Storm 3?

**EyeInStein** · 05-04-2011, 07:26 AM

So how long is RIM going to punt this down the road ? While the tablet may be all the rage for a small niche of users, the rest of us would like an updated phone. It's Wednesday and they have announced 2 new phones, gone on and one about having a tablet that plays flash and android apps - and lets Balmer brag about Win7.. Really ?

I'm up for an upgrade and would prefer not to be stuck with an OS5 phone for another 2 years - 2 generations behind current. Maybe I try the iPhone for a couple of years and check back. Flame away fanboys - I know the door won't hit me.. but it is VERY frustrating when you have a product you like and the company seems to be living in la-la land.

This reminds me of Novalogic.

**Deathcommand** · 05-04-2011, 07:29 AM

Do you mean 2 new as in 9900 and 9930?

Clam down, the new devices won't be on market for a while. I recommend waiting but if you can't then get the iPhone. no one here is stopping you.

**EyeInStein** · 05-04-2011, 07:46 AM

The title of the Thread is Storm 3. I could care less about the other 2 phones and their release dates. There are hints and rumors of the device (Storm 3) everywhere - but no mention of them at their own event.

'Clam Down ?' 'Go ahead and get an iPhone, no one is stopping you ?' Seriously ? Good answer. Thanks for the discussion.

Does anyone know if RIM is actually planning this phone's release ?

**ravenlore** · 05-04-2011, 08:39 AM

You know the "Storm 3" is the Monaco/Monza, right? That it'll be branded the BB Touch? That the Storm name is going away? Did you...read this forum at all before creating a new thread?

/cranky, need coffee

**StaticFX** · 05-04-2011, 09:21 AM

BB touch is coming (the "Storm" name has been dropped)... please read a little before posting stuff like this. If you cant wait a few months then by all means.. go iPhone or whatever. Just because you are up for an upgrade doesnt mean you MUST do it right away... I went 2 years extra once before upgrading because I didnt like anything out there.

**bobaloo** · 05-04-2011, 09:43 AM

I get what the OP is saying. He's waiting on some information on an upgrade to his Storm. Semantics aside, the OP wants a full touch screen BB, but there has been ZERO official information about it.

I'm in the same boat. I still have and love my 9530, but it's getting dated. New applications or updates to old ones are too hefty for my nearly three-year-old phone.

So, yeah, call it whatever you want, but RIM's narrow foresight sure limits the number of people anticipating new devices.

remember, people who were lured to BB by the Storm are currently left high and dry as far as upgrades. So as someone who loves all that is good about the Storm, I can understand the OP's anxiety over a full touch BB announcement.

**MeetJoeAsian** · 05-04-2011, 10:01 AM

from what I read previously, RIM was planning to introduce only the Bold touch at BBW...

**trojanscott** · 05-04-2011, 11:12 AM

I understand the OP here as well, as I'm in the same boat. Verizon + Blackberry = crap. I really did like my S2, but this phone sucks now. It's freezing up constantly, it's not fast, and it's WAY behind the times. I want a full screen smart phone that does what it should, and this doesn't any more. The monaco looks appealing, but geez, get it out already.

**Altimate_One** · 05-04-2011, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian

from what I read previously, RIM was planning to introduce only the Bold touch at BBW...

Seriously? Why? If the public isnt going to see these devices for 1-2 months then why announce them? Does this mean that the BB Touch isnt going to be out till Q4?

Why not at least update the "timeline" while they have everyone listening.

I can see the OP gripe. Its not necessarily that he wants to upgrade, its just that the S1 and S2 arent getting any love and havent for some time.

**EyeInStein** · 05-04-2011, 11:47 AM

Thank you for the updates. Just last week I did some searching on the internet for the Storm 3 and found a couple of videos with somebody playing around with one. It mentioned nothing about the name changes, so I was clueless about that. Whatever it is called, it is taking a very long time getting here. Additionally, if it is real, it will be arriving about the same time or after the iPhone5 ?

I don't know about anyone else that reads these forums, but I don't have the time or inclination to hunt down every piece of news and/or feel like waiting on a phone. That would also include the time to reboot while it crashes once or twice a day - and the sluggish recovery going from app to app. When you are working for the machine, you are in the wrong relationship. The machine works for you.

I love my BB, but we ain't exactly married with children..

