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    Hey wanted to say, look, BB Link does the migration quite well.

    It brings over most important things, including password, and I have all my local calanedar, tasks and memos [which are put in reminders], SMS dating to Jan 2011 on here, old call logs!
    But be nice to have more control, like "select data" check boxes, but it was pretty painless!

    Quote Originally Posted by lnichols View Post
    - Make switching from a BBOS to BB10 device more user friendly. I should be able to connect my Bold 9900 to BlackBerry Link software and have a switch device wizard that will migrate over my calendars, contacts, SMS, BBM, and phone logs in an easy step. Huge omission IMHO and see people trying to do workarounds on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty12 View Post
    I know not directed to me, but I haven't seen these BlackBerry-like features added to my PlayBooks after waiting almost two years. I'm not holding my breath on BB10. I hope to be pleasantly surprised for U.S. release.
    I think the reason the Playbook didn't get updates in a timely manner was because they didn't really care about the PB and had to focus on getting BB10 ready so now that BB10 has been released I think they will start to address some of the issues with the PB but do remember the phone will be their bread and butter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty12 View Post
    Note I said if multiple email selection isn't "made easier"... I didn't say there isn't multiple email selection. On the 9810 you can touch the first message in a list you want selected and then touch the last and it selects all in between - all very easy. Even easier with the touchpad but I won't get into that. On BB10 you have to touch each individual message you want included in the multiple selection.
    I know, I just said all that, except I never did say you said other than what you said. I was replying to someone else. ;-) Also, I'm tired and medicated lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whyareallthegoodnamestaken View Post
    I know, I just said all that, except I never did say you said other than what you said. I was replying to someone else. ;-) Also, I'm tired and medicated lol


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    My fault. I meant to say "Easier multiple e-mail selection", and instead it came out "the multiple e-mail selection." Thanks for clearing up the delay question I had also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizMiMi02 View Post
    My fault. I meant to say "Easier multiple e-mail selection", and instead it came out "the multiple e-mail selection." Thanks for clearing up the delay question I had also.
    XD no worries


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whyareallthegoodnamestaken View Post
    I know, I just said all that, except I never did say you said other than what you said. I was replying to someone else. ;-) Also, I'm tired and medicated lol


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    np. I'd like to be medicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buwee View Post
    I think the reason the Playbook didn't get updates in a timely manner was because they didn't really care about the PB and had to focus on getting BB10 ready so now that BB10 has been released I think they will start to address some of the issues with the PB but do remember the phone will be their bread and butter.
    I have to agree with this. Once BB committed to BB10 why would they spend resources on the Playbook if they were planning to bring BB10 over ? I hope that they are working hard to address some of these gaps/issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by mount.zed View Post
    I have to agree with this. Once BB committed to BB10 why would they spend resources on the Playbook if they were planning to bring BB10 over ? I hope that they are working hard to address some of these gaps/issues
    One thing the PlayBook taught us was that we shouldn't buy anything with the "promise" or "hope" of future features. If you like what it has at launch, great, get it. If you don't, wait until it does, or get something that has what you need.

    In my case, I'm hoping the wait for the U.S. release (note I didn't say "delay") will hopefully mean these gaps will be filled. If not, I'll either continue to use my 9810 until the 10 gives me features/functions I don't have - but need - that the 9810 doesn't give me. Or, if something is glaringly absent, I'll look to another platform. The beauty of consumer choice. I will give BB first crack though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubizmo View Post
    What's the evidence for this?
    No evidence needed to some degree. Just human nature. Meaning -- once the QNX and TAT folks started running the show you can bet to at least some degree the desire to bring over elements of the old feature set was ignored or given lower priority than needed. That is all a guess of course.
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    In the latest CrackBerry podcast review of the Z10, Kevin explicitly mentions both the inability to create new custom profiles as well as the ability to set the ringer volume only for the complete profile and not make exceptions for individual apps/contacts within the profile. He goes on to mention that he notified a contact at RIM BlackBerry about this issue. He said that they are very receptive to bugs and issues submitted back to them. This should and most likely will be fixed.

    I'm glad to hear about the ability to migrate from prior OSs to BB10 via Link. This has been in the back of my head for quite a while. I'm glad it has been addressed.

    The beauty of the new OS is the ability for BlackBerry to deliver updates easily. This makes being an early adopter a much easier decision since the hardware will remain the same and it will be the software that updates. The progression of the Playbook's OS is what is making this possible. My Playbooks today look nothing like they did when I first got them. This will be the same with the BB10 phones.

