- 02-03-2013, 01:12 PM #28
ColorID came out the evening of the launch.
If you have ever used an Android, the learning curve is minimal. A day or two.
If you have never used anything except a keyboard based BlackBerry, I'd say 3-5 days max.
And there are actually good video demos on BlackBerry.com
And please, everyone, stop blasting anyone who isn't in love with their new Z10. Once you get one, you can make up your own mind. Posting about things you do and don't like is very important for a new device.
I realise that everyone has different needs/aims. And yes I suppose that I could get used to the OS if I spent more time. But to use what Apps? Frankly after the PB launch, where I bought one, waited months for the software update to do basic stuff like emails in portrait (I think was an issue from memory) and it arrived with gaping functional holes still, I simply don't trust RIM/BlackBerry to fix BB10 in an acceptable timescale.
And I dont have to.
I have iOS (which yes is a bit boring) and Android which can be a bit unstable from time to time - but for most of the time they do 100% what I need. BB10 can't do 50% of what I need at the moment. And I don't need the security of the BB platform. Who cares if someone can find out what I order from the supermarket - if I was in store they'd know anyway.
Given that this is BlackBerry's last chance, I would have expected them to make very sure that it would fly and strongly. And they have been unable to do this. There will be more tears when this hits you guys in the US - count on it!
- 02-03-2013, 01:17 PM #30
- 02-03-2013, 01:18 PM #31
when software is sold in mass amounts and are new to market bugs should always be expected, its inevitableno matter how much alpha/beta tests you do its just going to happen. why else do you think all software that is released will require updates even a game like World of Warcraft that has millions of users still has patches released every few weeks to fix bugs on new expansion packs
- 02-03-2013, 01:20 PM #32
- CrackBerry Genius
02-03-2013, 01:21 PM #33
- 1,627 Posts
The OP type of posts are becoming very tedious..... How about researching your purchase first..... would have read it is a more complex guesters, some name apps not available and finally there willl be bugs.... if you are not willing to take the time to learn new things then you will never learn anything... Seems a day with a phone is hardly enought time to make a valid appraisal.....no one said the learning curve was easy....... when I bought my first Vic 20 I sat there and looked for the A key for 5 minutes...following the OP line of thinking I would never use a computer as it is too complicated for the average user...... as for apps... time for people to grow up a bit... This is where it strays into trolling is the App complaint... really... I gusess that Microsoft should have never released WP8 smarphone as it does not have a couple of the apps you may use...So I guess if you buy an Iphone and someting does not come out for it you will dump your phone.... it may not work for you but what is the point of trashing the company.... I sometimes wonder if a number of these supposed "sending back" posts really have the phone in the first place... expect trolling to be rampant in the next couple of months... so I mark this one as "ignore"....
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-03-2013, 01:30 PM #34
- 210 Posts
Apps aside, the rest of your comments make no sense to me what so ever.
the gestures are simplicity itself, moving about from app to app is as simple as it could be, unlike an iphone where youre pressing buttons, swiping dipping in then out of apps back to the apps and then theres the notification drag down and lets not even talk about searching dipping into emails then getting back to search again.
screen is anything but dim, I have had to turn it down.
'well documented omissions' ...? this is the first version of BB10, how can you expect there to be all the previous legacy features in a new platform? for me it does all the must haves. it does them in a new, simple and effective way. more complexity will come and its likely that given a few weeks you'll see updates or apps to plug the bespoke point features you say you need.
As for apps, the platform is a few days old, major releases to come in coming days/weeks just as with other platforms they will come. what did android have at launch? ....
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-03-2013, 01:36 PM #35
- 395 Posts
Sure, I can accept that there are going to be pros and cons for just about anything, the Z10 included. One thing that really stuck in my craw, though, was when the opie called BB10 "HOPELESSLY COMPLICATED". Is it really really, truly "hopelessly complicated" or is the OP, Dlanod, a hopeless simpleton? Goodbye opie and good riddance... NEXT!
- 02-03-2013, 01:40 PM #36
Re: Another Z10 going back I'm afraid....
The Op is right. The lack of apps is what keeps me from getting one as well. There are absolutely no apps I use right now on android that I can use on bb10. Maybe one: Dropbox. And if I'm to spend $200 and get into a two year agreement I better get something I can use for two years. Just to get a blackberry to support them when in turn I get nothing is not on my to do list.The panda has spoken!
- CrackBerry Addict
02-03-2013, 01:42 PM #37
- 594 Posts
Well I'm in the US and as soon as May comes around its mine. All the negative comments are to me not convincingly genuine, I'm not saying all but some seem to be suspicious to say the least. I buy and like BlackBerry because I like it and nothing and no one can make me follow the crowd just because it's the popular thing to do. With that said those who come here with troll like, agenda suspected comments should expect to get bit in the a§§. Just not by me.
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-03-2013, 01:42 PM #38
- 332 Posts
- the tail on the donkey....
I'm beginning to think that the folks with these threads about returning their Z10 serve no constructive purpose, as these people have obviously not used a BlackBerry in several years and seem to have their mindset geared toward expecting BlackBerry to be on the same level as Android and iPhone is at currently. This is the FIRST device of a completely new BlackBerry product line and even the first iPhones and Android devices had their issues as well.