**Stides** · 05-04-2011, 12:32 PM

I think they definitely have to get the Monaco aka Touch out as soon as possible. Verizon has already EOL'd the Storm 2 and Bold 9650. I believe they are only selling them as long as supplies last. That means that when supplies run out VZW will only be selling the Curve 9330. That is a horrid selection for RIM. Hopefully this means that the Bold Touch and the Monaco are coming out soon. RIM needs this devices released before full touch screen fans are lured away by the iphone 5 and droid bionic/targa releases this fall.

**jelp2** · 05-04-2011, 12:46 PM

Storm3, Monaco, Monza,BB Touch....... doesn't matter what you call it, it's no where in sight!

**EnergyPlus** · 05-04-2011, 04:16 PM

I get the gist of what the OP is saying and personally, "name/schname" I could care less it is called the "BB Touch," the "Storm 3" or "BB Elephant" for that matter. I have had both Storms since release day. For the record, my 2 still works perfectly, if it didn't, I wouldn't have kept it. Yeah, I traded it in when the sticking key issue first emerged, but the replacement is a gem and I don't have any problems.

That being said, I too am sick of hearing about the Playbook. It's almost as though RIM has forgotten what got them to where they are in the first place. For the first time, I've caught my eyes roaming at the Thunderbolt, the X and, heaven forbid, the i4. I would very much appreciate a faster device, a much faster browser, more memory and improved screen display (not to mention all the other rumored bells and whistles), but please, let us see SOMETHING!

**bobaloo** · 05-04-2011, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by EyeInStein

I don't know about anyone else that reads these forums, but I don't have the time or inclination to hunt down every piece of news and/or feel like waiting on a phone. That would also include the time to reboot while it crashes once or twice a day - and the sluggish recovery going from app to app. When you are working for the machine, you are in the wrong relationship. The machine works for you.

I love my BB, but we ain't exactly married with children..

I can help you with this. Leave a post here or PM me and I'd be happy to walk you through getting things up to snuff on that Stormy of yours again.

**tumer** · 05-04-2011, 07:01 PM

i have been a rim fan for a very long time but i must say i am very disapointed if that this phone hasnt been announced yet like reall the storm 2 was released alm ost 2 years ago wow nothing eversince i am still on the storm1 and in november it will be 3 years . 3years from the first touch screen attempt and we still can get an announcement of the progress they have made of there full touch phones at there biggest event of the year wow, then the devcon registration is released what is that mean now there going to drag and tease us till october im sorry but this is really starting to get upsetting.

**dredewten85** · 05-04-2011, 09:39 PM

I saw on a website that it was rumored to come june 29th but to t-mobile

**EyeInStein** · 05-07-2011, 01:44 PM

I gave up on BB this week - at least for the time being. Supposed to have, might have and could have aren't getting the job done now. I can't explain the feeling that 'there is nothing like a Blackberry '. I also admit an addictive attachment to my Storm2. However, the promises the BB people are offering tomorrow are already being delivered by other phones today. IMHO, opportunities to proceed as 'normal' are being missed as a result of misplaced loyalties to 'the brand' and nostalgia. At this point, the business relationship we had appears abusive.

I do miss the sure press and the keyboard layout - but the click was on the way out anyway. I miss the light notifier (but do I really need it?). Most of all, I really miss my BerryWeather since nothing - and I mean nothing - even comes close to it in the iTunes Store. I didn't really use BB messenger - so that is the extent of my losses. Sad.

On the bright side... I still have push - but can now read a whole email (with pics). I don't need an addon to have a usable google reader experience. I can take a decent picture - and edit them with 10 apps that I got for the price of 1 BB app. I can surf the web. I can find decent free apps. The list will go on as I use this phone, I'm sure.

I honestly believe other phone manufacturers simply need to offer counseling services for addicted BB users - and a decent BB messenger alternative. I'm now beginning to realize that BB phones - and the software that comes with them (I've had a few of them) aren't 'all that' in today's market. By the time the snappier 'current' processors arrive in the 'new and improved' BB's - with that new awesome browser they've been promising for the last 2 years - the competition will be offering the next generation.

Put your pride down, lift your heads up, and look around and don't let them abuse you.

**starmburst1** · 05-08-2011, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by EyeInStein

I gave up on BB this week - at least for the time being. Supposed to have, might have and could have aren't getting the job done now. I can't explain the feeling that 'there is nothing like a Blackberry '. I also admit an addictive attachment to my Storm2. However, the promises the BB people are offering tomorrow are already being delivered by other phones today. IMHO, opportunities to proceed as 'normal' are being missed as a result of misplaced loyalties to 'the brand' and nostalgia. At this point, the business relationship we had appears abusive.