    Finally, people talk about a delay. Technically, there is no delay. It's more of a surpise. A while back, Thor outlined the roadmap indicating that the launch would be followed by a European release followed by a Canadian release then followed by a US release. The phones and software are in a state in which they are deliverable. I truly believe that the holdup has to do with carrier committment to these new phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southlander View Post
    No evidence needed to some degree. Just human nature. Meaning -- once the QNX and TAT folks started running the show you can bet to at least some degree the desire to bring over elements of the old feature set was ignored or given lower priority than needed. That is all a guess of course.
    Since the OS was built from the ground up, I think the issue was getting major 'required' functionality up and running first and then follow with all of the nice to have features. Nothing is being migrated. It's all being created from scratch. I also don't think it's a matter of priority. Some features require simple additions while others rely on other components to be complete, in place, and tested before they can be extended. The issue with bedside mode is probably a good example of this. They first needed to have the ability to have the phone's 'profiles' work when selected. Once this is in place, they can extend the functionality to create granularity at the app and contact level. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm simply suggesting a different possible scenario.
    Why is it that when your contract commitment is up, the phone you always wanted is now old and the phone you now want won't be out until the next quarter? - Checkout Planet Loser on Channel C003DAB77

    Curve 8330 4.5.0.131 -> Bold 9650 6.0.0.706 --> Qued 10 - Plus not one but two totally awesome (albeit extinct) kickin' Playbooks
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    Quote Originally Posted by louzer View Post
    Since the OS was built from the ground up, I think the issue was getting major 'required' functionality up and running first and then follow with all of the nice to have features. Nothing is being migrated. It's all being created from scratch. I also don't think it's a matter of priority. Some features require simple additions while others rely on other components to be complete, in place, and tested before they can be extended. The issue with bedside mode is probably a good example of this. They first needed to have the ability to have the phone's 'profiles' work when selected. Once this is in place, they can extend the functionality to create granularity at the app and contact level. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm simply suggesting a different possible scenario.
    so PERHAPS we could eventually get the level of customization with notifications that we had in bbos again?
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    FIX THE CAMERA! The pictures I have taken on the z10 are so disappointing. Of course they looked OK (not great) when I was in full light outdoors, but besides that, they were worse than my 9900.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louzer View Post
    Since the OS was built from the ground up, I think the issue was getting major 'required' functionality up and running first and then follow with all of the nice to have features. Nothing is being migrated. It's all being created from scratch. I also don't think it's a matter of priority. Some features require simple additions while others rely on other components to be complete, in place, and tested before they can be extended. The issue with bedside mode is probably a good example of this. They first needed to have the ability to have the phone's 'profiles' work when selected. Once this is in place, they can extend the functionality to create granularity at the app and contact level. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm simply suggesting a different possible scenario.
    I don't exclude anything. and of course it is likely multiple factors that play into why features x y and z are missing. I just think there had to be some friction between the old rim guard and the new folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddlax22 View Post
    so PERHAPS we could eventually get the level of customization with notifications that we had in bbos again?
    It sounded to me like the issues with profiles and notifications had been relayed back to BlackBerry (still getting used to saying that) and that it was on their todo list.

    I highly recommend people listen to the Z10 review podcast. It's kind of free-form and all over the place, but they said it was 2:00am when they recorded it. It's about an hour and they deal with just about every aspect of the Z10 that you'd want.
    Why is it that when your contract commitment is up, the phone you always wanted is now old and the phone you now want won't be out until the next quarter? - Checkout Planet Loser on Channel C003DAB77

    Curve 8330 4.5.0.131 -> Bold 9650 6.0.0.706 --> Qued 10 - Plus not one but two totally awesome (albeit extinct) kickin' Playbooks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulct View Post
    FIX THE CAMERA! The pictures I have taken on the z10 are so disappointing. Of course they looked OK (not great) when I was in full light outdoors, but besides that, they were worse than my 9900.
    Did you attend the launch event? Do you have sample pics you have taken with the Z10? I'd love to see them.
    Why is it that when your contract commitment is up, the phone you always wanted is now old and the phone you now want won't be out until the next quarter? - Checkout Planet Loser on Channel C003DAB77

    Curve 8330 4.5.0.131 -> Bold 9650 6.0.0.706 --> Qued 10 - Plus not one but two totally awesome (albeit extinct) kickin' Playbooks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulct View Post
    FIX THE CAMERA! The pictures I have taken on the z10 are so disappointing. Of course they looked OK (not great) when I was in full light outdoors, but besides that, they were worse than my 9900.
    You should check out the "Pictures I took with my Z10" thread. There are some Great Pics in there and lots of debate going on about why there's so much criticism about the camera when truly those pics they show in that thread are Not disappointing at all. You probably aren't doing the settings right or aren't getting the clarity of using all the features as some have said that if you know the features you'll see differences between the bad pics and the good pics. Trust me, These pics you Have to see for yourself and wonder "hmm ok what am I doing wrong?"

