I REALLY want a 9810........But

[tmarkt utd]

And I've seen on here that Vodafone have dropped the 9810 - not sure why, or if its true...

[peter_torchbook]

Ah, your in the UK. Didn't spot that. You won't have a problem then if you pick up a 2nd hand 9810 as long as it's unlocked to orange. CEX, cash converters or ebay are all good places to check out. We get HSPDA in the UK, and I had an unlocked iPhone 3GS(hangs head in shame) on Virgin back so there should be no problem. If you cna keep your current contract and swap to a sim free. Then when BB10 come out, you can upgrade at laugh at suckered like me who are locked down until 2014 because we are too impatient.

Another point, since owning my 9810, I haven't seen the hourglass, only the clock and that's only when installing apply. Has to do 2 battery pulls but I've upgraded to an unsupported os so completely my fault.

[Race Driver]

all very helpfull chaps thanks a lot. I could go for 18mths contract so could upgrade 3 months early some time in 2013. by then BB10 should be well established and have a good selection id of thought.

Not really sure I want to wait for an unannounced device that I may not want. waited several months to see the 9790 and was dissapointed.

I did look at a 9810 in CEX but it was £390. No way I can justify paying that in one hit. For race car parts yes but phones, no. Lol

I did look at P&Go but that worked out quite expensive. im not a heavy user. 200 mins, 250mb and around 400sms is my usual usage

[scook94]

Originally Posted by Race Driver

all very helpfull chaps thanks a lot. I could go for 18mths contract so could upgrade 3 months early some time in 2013. by then BB10 should be well established and have a good selection id of thought.

Not really sure I want to wait for an unannounced device that I may not want. waited several months to see the 9790 and was dissapointed.

I did look at a 9810 in CEX but it was £390. No way I can justify paying that in one hit. For race car parts yes but phones, no. Lol

I did look at P&Go but that worked out quite expensive. im not a heavy user. 200 mins, 250mb and around 400sms is my usual usage

Slightly cheaper on Amazon at £360.

BlackBerry Torch 9810 Sim Free Smartphone - Zinc Grey: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

[Race Driver]

Going to pick one up today.

What 7.1 build is everyone using? Ive got .258 installed and waiting. Only ever done an OTA update before, reading as much as I can find about the process

[newcollector]

Originally Posted by Race Driver

Going to pick one up today.

What 7.1 build is everyone using? Ive got .258 installed and waiting. Only ever done an OTA update before, reading as much as I can find about the process

I recommend the apploader method for loading an OS update.

1. Plug in your phone.
2. On computer click computer>C drive>program files>common files>research in motion>AppLoader.
3. Once in apploader, delete the vendor.xml file (you don't have to do this with a leak, but it is a good habit to get into in case you load an official OS from another carrier.
4. Click on the Loader icon in the apploader file (looks like an old cell phone).
5. Follow the prompts. The Apploader will back-up, wipe, and reload your phone.
6. Once the phone starts to reboot, be patient. It will seem to hang up about 2/3 of the way through. Give it time. Go make a spot of tea and relax. It will finish rebooting.

[Race Driver]

thats great info chap.

I had a look for the apploader icon but couldnt see it

[Race Driver]

I picked it up today, not done much to it yet. Just restored my contacts from Pritect so i could use it this afternoon. Havent set up anything else as I intend to do an os upgrade now. Out of the box its on 7.0.0.1465. Its asking me to upgrade OTA to .2406

Doing a complete uninstall and start again on all the os and DM software. Was missing the App Loader Icon so hope this cures that

[Race Driver]

Uninstalled everything from my laptop, reinstalled DM and the 7.1 build. Deleted Vendor file, Loader file was there.

Followed the prompts as newcollector described and left it. Came back to a bricked phone, started to feel sick. Tried again in a cold sweat and it worked. Now rocking 7.1

Tried to get Wifi calling working but no joy. Followed the instructions on a youtube video in this thread WIFI Calling Orange Uk and after a battery pull its working like a charm!! Turned off the radio and made a call soley on Wifi. Not going to touch a thing now, leaving all the settings as they are as its working.

So pleased, thank you all so much for your help. Going to get on with setting it up to suit me now and installing some apps. The wife has my 9700 already. we unlocked it earlier so she could use her o2 sim in it. That was easy to. Shes using it as dumb phone, just for calls and texts but she loves the keyboard and camera. She already has eyes on the Torch, Lol.

Thanks again for everyones help and advice.

[newcollector]

Originally Posted by Race Driver

Followed the prompts as newcollector described and left it. Came back to a bricked phone, started to feel sick. Tried again in a cold sweat and it worked. Now rocking 7.1

Glad it's working for you. I do know the "cold sweat" feeling, especially when the phone just hangs up during the last reboot and doesn't seem to move. I usually stay and watch the AppLoader work so if anything goes wrong or a prompt comes up, I am there to respond.

Is it hard to set a phone to be used as a dumb one? My wife wants my old 9800.

[Race Driver]

I went away from the laptop to put my 2 year old to bed. came back to find 507 error.
Watched it like a hawk next time. Surprised how easy it was. Had a nightmare in the past with this sort of stuff. Now if only I could remember my email password id be all set. Lol.

We put her O2 sim in the phone and it prompted her to get a BB package (shes on pay as you go) she wont use it, even tho I said we could keep in touch via BBM. But for £5 per month for the package its not worth it. She spends less than that on calls and sms. A very, very low user. Phone and SMS works fine. shes a little dissapointed about not being able to send MMS but she only sends about 1 a month anyway.

All I did was hide all the icons that were of no use to her. BBM, Email etc. She has a few games, calculator, Docs to go. Calendar etc. Shes more than happy. Bedside mode sold it to her.

[Race Driver]

ARRRGGGGHHH!!!!

It was working so well. Went out today and couldnt get BIS access on mobile network. Rang Orange and they said it was a problem at their end with the server. Started working within a few minuites and all was well.

But ive come back home and Wifi calling now refuses to work. Ive checked all the settings, done several battery pulls and nothing.

Dam and blast

[tmarkt utd]

To be honest mate I would not get too stressed - I had a UMA issue on my Bold 9700 where it just refused to work, even after wipes and reinstalls, not to mention batt pulls. Then, one day, it started working again as easily as it had before, and just as suddenly as it had stopped. It is very annoying, but it may just come back on its own...

Fingers crossed for you.

[Race Driver]

Yes, it has. very strange. Its working well now. I can go out the house to walk the dog and it locks back on as soon as I get near the house. Hope it keeps working.

Very pleased with the phone so far. Off to work today so going to see what battery life is like compaired to my old 9700

[doxa sub750T]

I occasionally run into wifi calling connection as well. Check All off box from manage connection fix this issue almost always. Rarely i have to do a battery pull. The last resource is to reset the router by unplugging the power.