- 02-03-2013, 01:42 PM #39
Another Z10 going back I'm afraid....
I'm afraid it will be difficult for any manufacturer to fully please a client with a crop of the latest smartphones in his possession. Trying to combine the best features from every platform into one device is a surefire way to get sued from now until (Superbowl) Sunday! whoo hoo!
Sent from my BlackBerry 9790 using TapatalkZ10
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-03-2013, 01:43 PM #40
- 170 Posts
Yellow/gray whites and faint colours unless held directly under a light, where the sensor then lets that 100% screen setting actually look good. It's so annoying it cannot be disabled. And worse the it seems inconsistent with other owners devices.
- 02-03-2013, 01:44 PM #41Acer Asprie S755-6832, Playbook, Samsung SII HD LTE, HTC One v
- CrackBerry Newbie
02-03-2013, 01:46 PM #42
- 4 Posts
What happened to your loyalty? I'm sure they'll do what they can. Address the problem and give them the opportunity to fix it.
Do you trade in your life-partner when you find a few issues?
Patience is a virtue! Take it easy!
- 02-03-2013, 01:47 PM #43
why do we need for every single "going-back-user" an own thread???
Just open one with the headline "Why i am going back" and post your stuff there....
- CrackBerry User
02-03-2013, 01:49 PM #45
- 73 Posts
I agree with you a 100% as I got my device last and have been testing it out. I myself am a loyal BB enthusiast and understand when people defend the device, however once you actually USE the device then you will know what DIanod is talking about.
As a seasons smartphone user and a sales rep that sells and promotes them, I can see a lot of people buying and then returning the device.
Here is my thoughts:
- Yes the apps are that bad! don't believe the 70,000, get the device in your hands and see for yourself.
- The OS itself has a lot of confusing options to navigate around, again get the device first and you will see
- File back up is a pain. Blackberry protect doesn't copy over any content you saved, BlackBerry Link seems to copy only what it wants too and using the SD method is similar. I had to use Bluetooth to copy contacts and it took forever! just for 300 contacts, literally thought I was using a pay go nokia.
I'm not saying don't buy the device. The OS has many nice features to it and the hardware itself is beautiful, however a lot of key things are missing and per mentioned and it will be hard for existing smartphone owners to lose a lot of the features they are us to using. Someone coming from a non smart phone may not notice the difference. There is no reason why BB fans should have waited this long for a new device only to have less features then the old ones.
You ever been criticized for using a BB because it has no apps? well BB10 apps are even worst! when you guys get your hands on an actually device it will be hard not to agree with this original post. You will ask yourself what the **** where the app relation guys even doing all this time???!?!??!. For the average BB user's day to day 5 to 10 apps on avg I'm estimating you may have only 1 to 2 of them available on BB10.
Again keep in mind this is my honest view as a BlackBerry fan and user for over 5 years, I also promote the device actively as a sales rep. I also put large portion of my personal savings aka my tuition fund into RIM stocks. I'm quite concerned and hope this "new" BlackBerry company is more agile then the old and deals with these issues fast, otherwise Q1 and Q2 will be a disaster with negative reviews from both the press and users.
Again I don't want to sound to harsh but don't give us guys being honest a hard time. Get the device in your hands use it first if you want to disagree. I'm tempted to go back to my 9900 so I can use my BIS email account, Bloomberg, Whatsapp, Touch chat, and enjoy my custom alerts etc etc etc. $350 for the device on a 2 yr agreement, and I cannot use any of the mentioned features.
ONE SUPER SAD BLACKBERRY FAN
- 02-03-2013, 01:52 PM #46
Last edited by brianatbb; 02-03-2013 at 01:53 PM. Reason: grammatical fixAcer Asprie S755-6832, Playbook, Samsung SII HD LTE, HTC One v
- CrackBerry User
02-03-2013, 01:53 PM #47
- 98 Posts
I was hopping to see at least skype and netflix at launch... just they mentioned it's comming but not when... also whatsapp haven't give it a date of launch... i also was hopping to see some apps comming to BB10 like Team Viewer for example... But i guess that all the Premium apps that are most used in other platforms are just waiting to see if BBRY is going to survive the fall..... i Love my Berry... i don't wanna go to iOS or Android... but the lacking of apps is more and more and i just don't like it.... there is not much apps to have i agree... but is important to have them on board... at least the premium ones... the question is... how much time we will have to wait to see this comming...Comunidad Mexicana de Fans de BlackBerry
Solo cambiaria mi BlackBerry por otro BlackBerry!
Another Z10 going back I'm afraid....
Anyway my friend while you flick swipe peek etc. I'll check my emails and make calls. Oh and listen to music on Spotify.
- 02-03-2013, 02:04 PM #49
I love how people complain about BlackBerry not yet having all the big app names on board and saying how they should try to attract them more. Meanwhile BlackBerry furiously tries to attract all the big names probably even with cash.
EDIT: Also don't bash the guy that started the thread for hating the Z10 but instead bash him for the title of the thread. Call it Z10 review or something. It will actually be neutral that way.
- 02-03-2013, 02:09 PM #50
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