35% battery drain overnight ... what kills the battery?

**uhscale** · 02-19-2013, 04:29 AM

Hi,

i had strange battery drain tonight from 35% in 9 hours.

Iam wondered about that, because phone is normally doing nothing.
Kills the night clock the battery ?

Can some feedback me with same problem?

My iphone holds battery nearly to 95-100%. Not such draining of battery.

Alex

**belfastdispatcher** · 02-19-2013, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by uhscale

Hi,

i had strange battery drain tonight from 35% in 9 hours.

Iam wondered about that, because phone is normally doing nothing.
Kills the night clock the battery ?

Can some feedback me with same problem?

My iphone holds battery nearly to 95-100%. Not such draining of battery.

Alex

Yes, the bedside mode will use up your battery, that's really meant for use while charging.

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**Jaybles** · 02-19-2013, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by uhscale

Hi,

i had strange battery drain tonight from 35% in 9 hours.

Iam wondered about that, because phone is normally doing nothing.
Kills the night clock the battery ?

Can some feedback me with same problem?

My iphone holds battery nearly to 95-100%. Not such draining of battery.

Alex

Charge your phone overnight! Best time to do it

**H4zN** · 02-19-2013, 04:52 AM

Did you have any active frames open?

**niv78** · 02-19-2013, 06:52 AM

All your radios on over night drain the battery. If you don't need or want calls or notifications overnight put your phone in flight mode it turns off the radios you will loose 4 to 6% overnight as opposed to 15 to 20%. Android has apps called Auto on off but all they do is put your phone in flight mode at a set time. I am sure someone is working on one for the Z10. The BB10 like Android does not allow for auto on off.

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**belfastdispatcher** · 02-19-2013, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by niv78

All your radios on over night drain the battery. If you don't need or want calls or notifications overnight put your phone in flight mode it turns off the radios you will loose 4 to 6% overnight as opposed to 15 to 20%. Android has apps called Auto on off but all they do is put your phone in flight mode at a set time. I am sure someone is working on one for the Z10. The BB10 like Android does not allow for auto on off.

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Why compare that with Android? Legacy BlackBerrys had that built in, no need for apps.

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**niv78** · 02-19-2013, 08:24 AM

BBM10 has nothing like it yet.

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**belfastdispatcher** · 02-19-2013, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by niv78

BBM10 has nothing like it yet.

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But previous BlackBerry devices did, so why bring Android into it?

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**cooper_tor** · 02-19-2013, 08:47 AM

A little miffed.
Slept over at someone else house on Sunday night. Had a conference call Monday AM, so, not having my charger with me, I turned the z10 OFF to save battery.
Turned it off with 80% battery.
Monday morn, phone would NOT turn on.
Got home, plugged it in and I got a red battery indicator... battery fully discharged overnight while it was OFF!

Anyone else experience this? Does battery need to be pulled over night when stuck without a power source?

I'm not overly concerned. I know it's basically a 1.0 device
My iPhone 3gs was horrible when I got it... but one or two software patches later and it was awesome. I expect the same here...

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**belfastdispatcher** · 02-19-2013, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by cooper_tor

A little miffed.
Slept over at someone else house on Sunday night. Had a conference call Monday AM, so, not having my charger with me, I turned the z10 OFF to save battery.
Turned it off with 80% battery.
Monday morn, phone would NOT turn on.
Got home, plugged it in and I got a red battery indicator... battery fully discharged overnight while it was OFF!

Anyone else experience this? Does battery need to be pulled over night when stuck without a power source?

I'm not overly concerned. I know it's basically a 1.0 device
My iPhone 3gs was horrible when I got it... but one or two software patches later and it was awesome. I expect the same here...

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I left mine overnight with no problems, I didn't keep a close eye on the battery though but it wasn't much difference from night to morning.

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**63MM** · 02-19-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by cooper_tor

Turned it off with 80% battery.
Monday morn, phone would NOT turn on.
Got home, plugged it in and I got a red battery indicator... battery fully discharged overnight while it was OFF!

Anyone else experience this? Does battery need to be pulled over night when stuck without a power source?

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Exact same thing happened to me. I shut the phone off at night with plenty of juice and the next morning my phone wouldn't turn on. It was dead. Very frustrating.

**Josh S1** · 02-19-2013, 09:01 AM

Had one extremely bad day, battery dropped 60% in four hours
Took me a few min, and realized that a app turned on the gps
Ever since that day, average length between charges is 12-14 hours, or about the same as 9900

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**Omnitech** · 02-19-2013, 05:57 PM

What email and social media accounts do you have enabled on the device?

Continuous checking/syncing lots of accounts/mailboxes could be at least part of the problem.

**GunzRx** · 02-19-2013, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by cooper_tor

A little miffed.
Slept over at someone else house on Sunday night. Had a conference call Monday AM, so, not having my charger with me, I turned the z10 OFF to save battery.
Turned it off with 80% battery.
Monday morn, phone would NOT turn on.
Got home, plugged it in and I got a red battery indicator... battery fully discharged overnight while it was OFF!

Anyone else experience this? Does battery need to be pulled over night when stuck without a power source?

