- 02-10-13, 08:22 PM #151
So.... to keep using my unlimited data plan and not changing not only do I have to buy my phone outright but I have to buy it from someone other than Bell. Well..... I hate Bell..... but all other plans are complete rubbish out there currently, 1GB of data MAX for what I'm paying right now from any carrier and that's the barebones plan as well. Owell, for unlimited I am going to jump through ever hoop I need to.
- 02-11-13, 10:54 AM #153
Z10 APN cannot be changed on Bell...locked phone or unlocked, put the Bell SIM in, and it automatically populates as blackberry.net, and if you don't have BIS you don't have mobile data.
More interesting news from Blackberry Technical Support:
BlackBerry Z10- Customer wants to know if he will need a BIS plan for a BlackBerry 10..
Advised the customer that he needs a BIS plan for his BlackBerry 10 device
Would really like to get a Z10, but can't give up my unlimited data...\
- 02-12-13, 12:00 AM #155
No. I will not accept this. I will not be bullied by Bell. This is unacceptable, the only carrier to require this. I need to find ways to combat this before I receive my Z10.
Bell be warned. I am coming for you. I will fight you tooth and nail to keep my current plan and if I cannot, if I lose.... well if I do have to change my plan there's always Rogers and Telus.
- CrackBerry User
02-12-13, 03:37 AM #157
- 69 Posts
This is interesting. Although I'm not someone who switches sim over to different phones, I have gotten a Z10 on an existing blackberry social plan which only includes social networking in terms of the data. I've talked to Bell but haven't made any changes to my plan as of yet. I thought that my data would not work without wifi on my current plan but it turns out today that it is in fact working like regular data and not just social networking. I am looking forward to following up with bell to see if I'm being charged per MB use on the data and if not I might just stick to my current social plan for 40$. When I tried using the data, I just reloaded fb and twitter but was surprised that any Web page would also load. When using it without wifi I get a "H" and the blackberry data symbol beside it so I'm not entirely sure of what that means however.
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- CrackBerry Abuser
02-12-13, 08:07 AM #159
- 208 Posts
I am also on Bell and have an old unlimited BB data plan for $30/month. No one in the stores have been able to tell me if I upgrade whether or not I can keep my existing plan. They only way to guarantee it is to buy the phone outright. It is a corporate plan so I'm going through a 3rd party service provider Worldlynx Wireless and when ordering the phone on 3 yr contract for $139.95 it gave the option to select Keep Existing Data Plan. I ordered on Thursday February 7th and haven't heard a thing other than an initial email saying your order has been received and will be processed shortly. Originally there was a pending charge on my credit card (online statement) but that seems to have disappeared. Hoping I don't have to shell out the $649.95 that Bell wants. I'd buy from Koodo for $550 and get it unlocked.
- 02-12-13, 09:38 AM #160
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02-12-13, 11:16 AM #163
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- 02-12-13, 11:18 AM #164
- 02-12-13, 12:52 PM #166
Re: Bell BlackBerry Z10 on Smartphone data plan not working
Bell thinks your data will be restricted to social by service books at the NOC. They don't watch your data usage because they think it's impossible . I hope that they stay dumb to it. *You lucky bastid*
- 02-12-13, 01:26 PM #169
- CrackBerry Addict
02-12-13, 01:46 PM #170
- 590 Posts
Has anyone called Blackberry's own support and confirmed what Bell is saying? I mean get it straight from the horses mouth, and then go back to bell?
My take is that Bell is well within their rights to do what they are doing. It is there decision if they want to charge more for whatever they want. However blaming Blackberry and saying that BIS is needed for the Z10 to work properly is devious at best, and all all out lie in reality. I'm sure Bell wouldn't be happy if Blackberry said something like "Our new Z10 had an MSRP of $200 but Bell requires special features to work on their network so we had to price it higher for all providers", and that's essentially the same thing.
- CrackBerry Newbie
02-12-13, 06:54 PM #173
- 1 Posts
I've had the same problem as you chriswong11, but when I renewed my contract with Bell, they changed my smartphone data into bb data. After reading about it as well, I asked Bell to switch it back and they did. My Z10's data then didn't work and I talked to their Network Service department to figure out what the deal is. They said that there are two options with the Z10: I can either have a blackberry phone plan and then the smartphone data plan will work or if I have a regular phone plan (or a corporate plan in my case that cannot be changed to a BB phone plan) I then have to use BB data. I don't fully understand that, but I guess it has to do with BB network. So that's the deal and I'm back on BB data. Bell was great at changing everything, but that was a very complicated experience. I'm lucky that I love the phone!
- 02-12-13, 09:51 PM #174
I havent talked to tech support or retentions yet but every Bell rep I have spoken to has said that it is currently impossible to keep using my plan if I get a Z10. I brought up the argument that this seems to be a Bell only requirement and neither Rogers nor Telus have it, they responded saying that I would not get LTE on the Rogers or Telus networks, I rebuked that knowing it to be false. They quoted something about data provisioning and being able to spread my data across devices which seems extremely irrelevant to me.
As the date of my Z10 draws nearer I will make more inquiries, but as it stands, if I am being forced into a BB only plan on Bell I will jump ship no questions asked.
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