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    Default Why 4gig Storage and not 8?

    I don't understand why the Torch is only getting 4gig storage, while the Bold and Torch 2 are getting 8???? This makes no sense. Why would you give the phone most geared towards multimedia and gaming the least amount of space for apps?
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    It is 4 gigs of memory storage.. RAM is 768mb processing memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RG25 View Post
    It is 4 gigs of memory storage.. RAM is 768mb processing memory.
    OK, my point is still the same. Why 4 gig storage and not 8? This thing should have 16 gig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    OK, my point is still the same. Why 4 gig storage and not 8? This thing should have 16 gig.
    because its not an iphone, u can slip a micro sd card into it and up it all the way to 32 gbs... so whats the point.

    only like small percentage of ppl will use that much storage, no point of inflating device price for the rest of us who will not use that much storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignites View Post
    because its not an iphone, u can slip a micro sd card into it and up it all the way to 32 gbs... so whats the point.

    only like small percentage of ppl will use that much storage, no point of inflating device price for the rest of us who will not use that much storage.
    Can you save apps to the micro sd card? If not, my point is still valid.
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    exactly, you can pop a 32gig card in and boost this bigtime.

    Apple doesn't have a 36gig IPhone do they? (4 gig onboard + 32 gig microsd)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCanuck View Post
    exactly, you can pop a 32gig card in and boost this bigtime.

    Apple doesn't have a 36gig IPhone do they? (4 gig onboard + 32 gig microsd)
    No, but they have 32 gig you can save your apps to.
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    Why 4GB? Who knows, the Torch 9810 got the 8GB jump. It's sure isn't space-saving measures; possibly cost cutting? Or they just figure 4GB is enough?

    Anyway, apps with BB have always been iffy in terms of storing vs. amount available. I remember a post somewhere around here explaining why BlackBerry stores the apps to your RAM instead of internal storage like every other phone (might have something to do with security). Point being is you can expand storage for videos/photos/documents/etc. but app storage is limited to 768MB (including OS and everything). Now I do believe apps can store data on your internal or memory card, but main application is in memory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    Can you save apps to the micro sd card? If not, my point is still valid.
    You can only save apps to the 768MB
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    Quote Originally Posted by jope28 View Post
    You can only save apps to the 768MB
    That's not right. That is the RAM, not the storage space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    That's not right. That is the RAM, not the storage space.
    You won't be able to fill up the 768MB of RAM with apps...err useful apps, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    That's not right. That is the RAM, not the storage space.
    listen to what people are telling you. blackberrys store their apps/os in the same place the ram so we are limited the 768mb that it comes with. Your point invalidated. the 4gb can be used for media and documents. then can be augmented with a micro sd card.
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    I wonder if apps for the BB will remain smaller than comparable apps for Andriod or iOS. I know my daughter and I both have the Starbucks apps on our phones. For Blackberry the app is a few hundred k in size compared to >10 Mb for her Android.

    Factors like this would make this a real apples and oranges comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    That's not right. That is the RAM, not the storage space.
    You have made your point here.

    For 95% of all the 9900 users there is more than enough memory for software on the internal memory.

    Most Blackberry users are not like iPhone users who prefer to load their device up with useless software which most is seldom or ever used. We KNOW that Apple has a lot of software but they need to go through and eliminate the junk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doniphon View Post
    I wonder if apps for the BB will remain smaller than comparable apps for Andriod or iOS. I know my daughter and I both have the Starbucks apps on our phones. For Blackberry the app is a few hundred k in size compared to >10 Mb for her Android.

    Factors like this would make this a real apples and oranges comparison.
    For better or worse they'll remain smaller for the time being. On the one hand, that's a good thing as you can fit many apps into a small space. On the opposite hand, that does limit app developers of what they can do with their applications in terms of the amount of data stored.

    I think once the QNX OS BB is released, we'll see something more in-tune with the PlayBook, iPhone, and everyone else: 16/32/64 GB flash drive for everything (apps included) with RAM separate.


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    The RAM runs the OS, the ROM (4GB) stores the OS and apps. 4GB is still a ton of storage capacity for this use. I'd suspect, as mentioned earlier, it's to keep the cost down, since the full touch screen costs more than the screens on all the 8GB models.
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    This is a massive over site. Large screen, all the websites show its media viewing...Recording HD Video...then they tell you it has 4Gb of storage?

    Wtf?

    Its just stupid, people do look at specs, tell me, what other current high end full touch device has 4Gb of storage?

