difference btween a 9800 and a 9810?

**yungstar** · 10-24-2011, 08:55 AM

so i have a 9800, was just wondering whats the major difference, if any, btween the two...

**BigBadWulf** · 10-24-2011, 09:05 AM

The differences are major inside:

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-torch-9810-review

**myfairkadie** · 10-24-2011, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by yungstar

so i have a 9800, was just wondering whats the major difference, if any, btween the two...

The difference is like night and day. Between the liquid graphics, processor speed, and RAM, the phones only compare in looks.

**CanuckSoldier** · 10-24-2011, 09:53 AM

Yes the 9810 has everything the 9900 has except NFC, and it has the Autofocus camera also. On the outside all you will see is the higher res screen helping to power the liquid graphics system, but on the inside it is an entirely new machine from the 9800.

CS

**yungstar** · 10-24-2011, 11:29 AM

ok guys, thanks for the insight....

**homer1475** · 10-24-2011, 12:11 PM

Owned both(currently using the 9810), and I can tell you other then looks, these 2 devices are in no way similar. I hardly ever see the spinning clock any more, the touchscreen is way more accurate and is a breeze to use, Speaker volume is definitely improved, H+ as opposed to 3G, the ability to manage all those annoying panels, and the keyboard is somehow changed(can't exactly put my finger on it, but its definitely easier to type on and feels a bit different), overall speed and fluidity of the device is far superior, and you have way more internal storage space.

All things considered, I will be "driving" this device for a while. This is how the original 9800 should have been when launched.

**liddellc** · 11-01-2011, 09:23 PM

anyone notice the little notch beside the flash on the back of the phone? is that another microphone?

**Deathcommand** · 11-01-2011, 09:30 PM

I believe it is a noise canceling mic.
It's on the 9650 as well.

**w0qj** · 11-02-2011, 06:44 AM

Can anyone please help to confirm that the Torch 9810 has Asian handwriting input?
(I'm looking for Chinese handwriting input).

The Bold 9900 with touchscreen (incredibly) did not have handwriting input!!
I talked one of my friends into buying the Bold 9900, and at the last minute we found out Bold 9900 has no handwriting input, which is a required feature nowadays!

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...g-input-658062

**homer1475** · 11-02-2011, 06:48 AM

Are you referring to actually writing on the screen, and having it recognize what you wrote? I Don't believe the 9800 or the 9810 support these functions, unless there is an app that I'm unaware of?

Who writes on the screen with a BB? That's something you would do on a slab phone that has no hardware keyboard. With a BB you have the best in class full qwerty hardware keyboard. No need for handwriting support.

**TerribleTim68** · 11-02-2011, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by homer1475

...Who writes on the screen with a BB? ...

Evidently, everyone does.

Originally Posted by w0qj

...handwriting input, which is a required feature nowadays!...

**jetsetter** · 11-02-2011, 08:32 PM

Don't forget another major difference - lot of the apps that work on 9800 are no longer available/ported on 9810! Thanks RIM for a great upgrade!

**BigBadWulf** · 11-02-2011, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by jetsetter

Don't forget another major difference - lot of the apps that work on 9800 are no longer available/ported on 9810! Thanks RIM for a great upgrade!

Sometimes I just have to smh. On the one hand ya'll want RIM to catch up to the competition. On the other hand you want all the third party apps instantly compatible with the more advanced OS. Give the thousands of app developers time to update, please.

**Deathcommand** · 11-02-2011, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by jetsetter

Don't forget another major difference - lot of the apps that work on 9800 are no longer available/ported on 9810! Thanks RIM for a great upgrade!

I'm rather confused. Did you make an account just to say that? because you must be REALLY bored for that. lol

And actually most of the ones i use were pushed over to OS 7 within a month..

**jetsetter** · 11-02-2011, 11:00 PM

Hmm..It seems like my account has been active longer than yours, but who cares about facts! Unfortunately, don't have the kind of time like you to make over 4100 posts in 2 years here - more than 5 a day..Wonder, who's really bored?

Anyways - maybe you haven't seen this other thread - as of right now, it only spans 17 pages! - What's still unavailable on 9810

**BigBadWulf** · 11-03-2011, 09:10 AM

Not a very extensive list at this point, and few I'd consider major. Most of the thread lately seems to be about apps that need removed from the list.

Out of curiosity, how many apps are you currently lacking, and which ones?

**jetsetter** · 11-03-2011, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by BigBadWulf

Not a very extensive list at this point, and few I'd consider major. Most of the thread lately seems to be about apps that need removed from the list.

Out of curiosity, how many apps are you currently lacking, and which ones?

Webex
Jabber
Citrix GoToMeeting
LinkedIn
Salesforce

You know, just some of the business apps....

All the above were available via App World for my old 9800....

**JasW** · 11-03-2011, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by jetsetter

Webex
Jabber
Citrix GoToMeeting
LinkedIn
Salesforce

You know, just some of the business apps....

All the above were available via App World for my old 9800....

Uh, no. The Webex app didn't even support the OS6 devices. You cannot get it from App World on a 9800 now -- it will show as unavailable.

There is no Jabber app. There are various apps which support the Jabber client, and which are available for the 9810, such as IM+.

Citrix GoToMeeting has never had an app for any BB.

The LinkedIn app has not been updated, but then again, it totally sucked on the 9800 -- among other things, you couldn't close out of it -- so what are you missing? Email LinkedIn, it's not RIM's fault that (1) the app sucks, and (2) they haven't upgraded it.

Salesforce was available on the 9800 but isn't on the 9810, so you have a point there, to the extent that this is anybody's major or essential app. But it's not RIM's fault -- email the developer.

**BigBadWulf** · 11-04-2011, 01:58 PM

Thank you JasW. As always, you're right on top of it.

Who knows, WebEx might work, however just like LinkedIn below:

Download WebEx on your BlackBerry - free

Enter the email address that you use with your BlackBerry smartphone*, then click the Send App link button. You'll get an email with your download right away!
Email:

*Supported RIM BlackBerry Devices: Bold 9700, Bold 9000, Storm 9550, Storm 9500, Curve 8900, Tour 9630 with operating system 4.6 or higher and access to 3G or WiFi networks.

Download free app to join WebEx meetings on your BlackBerry

I did find the site for the Jabber app, and it looks to be supported through OS6. Instead of relying on App World, maybe the OS6 app will work fine.
https://download.webexconnect.com/ja...coJabberIM.jad

Citrix GoToMeeting I see discussed as possibly being made available for the PlayBook, but no mention of ever being a BlackBerry app.

LinkedIn:

Supported Devices: Tour, Bold, Curve, Storm, Pearl (OS 4.3.0 or higher)

LinkedIn for BlackBerry
I bet it sucked on the 9800.

Salesforce is another that can be obtained directly:
Download - salesforce.com
However:

REQUIRED OS:

The BlackBerry Operating Systems supported include versions 4.3, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, 5.0, and 6.0.

So it may not work correctly on OS7, and:

* Series 95xx (Storm) and Series 98xx (Torch) utilize the exact same Salesforce CRM Mobile software as other BlackBerry devices. As such, some aspects of Salesforce CRM Mobile are not optimized for the touch interface.

Which tells me it probably wasn't the best app on a 9800 either.

I did hear from a few friends with 9810s the frustration, picking them up on the day they released. It was echoed by those with 9900/9930s. That faded quickly, as the app developers caught up. It was the same with prior BlackBerry releases, such as the 9700, and no different than being an early Windows upgrader.

On a side note, I doubt many serious business professionals operate purely from their BlackBerry, no matter how much they're a committed fanboi.