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TheB123 likes this.07-22-14 03:43 PMLike 1 - 07-23-14 03:24 AMLike 0
- People usually dont prefer Chinese phones because they do not get Android updates and should go obsolete in less than a year.
I need a phone that will be supported with new software updates. Moto G got Kit Kat, and Motorolla has promised Android L update as well for it.
Similarly, Z10 should also get the 10.3.1 once the ugly passport is out.
Oppo and one plus have the option of using a custom cyanogen built rom, officially supported. That offers even better updates.
Out of the reputable android manufactures from China, Huawei is the only one that's a little slow at updates.
Ok next topic : stl100-1
Main issue is the fact it uses a texas instruments chipset. Texas instruments has exited the business. Phones are not like windows pc's where you just install a new os. BlackBerry literally has no one to get tech support from when tailoring the update to its chipset. This is another reason why Z10 support will be ending soon as the stl100-1 is a little bit of a lead ball around the Z10 family's legs. If they release for other variants only, there will be a lot of dissatisfied customers...TheB123 likes this.07-23-14 03:45 AMLike 1 - Can you be more specific? We have one of the newer ones at work and it's pretty sharp actually, IMOafhstingray likes this.07-23-14 06:00 AMLike 1
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Yet claim people say BlackBerry sucks because they haven't used BlackBerry 10.
Pathetic really. I've seen posts about how chinese hardware is flimsy, never updated bla bla. Clearly not true across the board.kbill1984 and Berry_Pink like this.07-23-14 06:05 AMLike 2 -
I'm using mine for two weeks now, and it was an flawless experience. Yes, yesterday my battery gauge went a bit offset, by some 10% down, but I "restarted" it easily during night by simply removing battery, and it's perfectly fine again. I think it went offset, because I charged my Z10 via PC USB slot the day before.
Nevermind, everything is great again.
The moral of the story:
If you can't find any model other than 100-1, just go for it. It's not a disaster that reading CB pages will make you think it is.
Posted via Berry the Black07-24-14 02:15 AMLike 0 - Wow, where have you been living? Under the rocks?! Before you speak another word, have a look at Xiaomi Mi4.
Posted via CB10afhstingray likes this.07-24-14 02:42 AMLike 1 -
Proof: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/art...?device=mobile
Call me a fear-mongerer if you want. That's why I'd stick to a BlackBerry.
Posted via CB1007-24-14 03:01 AMLike 0 -
The Z10 has a single core GPU and a dual core CPU, so that one is just three cores.
Lots of people are saying the Z30 is muuuch quicker than the Z10, probable that its because it can apply 6 cores to the job instead of the three the Z10 has.
Yes the battery is also huge compared to the Z10.
Yes the speakers are also huge compared to the Z10.
Yes the screen is also bigger.
Yes there are many more things about the Z30 hardware that people seem to be missing out not knowing.
... I'm comfortable with the maths thanks.07-24-14 06:33 AMLike 0 - It's not about performance that I'm concerned about. It's about security. At least in China, where consumer electronics are concerned, you wouldn't want to buy computers or phones inside that country because it's likely to have devices and means for "monitoring" its citizens. Companies based in China are forced to comply in order to do business. No matter how flashy the company or how Apple-esque the phone or how sharp, as you say.
Proof: German security firm: Chinese-made smartphone comes preloaded with spy software - Winnipeg Free Press
Call me a fear-mongerer if you want. That's why I'd stick to a BlackBerry.
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OMG..... john Chen is chinese?!?!!! he must be a SPYYYYYYYYkbill1984 likes this.07-24-14 06:35 AMLike 1 - This.
I'm using mine for two weeks now, and it was an flawless experience. Yes, yesterday my battery gauge went a bit offset, by some 10% down, but I "restarted" it easily during night by simply removing battery, and it's perfectly fine again. I think it went offset, because I charged my Z10 via PC USB slot the day before.
Nevermind, everything is great again.
The moral of the story:
If you can't find any model other than 100-1, just go for it. It's not a disaster that reading CB pages will make you think it is.
Posted via Berry the Black07-24-14 10:04 AMLike 0 - It's not about performance that I'm concerned about. It's about security. At least in China, where consumer electronics are concerned, you wouldn't want to buy computers or phones inside that country because it's likely to have devices and means for "monitoring" its citizens. Companies based in China are forced to comply in order to do business. No matter how flashy the company or how Apple-esque the phone or how sharp, as you say.
Proof: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/art...?device=mobile
Call me a fear-mongerer if you want. That's why I'd stick to a BlackBerry.
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Posted via CB10kbill1984 likes this.07-24-14 11:16 AMLike 1 - Lmao someone needs a tin foil hat! Did you read about how NSA put spyware on iPhone? I hope you don't use "convenience" features like Google, carrier services etc. And stay home 24/7, because everything you do is monitored regardless you use a BlackBerry or not.
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What I'm trying to say is that a BlackBerry would be better over a Xiaomi. And I own a BlackBerry.
