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01-08-2009, 07:03 PM
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I'm using DM 4.7 and simply cannot get this to work.
I remove the three files to remove both sample images and sounds.
When I use crackutil to do a file listing, these files are definitely not there. Oddly enough, when I go to view the files I can see them.
Even if I do a wipe and then do a software update using DM, the files will still show up under my sample images.
What am I doing wrong? Also, I have disabled auto update and am not connected to the internet. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete6 This has gone on for far too long and confusion reigns.
The BlackBerry OS is installed via a series of .cod files. Each contains one or more other files that may be of any type. These may be a music file or a program file or, lots of them within the same cod file. Just like zip files.
JRSCCivic98 suggests removing two files net_rim_bb_medialoader_360x480_t.cod and net_rim_bb_medialoader_backgrounds_360x480_t.cod. These two files contain multiple media files that are unbundled (unzipped) on the phone. Once this has happened the unbundled files cannot be removed as they are locked by the OS because it thinks it needs them. The only way to avoid these files getting onto your phone then the two files above must be deleted BEFORE you install the OS on the phone. There are a number of ways to do this. The files are located on your PC in the C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\OS-name\Java. You need to delete the two files from the Java folder prior to OS installation. You can also use CrackMem which will find installed OSs on your phone and will MOVE the frequired files to a folder it creates called RemovedFiles. They are gone from the Java folder but may be PUT BACK if you wish. Obviously the unwanted files need to be absent from the Java folder during the OS install process. There is a possible problem if you are running Desktop Manager 4.7 and are installing an official carrier released OS and have deleted the two files. DM 4.7 will try to put these files back under the conditions described above only. It does this because it knows that the OS needs the files and it will download them. The fix is to- disconnect your PC from the internet before you start to OS upgrade.
- do not use DM 4.7
- This is from John Clark
So, you downloaded the newest, latest and greatest OS for your BlackBerry and have followed all the instructions found here. 1. Download and install Desktop Manager. 2. Download and install the OS of your choice for your device. 3. Delete vendor.xml located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader. 4. Plug in BB and open Desktop Manager. However, when you open Desktop Manager you get no prompt to update. When you open Application Loader your new OS is not listed!! This has been plaguing people for the last few months. I've never experienced the issue because of the way I've loaded Desktop Manager but Vasco at Horizon did and he and I together figured this out. I believe we've found the issue and will explain how to fix here. The problem lies in the new Desktop Manager's automatic "Check for Updates" feature. This feature uses your internet connection to look for OS updates for your device from your carrier. When it does this it loads a second virtual vendor.xml file in the temp folder on your computer (Vista users look in C:\Users\Username\appdata\virtualstore.) So, even after you delete the normal one that is installed with the OS and Desktop Manager, the automatic "check for updates" feature loads another one based on the brand of device you've got plugged into the PC. To prevent this from happening this you need to install Desktop Manager WITHOUT this Automatic Update service. Below are the steps to remove this service. 1. Go to Control Panel >Add/Remove Programs. 2. Click on "BlackBerry Desktop Software" and select "Change/Remove." 3. When prompted, hit "Next" and then you should get options for Modify, Repair, or Remove. Choose "Modify." 4. On DM 4.7 and higher, in the list of installed items, you should see "BlackBerry Automatic Update." Click the icon next to it and change it to "This feature will not be available." That should put an "X" next to "BlackBerry Automatic Update." If you are using DM 4.6 or lower and don't see this option in this list then just continue with the install and the installation will ask you a few screens later. A screen will be shown where you will be asked to check the boxes for: A) "Start BlackBerry Desktop Manager automatically each time the computer starts." B) "Create a shortcut for BlackBerry Desktop Manager on the Windows Desktop." C) "Check for software updates." Be sure number 3, "Check for software updates," is NOT checked. In summary, the two files MUST be deleted before you start the OS install process. Thee is no current way to remove the unwanted media files once they have been installed. | | 
01-11-2009, 11:52 PM
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01-12-2009, 09:41 AM
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i was wondering to clear up more memory can all the cod files for flicker and facebook be deleted too from the java folder before the os is installed
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01-12-2009, 10:17 AM
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CrackMem appears to work on build .86!!!
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01-12-2009, 02:06 PM
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Hey Pete quick question: What about the alx files that are still in the OS folder. The cods are not in java - but for instance I see VVM and wordmole alx. are still in the OS folder. Is it safe to delete them?
Also in the Java folder are the flickr and facebook help CODs. Are they safe to remove?
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01-12-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1magine Hey Pete quick question: What about the alx files that are still in the OS folder. The cods are not in java - but for instance I see VVM and wordmole alx. are still in the OS folder. Is it safe to delete them?