I do miss the sure press and the keyboard layout - but the click was on the way out anyway. I miss the light notifier (but do I really need it?). Most of all, I really miss my BerryWeather since nothing - and I mean nothing - even comes close to it in the iTunes Store. I didn't really use BB messenger - so that is the extent of my losses. Sad.

On the bright side... I still have push - but can now read a whole email (with pics). I don't need an addon to have a usable google reader experience. I can take a decent picture - and edit them with 10 apps that I got for the price of 1 BB app. I can surf the web. I can find decent free apps. The list will go on as I use this phone, I'm sure.

I honestly believe other phone manufacturers simply need to offer counseling services for addicted BB users - and a decent BB messenger alternative. I'm now beginning to realize that BB phones - and the software that comes with them (I've had a few of them) aren't 'all that' in today's market. By the time the snappier 'current' processors arrive in the 'new and improved' BB's - with that new awesome browser they've been promising for the last 2 years - the competition will be offering the next generation.

Put your pride down, lift your heads up, and look around and don't let them abuse you.

There is a BBM replacement....its called live profile...free...look it up...

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

**haris163** · 05-08-2011, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by EyeInStein

I gave up on BB this week - at least for the time being. Supposed to have, might have and could have aren't getting the job done now. I can't explain the feeling that 'there is nothing like a Blackberry '. I also admit an addictive attachment to my Storm2. However, the promises the BB people are offering tomorrow are already being delivered by other phones today. IMHO, opportunities to proceed as 'normal' are being missed as a result of misplaced loyalties to 'the brand' and nostalgia. At this point, the business relationship we had appears abusive.

I feel the same way, my deadline to RIM is the iPhone 5. If the iPhone 5 is out and not the BB Touch, I am definitely going iPhone or Android. I love my Storm 1 and I want to get an upgraded version of it, but the gap between my phone and the current non BB phones is getting wider every day. I do not expect the phone to be the best on everything, but it must have reasonable specs compared to the competition.

**DanD2** · 05-09-2011, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by haris163

I feel the same way, my deadline to RIM is the iPhone 5. If the iPhone 5 is out and not the BB Touch, I am definitely going iPhone or Android. I love my Storm 1 and I want to get an upgraded version of it, but the gap between my phone and the current non BB phones is getting wider every day. I do not expect the phone to be the best on everything, but it must have reasonable specs compared to the competition.

Ditto!!!!!!!

**1magine** · 05-09-2011, 09:42 AM

Honnestly - I don't see how anybody not locked into a BES enviroment sticks with RIM. If I wasn't required by the terms of my employment to carry a BB - I would have gone Android 2 years ago.

**maevinj** · 05-09-2011, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by 1magine

Honnestly - I don't see how anybody not locked into a BES enviroment sticks with RIM. If I wasn't required by the terms of my employment to carry a BB - I would have gone Android 2 years ago.

I'm the exact same. I HAVE to have a BB. I hate it more and more everyday...

**1magine** · 05-09-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by maevinj

I'm the exact same. I HAVE to have a BB. I hate it more and more everyday...

It's funny. So many on these pages and in the analysts world think the greatest threat to RIM is the growing consumerization of smart phones. I think it is much like politics, the greatest danger comes from the base. BES users dissatisfaction with RIM is extraordinarily high. The internal pressure within companies to abandon the enterprise infrastructure has been growing for some time.

As was noted in 1999, we are in the age of information. He who has the data wins. Being able to access and manipulate data quickly away from the office has genuine advantages. Devices that can not quickly access data (read slow throughput), manipulate data or worse are unable to handle large amounts of data or routinely fail in the field have real world consequences.

I had hoped that RIM would become the Phoenix, similar to ATI's extraordinary comeback. The latest internal leaks, show the S3 coming around November.

**maevinj** · 05-09-2011, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by 1magine

It's funny. So many on these pages and in the analysts world think the greatest threat to RIM is the growing consumerization of smart phones. I think it is much like politics, the greatest danger comes from the base. BES users dissatisfaction with RIM is extraordinarily high. The internal pressure within companies to abandon the enterprise infrastructure has been growing for some time.

As was noted in 1999, we are in the age of information. He who has the data wins. Being able to access and manipulate data quickly away from the office has genuine advantages. Devices that can not quickly access data (read slow throughput), manipulate data or worse are unable to handle large amounts of data or routinely fail in the field have real world consequences.

I had hoped that RIM would become the Phoenix, similar to ATI's extraordinary comeback. The latest internal leaks, show the S3 coming around November.

Completely agree. Sucks the S3 isn't coming until November