You see, in the USA and the western speaking world there is what is called the rule of law.
In the China, the state and the Chinese Communist Party are one and same. It's all about maintaining power of the Party through these means. I was trying to convey to the OP that just don't even consider owning a phone from a Chinese company. Just don't, no matter what reasons are.
People just don't take care and READ between the lines. Sheesh.
Posted via CB1007-24-14 05:32 PMLike 0 - I've owned motorola products in the past to my regret. Would never touch one again. Ever. So z10 or motorola? No question z10. Basically it comes down to what you want. If you love apps, are married to google or ios, then you won't be happy. If you just want messaging, some critical apps (some not all), and security is high on your list, then BlackBerry z10 is for you. Be aware that your experience with battery life on a z10 is a crap shoot. Some are good (1day and a 1/2) to poor (>1 day). Seems to depend on the handset. I own two z10's and am happy with both.
Posted via CB1007-24-14 05:43 PMLike 0 - I've owned motorola products in the past to my regret. Would never touch one again. Ever. So z10 or motorola? No question z10. Basically it comes down to what you want. If you love apps, are married to google or ios, then you won't be happy. If you just want messaging, some critical apps (some not all), and security is high on your list, then BlackBerry z10 is for you. Be aware that your experience with battery life on a z10 is a crap shoot. Some are good (1day and a 1/2) to poor (>1 day). Seems to depend on the handset. I own two z10's and am happy with both.
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Why would you have two z10s?07-25-14 06:44 AMLike 0 -
But because of the issues with the chipset the entire Z10 series will only receive minor updates after 10.3 according to my sources.07-25-14 07:52 AMLike 0 - The Z30 has a GPU that is quad-core; Adreno 320. The CPU is dual core; Snapdragon. So that is six cores in total right?
The Z10 has a single core GPU and a dual core CPU, so that one is just three cores.
Lots of people are saying the Z30 is muuuch quicker than the Z10, probable that its because it can apply 6 cores to the job instead of the three the Z10 has.
Yes the battery is also huge compared to the Z10.
Yes the speakers are also huge compared to the Z10.
Yes the screen is also bigger.
Yes there are many more things about the Z30 hardware that people seem to be missing out not knowing.
... I'm comfortable with the maths thanks.
Who gives a **** about the speakers. Both are good for navigation prompts and conference calling. GPU performance? I'm sorry, but you do realise almost all games perform identically on all the BlackBerry 10 devices right? Because the market sbhare is so small they optimise for the lowest common denominator, without wasting time on optimising for each low volume device. So you may have those extra cores but no difference in real life.
The only thing I agree with is battery.07-25-14 07:58 AMLike 0 - Well, I can either buy a new STL 100-1 or get a used Z30 at the same price. Really confused for now. :/07-25-14 08:47 AMLike 0
- I just came from an Android powerhouse: Sony Xperia Z1.
Just last year it was arguably the premier Android device in terms of specs, however there is just one issue...
...it runs Android.
Android is great for customization, yet I always find that new Android features are gimmicky and rarely work as advertised, and the OS fragmentation takes away from the experience. Too many steps to get something accomplished, and you have to download an app for everything.
Even something simple like group texting can have issues on certain Android phones.
Ultimately this just gets down to which OS you prefer.
I want to like Android, I really do. I try every couple years...but I always run for the hills once that fresh "brand new" feeling wears off and I realize it is the same Android it has always been, just with some new red lip stick.
Android is the hot European woman you meet at a nightclub uptown. Gorgeous, long legs; grabs your attention. Then after awhile you discover that she is carrying around WAY to much baggage from the past, and that quite frankly, she looks down at you and thinks you are inferior because you are American...well, I'll stop there, you get the picture.
Basically Android isn't as great as it sounds.
I desire an OS that makes things easier, is consistent, and allows the technology to get out of the way so I can get things done.
So far, BlackBerry 10 seems like that home I have been looking for.
Hope this has been of some assistance.
Posted via CB10TheB123 likes this.07-25-14 08:48 AMLike 1 - ..hot European woman you meet at a nightclub uptown. Gorgeous, long legs; grabs your attention. Then after awhile you discover that she is carrying around WAY to much baggage from the past, and that quite frankly, she looks down at you and thinks you are inferior because you are American...well, I'll stop there, you get the picture.
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Posted via CB10TheB123 and JamesAndrewBurris like this.07-25-14 12:04 PMLike 2 - I just came from an Android powerhouse: Sony Xperia Z1.
Just last year it was arguably the premier Android device in terms of specs, however there is just one issue...
...it runs Android.
Android is great for customization, yet I always find that new Android features are gimmicky and rarely work as advertised.
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The best point you made is that it really comes down to OS preference. The Moto G ROM is very close to vanilla Android, which I think is great. I like BB10, but I prefer the customization, apps, and features of Android. The only BB10 app that I wish I could have on Android is The Last Weather App.
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