- 02-26-13, 11:46 AM #26
- 02-26-13, 11:48 AM #27
- 02-26-13, 11:58 AM #28
This is their flagship. Everyone knew that the price would be more than the 9900. Don't forget that the INR has fallen steeply against the USD. We paid $750 for the 9900 too. But since then INR plummeted. The phone is not that much more expensive, it's just the rupee has lost its value.
Also you know very well that the cheaper OS10 devices will be launching later this year. BB is going for the top line right now. They will take care of the bottom line later. Their rebuilding wasn't going to be done in a few months. It's at least a two year climb out if it happens. But no one can keep moaning about something being priced at more than what they are willing or able to pay. It is what it is.
- 02-26-13, 12:00 PM #31
As for "After that I would be interested in the OP's so called analysis" - well, if you are not interested, feel free to ignore this thread or not comment on OP's opinion.
- 02-26-13, 12:04 PM #32
Related to the topic of this thread. It seems to me that the while the Z10/Q10 will likely stop the bleeding in the "premium" markets (US, GB, Canada), they will not do much or may even have a negative effect for the "budget" markets (India, Africa, China). It will be interesting to see after a few months what the net effect is going to be.
- 02-26-13, 12:06 PM #33
- 02-26-13, 12:09 PM #34
I did not move past your post because at no point did I indicate that I was NOT interested in the topic. You on the other hand 1) were condescending towards OP and 2) stated that "After that I would be interested in the OP's so called analysis". To which I responded, feel free to not comment, if you are not interested.
Blakberry honestly did not have a choice in releasing the Z10 as the first phone. If they had released a mid range phone first and the performance was in the least bit laggy...well... imagine the field day the tech blogs would have had...
It is definitely a phone that can compete.
But the weakness BB faces in emerging markets is that the Bold 9900 is not their representative phone for the masses. The representative phones are phones like the Curve 8520. Which is where my comment on differentiation comes along.
- 02-26-13, 12:19 PM #36
So, maybe, their strategy is to create desire by launching a premium-priced product (Z10). Lots of rich folks will buy it (% wise there might not be as many rich people in India, but due to sheer size of 1 Billion + population, there are still numerically significant number of people in India who can afford Z10 at $800 or even higher). This will create desire among a lot of people who could not afford Z10 and prime them for a lower-priced version of Z10 (let's call it Z5 for argument sake). This Z5 could be curve-equivalent of Z10.
Similar to how they sell tons of Curves in budget markets, while also selling not-insignificant number of Bold devices.
- 02-26-13, 12:20 PM #37
Where are the Z10 ads? Most of those who are making fun of Blackberry on twitter don't even know it is not the same curve and storm that is being priced at 43k but with them being a joke all day yesterday and today, I am not sure whether the beating the image took will ever fully recover.
No doubt it is what it is and that is the problem. Less buyers = less sales = less apps = playbook. At least the Q10 will have the keypad if not the apps.
- 02-26-13, 12:27 PM #40
Most of those who are making fun of Blackberry on twitter don't even know it is not the same curve and storm that is being priced at 43k but with them being a joke all day yesterday and today, I am not sure whether the beating the image took will ever fully recover.
- 02-26-13, 12:29 PM #41
- 02-26-13, 12:33 PM #42
So, if I understood him correctly:
For each form factor, they will have two price-variants (premium and mid-range, like Bold and Curve).
- 02-26-13, 12:54 PM #45
On the other hand, if they were hoping to aggressively Z10 in India, they are unlikely to succeed. At $800, Z10 is not budget friendly even for US/Canada, let alone budget markets like India, Africa.
- 02-26-13, 01:02 PM #46
That's the point though, the z10 isn't designed to be a "budget" friendly device at all. It's a premium device, and is priced that way. The reality thought, is that the average Canadian/American/European can afford a "premium" device if they really want one, whereas in India it doesn't necessarily work that way. That's just the reality of developing nations. The budget friendly "curve" variant will be a much better fit then the z10 ever could be in India. Also, the price in India is very marginally more expensive then in Canada. Here we pay 649-699 + tax (~13% depending on the province), which works out to $730 - $791, so if it's available in India for around $800 & considering it's an import, it's essentially the same price.
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- 02-26-13, 01:08 PM #47
"BlackBerry bad bad strategy"
To think the marketers are sitting in Waterloo or Bombay having caviars and these so called "Critics" are whining about th pricing.
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