I'm not overly concerned. I know it's basically a 1.0 device
My iPhone 3gs was horrible when I got it... but one or two software patches later and it was awesome. I expect the same here...

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It's better to put it in flight mode.

I took the phone off the charger around 5am, turned wifi on 4 or 5 times, played a game for a bit (few minutes) at 95 as of 7pm.

Bb's back.

**houseane** · 02-19-2013, 06:14 PM

One night last week, I had my phone fully charged when I went to bed and it was completely dead when I woke up. Today, my phone drained completely from full to dead in two hours. When I changed from battery, it was fine up to about a half hour ago when I mistakenly opened Maps and immediately closed it.

I wonder if when you use Maps and close it, if it doesn't turn off the GPS.

Is there a way to check the GPS to see if it is running and manually turn it off?

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**Omnitech** · 02-19-2013, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by houseane

One night last week, I had my phone fully charged when I went to bed and it was completely dead when I woke up. Today, my phone drained completely from full to dead in two hours. When I changed from battery, it was fine up to about a half hour ago when I mistakenly opened Maps and immediately closed it.

I wonder if when you use Maps and close it, if it doesn't turn off the GPS.

Is there a way to check the GPS to see if it is running and manually turn it off?

Any app can be closed from the Active Frames view. See this document:

Leave an app or close an app - How To - BlackBerry Z10 Smartphone - 10.0.0

Hmm, occurred to me that perhaps you meant "GPS radio" instead of "GPS app". Lots of people say "GPS" when they really mean "Maps app".

Here's a document on how to disable the GPS manually for all apps, the actual instructions are in the first blue link:

http://docs.blackberry.com/en/smartp...4586612657.jsp

**canderson85** · 02-19-2013, 06:38 PM

Turn off allow gestures while locked

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**bobshine** · 02-19-2013, 07:33 PM

i didn't notice any unuasual battery drainage on the z10 yet. but from experience with the playbook... the biggest problem i noticed was the android player. i sideloaded many apps... and some of them are pretty unstable and even shut off would drain the battery (i guess its the android player that is still working in the background). what i noticed is that if i deleted all my side loaded app, battery on the playbook would improve a lot. on the Z10, i know that LTE is a big issue. its spotty in montreal... so it forces it to work harder. my best guess is to turn on airplane mode to save battery and get rid of side loaded apps!

**houseane** · 02-20-2013, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Omnitech

Any app can be closed from the Active Frames view. See this document:

Leave an app or close an app - How To - BlackBerry Z10 Smartphone - 10.0.0

Hmm, occurred to me that perhaps you meant "GPS radio" instead of "GPS app". Lots of people say "GPS" when they really mean "Maps app".

Here's a document on how to disable the GPS manually for all apps, the actual instructions are in the first blue link:

About location services - How To - BlackBerry Z10 Smartphone - 10.0.0

Thanks for the link. I will try using Maps tomorrow and turn off Location Services after I'm done to see if it solves the problem. I'll post the results tomorrow.

**koolpep** · 02-20-2013, 03:47 AM

Yes, I had the same issue. On my first night of using the BB, switched it off, put it to charge and when I switched it on the next morning it was 100% full. During my drive to the office the phone spontaneously rebooted and wouldn't switch on claiming a dead battery.

When I charged it in the office for 10 minutes it showed me a full battery again, WTF?

Something is seriously wrong with the Battery or how the OS reads the battery status or whatever. It's time for an update that fixes these issues.

Like my Z10 so far a lot!!

**richbayliss** · 02-20-2013, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by koolpep

Something is seriously wrong with the Battery or how the OS reads the battery status or whatever. It's time for an update that fixes these issues.

I agree. My battery will not charge to 100% - it stops at 95% probably 2 out of 3 times. Could be a bad battery, but I suspect it is more likely the software. I know BBRY are working hard on the Q10 right now, so maybe the 10.1 OS release will fix some niggles like this. Otherwise it is back to Phones4U for a new battery replacement.

**houseane** · 02-20-2013, 08:10 PM

So I ran Maps today and closed for app without rebooting to ensure the GPS radio was turned off and have 50% battery after eight hours of light use. That is not bad but it would be nice to identify what caused it to drain yesterday.

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**inked18** · 02-20-2013, 08:22 PM

I've charged and drained about 5 times now and have to say the battery life has improved considerably since day 1.

At first I thought it was the 4g lte killing it but running strong after 12 hours now under above moderate use with a little over a quarter battery left.

Loving my z10 more and more everyday!!!

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**Omnitech** · 02-20-2013, 11:22 PM

See the Crackberry article from today about Z10 chargers.

In a nutshell - if you are not using the original charger, or something with some serious power, it's possible that the device uses more power than the charger is providing, meaning plugging it into such incompatible chargers can actually result in the device being more drained after "charging" than when you connected it.

**texazzpete** · 02-21-2013, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Omnitech

See the Crackberry article from today about Z10 chargers.

In a nutshell - if you are not using the original charger, or something with some serious power, it's possible that the device uses more power than the charger is providing, meaning plugging it into such incompatible chargers can actually result in the device being more drained after "charging" than when you connected it.

That is only if you're using it HEAVILY while its being charged. No way you'll leave the phone untouched and it drains more power than is being put in.