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    I have been (im)patiently awaiting an update for my AT&T Torch 9810. Does anyone know if / when AT&T will release it? I tried a 7.1 update from another carrier, but it started behaving badly after a while, so I went back to the official OS 7 from AT&T.
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    id say within the next 12 months
    ATT hates blackberry, and it isnt their priority
    BIG UP BIG UP, ITS A STICK UP STICK UP
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    Not all builds will work on a particular model. You should keep trying other builds. I have .402 from other carrier and works fine with my 9900.
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    install a leaked OS or another carriers.

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    BTW, historically AT&T is never up to date with their updates, no matter the device brand. Is up to the customer to take care of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas_vincit View Post
    BTW, historically AT&T is never up to date with their updates, no matter the device brand. Is up to the customer to take care of this.
    I'll vouch for that. And, when I had my 9800, AT&T seemed to be very good at selecting some of the worst OS versions as official for AT&T. Which really doesn't matter. If you find a good leak or another carrier's official OS, remove the vendor files, you can install it and your phone will retain all your carrier's settings while maybe getting you hotspot without a tethering plan, or better battery life, or better signal handling. Or one of the hybrids might combine the elements of several versions to get you the best of all of those.

    Any OS version is official for RIM. All an "official" status does is say that your carrier had several people of undetermined technical capability decide a particular version is good for its customers.
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    ATT will release it once they figure out exactly how to squeeze the most profit from it. extra for bridging, extra for hotspot, extra fro NFC, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgiglia View Post
    I have been (im)patiently awaiting an update for my AT&T Torch 9810. Does anyone know if / when AT&T will release it? I tried a 7.1 update from another carrier, but it started behaving badly after a while, so I went back to the official OS 7 from AT&T.
    Hi Cgiglia! I have posted on several different threads about the .378 download for Torch 9810 from Mobilicity. I too have the 9810 with AT&T (So CA) and got tired of waiting. I watched all the different threads on leaks and official OSs and after extensive back and forth conversations, I picked this download. All I can say is--It's absolutely Awesome! You can get the download from this site:

    https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/D...BBAC5CAAD7F186
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    https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/D...B9D07943D855AB

    You need to click on this link from Mobilicity and follow the instructions. Answer the questions (name, etc) click agree and the download will begin (long-like 15 -20 mins I remember), click save if its an option for install later. Once it is downloaded. Search your computer (search on start button on PC) for Vendor.xml (should be two) and delete both! Next: click on the download to install and let it do it's thing. Once installed, REBOOT your PC so the new configuration will take effect and let it install.
    Next: open DM and do a FULL BACK UP! (both Loader and DM will do this as well but never too many back ups!) Also copy the license keys if you have any so you can use if needed.

    Once the back up is done, the easiest way to install is using the DeskTop Manager. Open up DM with phone connected and click on update under device options. Click on check for updates if 7.1 bundle 1276 is not showing.
    Click on install and let DM do the rest. It will make another back up and then wipe old OS/info followed by complete restore of your info/folders and apps. If any app isn't on there once restored, go to appworld/myworld/untinstalled--and reinstall. You will have to do a reset on your email accounts--info there, just needs to be reset on setup/email account--you just click on highlighted accounts on the menu and it will do the rest.

    If you use Loader, the instructions are the same, just a few more questions. DM actually uses Loader but DM is easier for someone who just wants it done and not interested in how its done-LOL--my preference.

    Also DO A COUPLE OF BATTERY PULLS to reset the phone. You should do a couple over the next couple of days to help the new OS set in. It is an awesome download with zero issues and amazing battery life. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by go1ndr View Post
    Hi Cgiglia! I have posted on several different threads about the .378 download for Torch 9810 from Mobilicity. I too have the 9810 with AT&T (So CA) and got tired of waiting. I watched all the different threads on leaks and official OSs and after extensive back and forth conversations, I picked this download. All I can say is--It's absolutely Awesome! You can get the download from this site:

    https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/D...BBAC5CAAD7F186
    or
    https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/D...B9D07943D855AB

    You need to click on this link from Mobilicity and follow the instructions. Answer the questions (name, etc) click agree and the download will begin (long-like 15 -20 mins I remember), click save if its an option for install later. Once it is downloaded. Search your computer (search on start button on PC) for Vendor.xml (should be two) and delete both! Next: click on the download to install and let it do it's thing. Once installed, REBOOT your PC so the new configuration will take effect and let it install.
    Next: open DM and do a FULL BACK UP! (both Loader and DM will do this as well but never too many back ups!) Also copy the license keys if you have any so you can use if needed.

    Once the back up is done, the easiest way to install is using the DeskTop Manager. Open up DM with phone connected and click on update under device options. Click on check for updates if 7.1 bundle 1276 is not showing.
    Click on install and let DM do the rest. It will make another back up and then wipe old OS/info followed by complete restore of your info/folders and apps. If any app isn't on there once restored, go to appworld/myworld/untinstalled--and reinstall. You will have to do a reset on your email accounts--info there, just needs to be reset on setup/email account--you just click on highlighted accounts on the menu and it will do the rest.

    If you use Loader, the instructions are the same, just a few more questions. DM actually uses Loader but DM is easier for someone who just wants it done and not interested in how its done-LOL--my preference.

