[meyer1131]

the person on hofo who actually got through to the preorder said that verizon wireless site said "Pre�order shipments are estimated to begin on Monday July 13th. Dates subject to change based on volume. "

therefore it would make more sense to just go to your local verizon store on the 12th

[hcave]

i wish they had 24 hour service. i had my credit card out and everything to get my 80.00 peice of amazingness. le sigh.