improvements but they can't change the sensor size or the f-stop which would really help with low light performance.
But then I'm spoiled by the awesome cameras in my Nokia Symbian smartphones and their huge sensors and xenon flashes.

Well that sucks. Hopefully the dev alpha devices are sporting a cheaper camera than the official release one :/

**aragone79** · 12-05-2012, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Gerii

They can't do much with the camera as the hardware is set in stone. They can only do some minor software improvements but they can't change the sensor size or the f-stop which would really help with low light performance.
But then I'm spoiled by the awesome cameras in my Nokia Symbian smartphones and their huge sensors and xenon flashes.

Camera embedded at Nokia phone is one of the most high quality at smartphone

everyone admits this. However, What I see from the picture taken by London makes me impressed

Well, it's enough for me

I don't know about others

**Mister-E** · 12-10-2012, 04:18 AM

I too found that Dev Alpha devices did poorly in low light. It is just the developer and should not be considered what the final product would be. So, let's just hope they do have a better camera.

**Justthecrack** · 12-13-2012, 10:11 PM

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...-alpha-757229/

**lactose** · 12-14-2012, 12:46 PM

Maybe I missed this, but is the camera auto-focus or fixed focus ? Fixed focus would be a serious negative for me. I think the obsession with thin is dumb. Much better to have a healthy battery and camera.

**Sith_Apprentice** · 12-14-2012, 01:17 PM

it has auto focus and the Dev B camera is roughly the same as the L series (L series might be better)

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...-alpha-757229/

The cat picture is in low light with the flash

**SixStringMadness** · 12-14-2012, 01:22 PM

Knowing a few things about image capturing, I'll say expecting great (especially low light) images out of cell phone cameras is like powering a saturn 5 rocket with a honda turbo charged, nitrous injecting 4 banger. Pointless

But for the sake of argument, a CMOS imager and 6400+ ISO will help put the low light curve in your favor. But jamming 10+ MP worth of pixels on a teenie tiny little image sensor (CCD or CMOS) pushes that curve back in the other direction. A nice piece of glass will also help, but then again, we're talking cell phone camera.

I will say, for the love of god, don't give us the fixed focus that we have on the 9930. At least give us an auto focus......

**Sith_Apprentice** · 12-14-2012, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by ericdude

Knowing a few things about image capturing, I'll say expecting great (especially low light) images out of cell phone cameras is like powering a saturn 5 rocket with a honda turbo charged, nitrous injecting 4 banger. Pointless

But for the sake of argument, a CMOS imager and 6400+ ISO will help put the low light curve in your favor. But jamming 10+ MP worth of pixels on a teenie tiny little image sensor (CCD or CMOS) pushes that curve back in the other direction. A nice piece of glass will also help, but then again, we're talking cell phone camera.

I will say, for the love of god, don't give us the fixed focus that we have on the 9930. At least give us an auto focus......

Please see my post above yours for examples haha

**SixStringMadness** · 12-14-2012, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice

Please see my post above yours for examples haha

I saw the pictures, they are decent looking. The cat picture is impressive for how well its handling the blacks. Its handling of shadows in the woods however leaves something to be desired, IMHO .....

**Sith_Apprentice** · 12-14-2012, 02:35 PM

I agree but there is no editing done of that and bb10 will include basic editing.

**BenChin** · 12-14-2012, 08:27 PM

BB's camera always being attacked by iphone n samsung user... i really do hope that BB10 camera can show it is compatible with them...

**eve6er69** · 12-14-2012, 11:23 PM

Maybe its because the site killed the resolution but is that sunset pic choppy?

Hard to tell. I'm using the tapatalk app so I'm not sure if it is me or the camera.

Sent from my game boy color

**eve6er69** · 12-14-2012, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by BenChin

BB's camera always being attacked by iphone n samsung user... i really do hope that BB10 camera can show it is compatible with them...

Only as of recent. Remember the iphone didn't even have a flash or the ability to send a pic message till the iphone4

Sent from my game boy color

**mikeo007** · 12-16-2012, 09:39 AM

Does the camera have any HDR features? A few of those shots linked above are just begging for HDR.

**bigbmc26** · 12-16-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by eve6er69

Only as of recent. Remember the iphone didn't even have a flash or the ability to send a pic message till the iphone4

People have short memories...

**BlackBerry Guy** · 12-16-2012, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by center77

Maybe I missed this, but is the camera auto-focus or fixed focus ? Fixed focus would be a serious negative for me. I think the obsession with thin is dumb. Much better to have a healthy battery and camera.

I don't think they're going to make that mistake again...