    I was so hoping for a iPhone killer, this just isnt it, **** all the Android phones are coming out or already out with better specs. It should have had the same specs as the 9900, I just dont understand it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rgainsmi View Post
    This is a massive over site. Large screen, all the websites show its media viewing...Recording HD Video...then they tell you it has 4Gb of storage?

    Wtf?

    Its just stupid, people do look at specs, tell me, what other current high end full touch device has 4Gb of storage?

    I was so hoping for a iPhone killer, this just isnt it, **** all the Android phones are coming out or already out with better specs. It should have had the same specs as the 9900, I just dont understand it...

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    That's app storage, and still leaves enough GB of room for anything but a full feature film. Not positive, but my guess is you could record HD directly to the SD too, giving you a potential 32GB of memory. More than enough to make your own Blair Witch Project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rgainsmi View Post
    This is a massive over site. Large screen, all the websites show its media viewing...Recording HD Video...then they tell you it has 4Gb of storage?

    Wtf?

    Its just stupid, people do look at specs, tell me, what other current high end full touch device has 4Gb of storage?

    I was so hoping for a iPhone killer, this just isnt it, **** all the Android phones are coming out or already out with better specs. It should have had the same specs as the 9900, I just dont understand it...

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    This will be of little worry to most 9900 users. Most of us do not need to record hours of HD video or expect our device to be able too.

    You can record all the HD video you want on a 32gb memory card. Apple gives you no choice for memory cards and they HAVE to include it in the phone but look at what it costs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greggebhardt View Post
    You have made your point here.

    For 95% of all the 9900 users there is more than enough memory for software on the internal memory.

    Most Blackberry users are not like iPhone users who prefer to load their device up with useless software which most is seldom or ever used. We KNOW that Apple has a lot of software but they need to go through and eliminate the junk!

    I am not defending the iPhone, but I can't understand why you would limit your app storage to 768 meg. There are 100 meg+ iPhone apps. (games etc).

    If you want to compete with the iPhone, why would limit your app storage so badly?

    You might say well a BB app is 1 mb and the iphone is 50meg, but if you compare the apps, the iPhone app is usually MUCH better than the bb app. If you remove the issue of storage space, I don't see why BB apps cannot be as good or better than an iPhone app.

    QNX will change all of this, so maybe it is an OS7 thing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    I am not defending the iPhone, but I can't understand why you would limit your app storage to 768 meg. There are 100 meg+ iPhone apps. (games etc).

    If you want to compete with the iPhone, why would limit your app storage so badly?

    You might say well a BB app is 1 mb and the iphone is 50meg, but if you compare the apps, the iPhone app is usually MUCH better than the bb app. If you remove the issue of storage space, I don't see why BB apps cannot be as good or better than an iPhone app.

    QNX will change all of this, so maybe it is an OS7 thing....
    [b][color=#000066]Here, this should clear the memory issue up. This is my 9650, with nowhere near the storage for applications the next gen have, and almost 100 apps on it:

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadWulf View Post
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    I'm sorry... are you saying my questioning the app storage is borderline bannable and that I am not welcome here? I have a storm2 and 32gig playbook and you are telling me I am not welcome on a blackberry forum? Maybe I am misunderstanding your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post
    I'm sorry... are you saying my questioning the app storage is borderline bannable and that I am not welcome here? I have a storm2 and 32gig playbook and you are telling me I am not welcome on a blackberry forum? Maybe I am misunderstanding your post.
    Sorry, that was meant for another thread.

    You've been fine, though confused about what part of memory is for what. I think someone else got you misguided. Think of it as a PC. You have RAM that runs the software, and ROM that holds the software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadWulf View Post
    Sorry, that was meant for another thread.

    You've been fine, though confused about what part of memory is for what. I think someone else got you misguided. Think of it as a PC. You have RAM that runs the software, and ROM that holds the software.
    Thanks. Yeah, I guess I am confused. Coming from my storm 2, 768 meg ram is heavenly. Can't wait to get the new torch 9860, but I haven't seen any verizon announcements on this phone. Might be time to jump to ATT. I am tried of going to my verizon store, asking when they will have new berrys and then them trying to stick android down my throat. I don't want a freaking droid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by netviper View Post

    If you want to compete with the iPhone, why would limit your app storage so badly?

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    This is where you REALLY have it wrong. I do not wish to compete with iPhone! I have the iP4 sitting in a drawer and would MUCH prefer my 9860 or 9900.
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