Also in the Java folder are the flickr and facebook help CODs. Are they safe to remove? | I know for sure, help is and so is event log. I'm wondering about setup wizard.
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01-12-2009, 02:23 PM
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Ill give it one more try when I get home
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01-12-2009, 02:28 PM
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Well I do't know about trusting someone named phone breaker - lmao. Kidding Thanks.
To confirm - IT IS SAFE to remove all the help.cod files from facebook and flikr and other aps I am deleting in the java folder.
And the flickr and facebook resource.cods?
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01-12-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by davewolfs I'm using DM 4.7 and simply cannot get this to work.
I remove the three files to remove both sample images and sounds.
When I use crackutil to do a file listing, these files are definitely not there. Oddly enough, when I go to view the files I can see them.
Even if I do a wipe and then do a software update using DM, the files will still show up under my sample images.
What am I doing wrong? Also, I have disabled auto update and am not connected to the internet. | Desktop Manager 4.7 has the ability to re-download missing files. You have to stop it doing this. There are three ways round it.
1). The best way, ditch DM 4.7 and use 4.6 wth no media manager
2). unplug your internet connection before you start the upgrade process (but you still have the buggy DM 4.7)
3). Do what John Clark outlines in my post you quited. Again you still have 4.7.
Do one of the above and the offending files will not re-appear.
The reason you cannot see the the files on you phone is that they are the BlackBerry equivalent of zip (or container) files. These files contain a number of other smaller files. It makes distribution easier. The big file is unbundled ON THE PHONE. This happens during that looong period when the phone does nothing during an OS upgrade. What ot is doing is integrating all the files it needs into the right places and unbundling these container .cod files.
Hope this is a bit clearer.
Keep asking and we will ultimately get there together. We all know little bits of the puzzle. Combining the bits into a bigger puzzle (sorry, complete picture - I meant to say) is what Crackberry is about.
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01-12-2009, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1magine Well I do't know about trusting someone named phone breaker - lmao. Kidding Thanks.
To confirm - IT IS SAFE to remove all the help.cod files from facebook and flikr and other aps I am deleting in the java folder.
And the flickr and facebook resource.cods? | fonebrkr's Ok in my book.
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01-12-2009, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 1magine Hey Pete quick question: What about the alx files that are still in the OS folder. The cods are not in java - but for instance I see VVM and wordmole alx. are still in the OS folder. Is it safe to delete them?
Also in the Java folder are the flickr and facebook help CODs. Are they safe to remove? | Not much point if CrackMem has removed the COD file. The alx tells the phone what to do. The CODs are the program files so if they are gone, then the ALX files can't do anything.
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Originally Posted by 1magine CrackMem appears to work on build .86!!! | I went through the Java folder of .86 and programmed CrackMem to remove what I thought were sensible selctions. CrackBerry member branta helps me a lot with this. Remember that CrackMem supports all BlackBerry phones so I have to keep an eye on the OSs for all the phones. I can't afford to buy one of each and I certainly don't have the time to test every single OS release. SOOOOoooo if you see something that you do not like or do not understand OR, you want a module removed, PLEASE do PM me. I try and release a new version once a month but I rely on CrackBerry members to help out with what they want in the program. I really limit what I include to file removals rather than major new features and I won't duplicate removals that DM can do. But that's it really. There's no magic about this. The program is there for you. I wrote it and I support it. It is free but I do accept beer money.
Unfortunately I also have to run my own IT repair company and occasionaly speak to Mrs. Pete6 (are you on bloody CrackBerry AGAIN!). Oh yeah, I need sleep too - a bit.
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I should say that I tend to stay out of the Storm forums because of the levels of abuse there. I hate that, and have a tendency to abuse my Mod powers and just ban people who get up my nose and this gets me in trouble with my fellow Mods as we have a procedure for this.
I will try and come here more often if you think that I can help.
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Originally Posted by Pete6 Not much point if CrackMem has removed the COD file. The alx tells the phone what to do. The CODs are the program files so if they are gone, then the ALX files can't do anything. | Got it. Can I safely remove the resource.cod files for flickr and facebook? Do I need to (that is, will they do anything with the other cods gone?)
Beer you say? I think something can be arranged...
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01-12-2009, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete6 I should say that I tend to stay out of the Storm forums because of the levels of abuse there. I hate that, and have a tendency to abuse my Mod powers and just ban people who get up my nose and this gets me in trouble with my fellow Mods as we have a procedure for this.
I will try and come here more often if you think that I can help. | I find you to be very helpful. And I understand exactly how you feel. The Storm while another BB to many of us in the corporate world, is a totally other animal to others and has a large main stream appeal. Hence the difference between 8700 and 8800 forums and the 9500/9530 forums.
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