Similar headphones came with my Creative mp3 player a number of years ago - useless with my shaped ears, too. I never could use them. I quickly tried the Tour ones and immediately ruled them out. Unfortunately, my Shure jack does not fit through my Otterbox case but some I purchased from Verizon for my 8830 did fit as do my Senheister noise-cancelling phones. But generally I use my Moto S9 Bluetooth - wireless is much more convenient.
I can't get any of those types of buds to stay in the ear (Apple is the worst). They should use silicone gel for the outer ring. Don't know why they continue to produce that style considering the amount of people who find them unusable. I had to buy Bose and Shure for music and The Boom for the phone.
To Quote the goddess (Kristin Cavallari) herself from the Hill's tonight,
People with small ear's lie!
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