    There are a Lot of posts in there but there are some great looking pics.
    I wait for the future...to COME back to BlackBerry!
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    I know bb is aware of these things and most likely going to fix them. This post didn't really need to be put up but it is and a good amount of people are aware. But I'm sure we'll be taken care of by then
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    irony is all the best stuff from BBOS seems to have been left out,,, you can move ahead/forward & still keep the stuff from that past that's great to have,,, you don't have to abandon it entirely,,, that kind of thinking gives me a bad feeling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWARRIOR View Post
    irony is all the best stuff from BBOS seems to have been left out,,, you can move ahead/forward & still keep the stuff from that past that's great to have,,, you don't have to abandon it entirely,,, that kind of thinking gives me a bad feeling...
    Exactly. If they weren't going to make this a BlackBerry, and everything that makes a BlackBerry a BlackBerry, then they could have saved themselves a lot of time and went Android. Also I won't give them a pass because this is a new OS. Android and iPhone were first phones, RIM has a ton of time and experience more than either and just switching to a new OS doesn't give them a pass for missing basic BlackBerry features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty12 View Post
    He means kill all notifications EXCEPT phone calls from specific people. For example when traveling, you want to be able to sleep when you check into your hotel at 2 am, but if your wife/husband has an emergency at home, you want that call to ring.
    Cant the be overridden by how you set up your contact alerts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuietRioter View Post
    Cant the be overridden by how you set up your contact alerts?
    No, the profile overrides the contact setting (from what's been reported on other threads).
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    Totally agree louzer - my engineering team recently had to introduce a new, highly complex software for a real-time control application, to replace our legacy (fully-featured, thoroughly debugged and bulletproof but clunky - sound familiar?!) system we'd had in the market for nearly 15 years.

    Notwithstanding the huge benefits of moving to modern development tools and processes, we had to make some tough calls when it came to what went into the v1.0 release and what was delayed.

    Our power-users (often doing very specialist, niche work) largely confirmed to us they'd prefer to wait til a v1.x or 2.0 release as they knew they were in the minority, and could manage a few more months with the "old warhorse" system, plus would have a more thoroughly debugged initial delivery.

    As a wise gent (Thunderbuck) earlier said "Zero Day releases ain't for everyone"....or to trawl up another ancient truism...."You can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but never all the people all the time". Especially when your resource situation is tight....which I suspect might have been the case the past couple of years at RIM/BB...

    All that said, I can truly appreciate how pent-up frustration and expectation in the user community can contribute to some of the outbursts and dummy-spitting we've seen on here since 30th Jan ;-)

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    I'm in the UK and I got my Z10 at the beginning of this month (February). My quick review: beautiful handset, but flawed.

    My longer review...

    a) the battery life is DREADFUL. I am a light user, have NFC, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth turned off most of the time, I do all the powersaving things - and I get around 8 hours from a full charge.
    b) there are no customisable notification profiles - you have Normal/Phone Calls Only/Vibrate Only/Silent/All Alerts Off. On my 9800 I created "Loud" and "Quiet" also;
    c) apart from using the Z10 as a touchpad and sharing files and internet connection, there is no cross-functionality with Blackberry Bridge. I can no longer access my phones emails, BBM, texts, notes or calendars using Blackberry Bridge. I fail to understand why this inspired cross-link functionality has been removed;
    d) Blackberry Desktop Software has been replaced with Blackberry Link. There is no longer an option to sync calendars/contacts/tasks with Outlook. Why on Earth RIM/Blackberry has taken this off is beyond me.
    e) as others have noted: previously, if I needed to select a list of emails at ones, it was a piece of cake. Now it is convoluted;
    f) there is STILL no option to customise the LED and now there is no *working* app to do this;
    g) the majority of the apps I have tried don't work well, if at all. Indeed they feel rushed, as if RIM/Blackberry have encouraged developers to push as many apps out as possible regardless of quality.
    h) overall I handset and the software feels rushed.

    For these reasons, though mainly for the dreadful battery life, I've today reluctantly returned the Z10 to my retailer for a refund.

    I'm not sure why the Z10 was released in the UK before the US, but I wonder if it was a form of extended beta-testing. I sincerely hope that Blackberry learn from the feedback and sort these things out before the handset is launched in the US or there will be many more disappointed Blackberry die-hards like myself.
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