    Also DO A COUPLE OF BATTERY PULLS to reset the phone. You should do a couple over the next couple of days to help the new OS set in. It is an awesome download with zero issues and amazing battery life. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
    Note the second download link that is posted here (55AB) is directed to BB site--then click on downloads. I'd use the first one ending in "F186"
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    ATT will release it once they figure out exactly how to squeeze the most profit from it. extra for bridging, extra for hotspot, extra fro NFC, etc...
    Completely agree with above. They are penny munchers. Especially lately with the backtrack charges if you make changes to your plan. Ugh, its all about the customer...NOT.
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    Try to use other build from another carrier...
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    @all, Thank you for your comments and advice. I was surprised at how many responses I received so quickly.

    @go1ndr, Thanks for the detailed response and version recommendation. I will try the Mobilicity OS. I believe I used the T-Mobile version before and it was good for a while, but then started to behave badly.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgiglia View Post
    @all, Thank you for your comments and advice. I was surprised at how many responses I received so quickly.

    @go1ndr, Thanks for the detailed response and version recommendation. I will try the Mobilicity OS. I believe I used the T-Mobile version before and it was good for a while, but then started to behave badly.

    Cheers!
    What does "behave badly" mean? It could be from forgetting to remove one of the vendor files, it could be you got a bad download, it could be a bad install (requiring a reinstall), etc. "Behave badly" is right up there with a phone "doesn't work right" for clarity and accuracy. Before you go through a new install, what isn't working right? It might be something that's fixable without needing to do a whole new installation.
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    Is this your first ATT Blackberry? Because waiting for ATT to approve an OS accomplishes nothing. They have have released OSs that break phones and OSs that were themselves updated within days due to some fundamental flaw.
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    @kraski, in this case, "behave badly" means hanging such that a battery pull was required, hour glass for a minute or more at random times throughout the day, plus other undesirable behavior that made the device less usable.

    @palomartian, no, this is not my first rodeo with AT&T, but this update seems to be taking longer than past releases. Or, maybe I'm just getting more impatient.
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    There are probably several good reasons why.

    378 is the latest official release and media player is still problematic (as in 342). "Media device busy", non-responding, etc, irritating if you also use your bb as mp3 player. There are many posts on this.

    402 is the latest leak that seems to fix the media player but for AT&T customers, the mic is muted so people you are calling cannot hear you. See the posts on findings about 402.

    Based on my own experience, AT&T tends to be much more conservative when it comes to OS releases compared to other carriers. Still, nothing prevents you from installing OS releases from other carriers or braving the leaks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cgiglia View Post
    @kraski, in this case, "behave badly" means hanging such that a battery pull was required, hour glass for a minute or more at random times throughout the day, plus other undesirable behavior that made the device less usable.
    Which version was giving you an issue?

    I've done most of the 7.0 upgrades and all the 7.1 upgrades through one of Mecca EL's .284 hybrids. Very few issues. Except that my particular phone likes eating batteries more than I'd like. But everything works, including hotspot without a tethering plan. I don't use it much, but I want it available for those rare times when I'm not in range of usable wifi. I'm not about to give up my $30 AT&T grandfathered unlimited plan for a $50 5gig data plan....if you know what I mean. Later versions seem to lose untethered hotspot on AT&T and some have other issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljfong View Post
    There are probably several good reasons why.

    378 is the latest official release and media player is still problematic (as in 342). "Media device busy", non-responding, etc, irritating if you also use your bb as mp3 player. There are many posts on this.

    402 is the latest leak that seems to fix the media player but for AT&T customers, the mic is muted so people you are calling cannot hear you. See the posts on findings about 402.

    Based on my own experience, AT&T tends to be much more conservative when it comes to OS releases compared to other carriers. Still, nothing prevents you from installing OS releases from other carriers or braving the leaks.


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    You know lifong, I must be lucky! I have never had an issue with the media player (yet-lol) on .378. I use it to play my music mix daily at the gym and pool, etc. never an issue. Now to be fair, I haven't synced the media since I upgraded to .378, simply because I haven't had the need as I haven't added any new music, so I'll update when that time comes. Every thing else works great and I have great battery life. Odd that others would have these issues, and you are correct, I've seen a lot of threads on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas_vincit View Post
    Not all builds will work on a particular model. You should keep trying other builds. I have .402 from other carrier and works fine with my 9900.
    I have an ATT 990 with 7.0. Can you share the download URL? Each time i have tried an update inthe past i end up with a phone that stops working. It's very weird, but after a few hours i can hear callers, but they cannot hear me. I then have to revert to the current, santioned, 7.0. My battery life sucks and applications dont run as quickly as they should; lot's of hangs.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulhubber View Post
    I have an ATT 990 with 7.0. Can you share the download URL? Each time i have tried an update inthe past i end up with a phone that stops working. It's very weird, but after a few hours i can hear callers, but they cannot hear me. I then have to revert to the current, santioned, 7.0. My battery life sucks and applications dont run as quickly as they should; lot's of hangs.

    Thanks.
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    Now-Now. Play nice.
    Hulhubber--I was on the 9900 forums doing some research for a friend and they had a lot of downloads on there; and you can always go to the BB Super Download Page for the latest leaks and officials out there. Good Luck!

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