[gjcavana]

The 7.1 devices are ok. But they do not compare, even in a strictly communication device to others. I have had more than a half dozen BBs and this is the best so far. That said, applications are important. They are important to most smart phone users (heck, many would question why bother with a smart phone w/o applications) They are important to BB users as well. VERY IMPORTANT TO BB USERS. Look at the Playbook forums for insight. Most of the discussion surrounds applications. Were you around when the Android player was first hacked and available? The explosion in those forums was almost unprecedented. People trying to figure out how to side load and what worked.

It's not just youtube. It is banking applications. Sport applications NHL Mobile, NBA Mobile. News applications NPR, Nat Geo. Its home security applications. Really the list goes on and on. Honestly, successful business people expect allot from their devices, that is why RIM is building BB10. That is why when they had an oppurtunity to build the Playbook, RIM SCRAPPED THE BB OS IN FAVOR OF QNX. Why doesn't that tell you everything you need to know? They (RIM) told you what they thought about their OS more than a year ago. Smart people might have read between the lines.

I use a lot of those and/or similar apps on my BB also. All I'm saying is that if I had no faith in RIM or found nothing but fault in past devices with no faith in upcoming devices I would look at another brand instead of trying to convince other happy users that they are wrong in liking what they have. All I'm saying....Have a great day

[Joltcola1234]

I use a lot of those and/or similar apps on my BB also. All I'm saying is that if I had no faith in RIM or found nothing but fault in past devices with no faith in upcoming devices I would look at another brand instead of trying to convince other happy users that they are wrong in liking what they have. All I'm saying....Have a great day

I couldn't agree more. The simple fact is, if you are unhappy with the device you have and have no faith that going forward a company is going to provide what you are looking for, you need to explore another options.


1magine says: "there are a great many that share my frustration with BlackBerry", I'm sure there are, there are also a great many that are perfectly happy with BlackBerry. I'm sure most of the "great many" with your outlook also had the common sense to move on as well and stop punishing themselves and others.

Also, pointing out my post count and join date is just juvenile. It's really irrelevant, but as a point of reference, this is not the only account I've got on this website, I joined CrackBerry years ago.

[mkdenver]

please got a sound problem using the music player can someone help me

Sent from my BlackBerry 9860 using Tapatalk

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

I was having GPS lock (worked fine initially, but ended up with aGPS) issues in .342 and when I loaded .402, the GPS lock was fast and accurate. Now, I've seem to run into the same problems as before. The GPS would stop locking my coordinates and rely on aGPS. It seems to fix itself when I do a battery pull, but the problem would come back with in a few minutes.

Literally, I start up GoogleMaps (after a battery pull), within seconds I get a solid GPS lock (options->device->location settings gives me 9 satellites being picked up) with a 10m radius accuracy. Within minutes, my GPS lock in GoogleMaps gets lost and then my accuracy goes to a 1500m radius. This happened being outdoors.

Even when I go to Options->Device->Location settings to "Refresh Location", it can't get any satellite lock at all.

Any ideas?

Other than this re-occuring problem, .402 works quite well for me.

[1magine]

please got a sound problem using the music player can someone help me

Sent from my BlackBerry 9860 using Tapatalk

First do a forum search there is a whole thread or two ort more on this, including in the 9850/9860 forum.

Next pull your battery. Nothing else you can do.

[1magine]

I was having GPS lock (worked fine initially, but ended up with aGPS) issues in .342 and when I loaded .402, the GPS lock was fast and accurate. Now, I've seem to run into the same problems as before. The GPS would stop locking my coordinates and rely on aGPS. It seems to fix itself when I do a battery pull, but the problem would come back with in a few minutes.

Literally, I start up GoogleMaps (after a battery pull), within seconds I get a solid GPS lock (options->device->location settings gives me 9 satellites being picked up) with a 10m radius accuracy. Within minutes, my GPS lock in GoogleMaps gets lost and then my accuracy goes to a 1500m radius. This happened being outdoors.

Even when I go to Options->Device->Location settings to "Refresh Location", it can't get any satellite lock at all.

Any ideas?

Other than this re-occuring problem, .402 works quite well for me.

This is a .402 issue. I believe I reported on page 1 or 2. Nothing you can do. I think its worse than .341/.342. I also think the wifi and definately the radio antennaes are not as good. I'm really surprised more people aren't reporting these issues. Though there are so few 9850/9860 users left. I remember the days when there was a leaked OS for any device and the findings and fixes thread would balloon to 16 pages in the first few hours.

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

Appreciate the feedback. I'm not sure if it's related to the weakness of the GPS antennae or perhaps something with that's application related. I'm no engineer, so most likely, I'll never know.

I probably would have to do a clean wipe and install each app on its own one at a time, use it for a few days, and see what app would be the culprit, but man, that would take forever. By the time I'm through, a new leak would probably be out.

And you're right, it's unfortunate how there are less and less Torch 9860/9850 users. I think it's a terrific phone, aside with these nagging issues.

They should just concentrate on two phones. A keyboard BB and a touch screen BB. Forget everything else. Apple's success just relies on one phone.

And also, they don't need to hire people to write a release on so many different phones, that just creates more problems than it would solve.

[Joltcola1234]

I was having GPS lock (worked fine initially, but ended up with aGPS) issues in .342 and when I loaded .402, the GPS lock was fast and accurate. Now, I've seem to run into the same problems as before. The GPS would stop locking my coordinates and rely on aGPS. It seems to fix itself when I do a battery pull, but the problem would come back with in a few minutes.

