Blackberry Z10 : STL100-1 VS STL100-2 (video compare)

**Billy-X** · 03-17-2013, 10:52 PM

hello guys
i've 2 version of z10 and like to share a video compare for you guys

here's the video (sorry for shaky camera)

STL100-1 3G White
STL100-2 4G LTE Black
Both using latest firmware (10.0.10.82 for stl100-1 & 10.0.10.90 for stl100-2)

Specs:
STL100-1 = Texas Instruments OMAP 4470 (SoC) which has a dual-core CPU running at 1.5 GHz and a PowerVR SGX 544 GPU

STL100-2 = Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Plus (SoC) which has a dual-core CPU running at 1.5GHz, and a Adreno 225 GPU

some pics:

have a different backside

just for fun, OREO

ps: sorry for my bad english

**Cap_172R** · 03-17-2013, 11:47 PM

Great post here, this should hopefully help alot of those out there asking about the differences in the -1 and -2 devices. Although they use two different chipsets, in reality it's hard to actually see the difference in performance (which alot of people were debating recently)

**mafzm** · 03-18-2013, 12:18 AM

Wow...never knew the spec are that different. T_T

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**nfsw** · 03-18-2013, 12:51 AM

Thanks for this video comparison. Very noticable difference in CPU speed !!

Have you used wifi for browsing ??

In India, we get only STL100-1 I guess...

**MattUK** · 03-18-2013, 01:13 AM

The early seed units where also -1 and can be identified by their IEMI number range

**ttpimpin** · 03-18-2013, 01:36 AM

lol good comparison.. but i have a -1 with the s4 processor.. but just to be sure, can u post a pic of the legal info for both phones? mines says "qualcomm powered" so i'm wondering what the other type will say

**BB_Bmore** · 03-18-2013, 01:46 AM

Will say "Qualcomm Powered"

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**Billy-X** · 03-18-2013, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by nfsw

Thanks for this video comparison. Very noticable difference in CPU speed !!

Have you used wifi for browsing ??

In India, we get only STL100-1 I guess...

Yes I'm using same wifi ^^. I notice stl100-2 render faster than stl100-1

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**Billy-X** · 03-18-2013, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by ttpimpin

lol good comparison.. but i have a -1 with the s4 processor.. but just to be sure, can u post a pic of the legal info for both phones? mines says "qualcomm powered" so i'm wondering what the other type will say

All stl100-1 is ti omap, not s4 sir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_Z10

Because s4 is for lte
You can check setting & mobile network
See, is there a 4g or not? if your z10 doesn't have 4g thats mean your z10 cpu is ti omap

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**Daveensannie** · 03-18-2013, 06:05 AM

The black is much faster with launching apps ? strange

**lindstrom** · 03-18-2013, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Billy-X

All stl100-1 is ti omap, not s4 sir

BlackBerry Z10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Because s4 is for lte
You can check setting & mobile network
See, is there a 4g or not? if your z10 doesn't have 4g thats mean your z10 cpu is ti omap

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Not quite...

Some carriers call their HSPA networks 4G, and use the STL100-1 .. so the selections of radio bands does not say what type of device you have...

**koolpep** · 03-18-2013, 06:29 AM

If you have a stl100-1 you have the ti omap chipset. The legal text has nothing to do with it.

Sorry guys (I have the stl100-2 as well)

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**koolpep** · 03-18-2013, 06:31 AM

@lindstrom

Well if he would have said LTE then his statement would be correct. ;-)

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**Silverfern** · 03-18-2013, 06:44 AM

Wind calls its hspa+ network 4g while the speed is about 2mb per second most of the time, slower than 3G

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**schmeat** · 03-18-2013, 06:46 AM

I have the -3, does that use the s4 processor?

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**lindstrom** · 03-18-2013, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by koolpep

@lindstrom

Well if he would have said LTE then his statement would be correct. ;-)

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yes and no - you never know what the different carriers choose to have as text for the different radio bands...

