is there any way to unlock bold to work on verizon?

Coraya · Thread Author #1 12-04-2009, 10:31 PM

I really like the form factor of the bold. The old one that is. I was wondering if this were possible. I really don't like the tour all that much. Form factor wise

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amazinglygraceless · #2 12-04-2009, 10:36 PM

Absolutely not. The Bold is a GSM device. VZW is a CDMA carrier. They are
totally incompatible.

cjcarbone · #3 12-04-2009, 10:37 PM

No the Bold is GSM only. Wheres the World Edition Verizon Blackberrys are CDMA with a SIM card slot as well

Coraya · Thread Author #4 12-04-2009, 10:42 PM

Why wasn't verizon a little smarter In this aream why are we not GSM ><

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Gawain · #5 12-05-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coraya

Why wasn't verizon a little smarter In this aream why are we not GSM ><

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With due respect to GSM and its widespread use (and apparent ease of rollout, hence its widespread use), CDMA is a far, far, far superior standard. AT&Ts network capacity problems -- directly related to GSM limitations and its inefficient use of radio spectrum.

GSM uses time and channel segments within a given spread of spectrum. It provides a tangible, quantifiable limit on use.

CDMA uses the entire spectrum, and instead of using time and channel segments, uses code instead. The only real limitation is power.

In any practical application, CDMA has between 6-8 times the capacity of GSM. From the time that Verizon and Sprint had 1XRTT standardized across the networks, rolling out EVDO/3G was a natural evolution. AT&T had no such luck migrating from TDMA to GSM, and HSPA is not a simple evolution of GPRS (GSM/EDGE).

bluzthyname · #6 12-05-2009, 07:31 AM

bold is a GSM device whereas VERIZON uses CDMA technology; GSM nad CDMA don't mix.

afropoika · #7 12-05-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawain

CDMA is a far, far, far superior standard

GSM can be used worldwide (roaming), CDMA not.
GSM supports simultaneous voice and data, CDMA not.
GSM can split SMS natively, CDMA again not.
GSM doesn't suffer from the "near-far" effect, CDMA does.
GSM is tied to a SIM, CDMA is tied to the device.

I can't see how CDMA is a superior standard to GSM. Both have their limitations, but in my opinion GSM is far better if only for the reason it can be used worldwide. The flexibility of just popping in and out a SIM is great if you change phones often. SMS is quite limited on CDMA too by using different encoding algorithms it doesn't support traditional Unicode. GSM also allows for simultaneous voice and data, which CDMA does not.

Coraya · Thread Author #8 12-05-2009, 09:01 AM

Cdma devices are now supposrting simultaneous voice and date due to the Wi-Fi capabilities on the new devices. But regardless it doesn't make any type of sense that every other phone in the verizon market can send a text message 160x7 to fellow verizon users without the splitting of messages, but does not apply to the blackberry for one reason or another. Someone care to explain that please?

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afropoika · #9 12-05-2009, 09:04 AM

@Coraya: WiFi is a separate technology anyway and can be present or off no matter which radio technology is used. Therefore it doesn't really make CDMA any better that you can WiFi and call at the same time.

Coraya · Thread Author #10 12-05-2009, 09:09 AM

I know. I'm not strictly for cdma or gsm. I would just seriously like blackberry to do the simple thing "dumbphones" can do. Its pretty ridiculous to me.

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afropoika · #11 12-05-2009, 09:12 AM

I wish for an universal network with functionality worldwide that wouldn't interfere with current radio frequencies and combined the best of both GSM and CDMA.

Coraya · Thread Author #12 12-05-2009, 09:15 AM

When it comes down to it, its not always what the consumer wants. If the profits aren't there, they won't do what we all wish they would. And not only thaat, but converting verizon to gsm would be overly expensive even for such a large company

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