Literally, I start up GoogleMaps (after a battery pull), within seconds I get a solid GPS lock (options->device->location settings gives me 9 satellites being picked up) with a 10m radius accuracy. Within minutes, my GPS lock in GoogleMaps gets lost and then my accuracy goes to a 1500m radius. This happened being outdoors.

Even when I go to Options->Device->Location settings to "Refresh Location", it can't get any satellite lock at all.

Any ideas?

Other than this re-occuring problem, .402 works quite well for me.

I've noticed the opposite of you, usually when I open up GPS (google maps) it will first lock in with a 1500m or so radius and take a few minutes sometimes to actually lock into me where I get the 10m or less accurate reading. After it locks in though I don't have any issues with it staying locked. I've actually had better results with my 9860 and GPS then I did on my 9700.

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

I've noticed the opposite of you, usually when I open up GPS (google maps) it will first lock in with a 1500m or so radius and take a few minutes sometimes to actually lock into me where I get the 10m or less accurate reading. After it locks in though I don't have any issues with it staying locked. I've actually had better results with my 9860 and GPS then I did on my 9700.

That's exactly how it worked on my 9700 and initially with my 9860. After a few software leak installs, I've run into this glitch. It locks within 10-15 seconds from a battery pull and after a minute or two, it loses the lock (all outdoors).

It's such a hard problem to replicate and I've tried to Google search an answer and it doesn't seem many others are having the same problem that I'm having, which leads me thinking it's probably a piece of software that causing conflict with the GPS. So far, I've deleted Poynt and problem is still there. I can scratch that app off the list.

[Shocktribe]

My GPS is working great, i had it turned off and when i started maps i turned it on and it locked onto me right away with no problem.

[tobiasar]

BB10 is coming~~~：O

[Patman1200]

.402 is working, and is quick...BUT
Radio and WIFI reception is down compared to .342
I get a lot of egg timers and waiting for apps to open

Going to roll it back to .342 this weekend.

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

My GPS is working great, i had it turned off and when i started maps i turned it on and it locked onto me right away with no problem.

I'll give that a try and see how it works out. It's been about 24 hrs since my last battery pull and I'm about 30mb less memory from a fresh reboot. Not bad at all. I've never had any battery issues. I've used the Device Analyzer it it's around 3%/hr.

[taluur]

I have been running .402 for about 7 days straight without doing a battery pull. I am very pleased with the stability of this release. Especially since I have yet to see the dreaded media processor error. I use the media player far more throughout the day than the phone or anything else.

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

I've actually just came across the "tinny" audio sound from the music player the other day. It seems to happen on random, but it seems to happen if I pause and resume a track or if I unplug & plug the audio adapter from the phone. Usually, it end up having to press the "stop" button and play the track from the beginning.

It's happened before in previous releases as well. Too bad, would be nice to have a device to take on the tasks of my iPod nano (4th gen, what a tank).

[jenal]

After 1 day installed, I found this device can't sync over bluetooth.

[McIrish]

I've actually just came across the "tinny" audio sound from the music player the other day. It seems to happen on random, but it seems to happen if I pause and resume a track or if I unplug & plug the audio adapter from the phone. Usually, it end up having to press the "stop" button and play the track from the beginning.

It's happened before in previous releases as well. Too bad, would be nice to have a device to take on the tasks of my iPod nano (4th gen, what a tank).

I agree. Ever since 7.1 came out I've had this problem. Very frustrating and it hard to understand how it could go unnoticed for so long by RIM. It's actually made me start looking at an Android phone. I know that sounds stupid. I've been on a Blackberry for over 10 years, but come on; how long do we wait for basic operations to work properly? I get the feeling they don't care about this device or OS7 any more and are focusing on BB10. I hope they don't lose all the users before that comes out. I for one am disappointed.

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

I'm not sure if any of you have this same quirk, but when I'm using the browser and double click a portion of the page with long rows of text, the app smartly re-runs the sentences so they fit nicely horizontally. On more than a few occasions, I would scroll around the screen and all of a sudden, the rows of text are no longer formatted to fit the width. Is it a setting or software issue?

[DaedalusIcarusHelios]

I had issues after initially installing it, but it seemed to iron out (bridge with my PlayBook being a major one). However, I've noticed some major memory leaking going on, and unresponsiveness. This has started to lead to battery pulls (reminding me of my Storm). I've also had bluetooth audio syncing issues, where after 1 song, it will often (not always) garble up songs where it jumps ahead and then back again. Sometimes instead it just speeds up or slows down playback (it skews the sound to a higher or lower key). The other day I finally got the tinny sound after pausing playback using my headphones. I need another leak. I feel like a crack addict (that's why it's crackberry, I guess).

[Frank_The_Rabbit]

If people from RIM are reading our issues, I'd also like to add one more. I'm just finding this out now as I type this. I've enabled Mobile Hotspot and downloading off newsgroups using my laptop to eat up some of my data. The download is taking a while so I leave the 9860 on its own and naturally, the display dims out and the phone goes to sleep. The bug is when i press any key on the phone, there is a lag/delay. Not just a second or two, it ranges from a 30 second to a 2 minute delay until the screen turns on again. Manually locking and unlocking the phone doesn't exhibit this bug. Just when it goes to idle on its own.

If any of you guys can recreate the bug and have found a fix, I'm all ears.