The only way to really tell - is to see if you have a stl100-1 or not... , and that is just as easy as to find the radios...

**koolpep** · 03-18-2013, 07:27 AM

Touch

You are right.

Schmeat only the stl100-1 has the ti omap so you have the s4 plus :-)

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**koolpep** · 03-18-2013, 07:28 AM

Oh I mistyped earlier I have the -1

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**vulfadli** · 03-18-2013, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by lindstrom

Not quite...

Some carriers call their HSPA networks 4G, and use the STL100-1 .. so the selections of radio bands does not say what type of device you have...

I have a stl100-2 and have both 3g and 4G network and even when I'm on 3g only (manually set) I can get hspa what does that mean?

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**lindstrom** · 03-18-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by vulfadli

I have a stl100-2 and have both 3g and 4G network and even when I'm on 3g only (manually set) I can get hspa what does that mean?

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The whole "4G" thing is a huge mess - and whomever decided to start using the word should be fired - or shipped out to some distant planet on a one-way-ticket.

Different carriers use "4G" differently...

"4G" is NOT a defined standard - but a hype word invented by marketing people - who try to fool the public.

Carriers who only have GSM, WCDMA and HSPA - tends to use "4G" for their HSPA service,
other carriers choose to use 4G for their LTE service - and H/H+ for their HSPA service...
some do it correct - and don't use "4G" at all - but instead let the user Know if H+, or LTE is used,
some carriers will make your phone show "4G" for HSPA, and "4G LTE" for LTE - which is still wrong - but at least a little bit better...

LTE is not available everywhere - HSPA seems to be better distributed at the moment - so some users will only get a LTE service when in a bigger city, and H+ while at home...

on top of that, - LTE and HSPA are only a dataservice, and when doing voice calls - you will most likely see the service drop to use GSM/2G/3G service - and again - depending on the carriers branding in the OS - you will see different names for it... but in your radio set-up, you should always make sure to have 2G service enabled together with your HSPA or LTE service - NOT locking your device to LTE only..... - sometimes it will work - but you can also experience that incoming calls does not go through if you do...

**ttpimpin** · 03-18-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Billy-X

All stl100-1 is ti omap, not s4 sir

BlackBerry Z10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Because s4 is for lte
You can check setting & mobile network
See, is there a 4g or not? if your z10 doesn't have 4g thats mean your z10 cpu is ti omap

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actually my z10 says 4g.. and i was doing the same tests in timing with your video and the games launched, and loaded the same time as the -2 phone.

**koolpep** · 03-18-2013, 11:11 AM

You have the -2 phone then. Take a screen shot of the settings page where your model number is mentioned. The About page. Many thanks.

**ttpimpin** · 03-18-2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by koolpep

You have the -2 phone then. Take a screen shot of the settings page where your model number is mentioned. The About page. Many thanks.

Here u go..

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**lindstrom** · 03-18-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by ttpimpin

actually my z10 says 4g.. and i was doing the same tests in timing with your video and the games launched, and loaded the same time as the -2 phone.

TSTT is even weirder than most...

they call their HSPA+ "4G"... and STE100-1 is a very good HSPA machine...

but even weirder - is that they group it as "2G", "4G+3G" ... their 4G is in reality 3G .. so what is it they call 3G ? - old "Edge"?

"TSTT 4G - but not really 4G" :-)

Remember - TSTT does not cover the whole of Trinidad (or Tobago) with their HSPA network... therefore you MUST have "2G" enabled to avoid missing incoming calls - or to get busy network trying to call out. - They also have some issues with "jumping" between HSPA and GSM - so expect drop outs until they manage to smooth out the net.

**koolpep** · 03-18-2013, 01:04 PM

Ok so your providers 4G is not LTE. We established that.

Now what are the results from www.speed-battle.com

If you could go there with your browser and let us know?

Cheers,
K

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