[livejam]

Maybe theres no surepress, but they want you to use the trackpad to confirm selections.

[ImGeorgeous]

Maybe theres no surepress, but they want you to use the trackpad to confirm selections.

that would be a complete disaster and ergonomic nightmare.

[Stang68]

that would be a complete disaster and ergonomic nightmare.

I second that.

[Stang68]

I wish people would give up on this idea of a totally new OS for touch screens because IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Why? Because BlackBerry has anyways been and always will be about a gradual EVOLUTION of things, not something revolutionary new. Yes there are occasional unique new features like push email, BBM, and SurePress/TruePRess, but in all that they never fundamentally changed the system. Why? Because reguardless of it's desire to reach out onto the consumer realm, it is first and foremost a business device and as such it needs to remain relatively familiar to their existing user base. A user of the 8830 can pick up a Tour 9630 and feel right at home and pick up on the changes without being fundamentally retrained. This would not be the case if there was a new OS.

I think you're wrong there. RIM knows they have to change something. Right now, after Windows 7 Series Phone was unveiled, they are basically sitting in last place as far as OS goes. RIM isn't dumb, they will adapt and change to the changing market. 2010 is going to be a good year for RIM.

[Saukrateaz]

Maybe it's because this slider Blackberry isn't even touchscreen! Perhaps it is just a slider so that you can have a keyboard and a lot of screen real estate.

Agree, but for this to even remotely appeal to me it's going to have to be groundbreaking technology. Whole new OS, whole new feel, whole new BB revolution. lol

[mi_canuck]

How about the "blade"
That sounds good. BlackBerry Blade . ......

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**** no... brings to mind Wesley Snipes... bad... very bad....

[UN4GTBL]

That's right! A new OS will be on this slider device. Why, you ask? Well, if the rumors are true and this thing does not have SurePress but STILL has a touchscreen, then the whole Blackberry OS has to change. SurePress works because it allows you to highlight and then confirm. When you highlight an icon, it doesn't actually select it. You are able to hit the Blackberry menu button to bring up a bunch of options. That is how the Storm works and that is how EVERY Blackberry has worked...ever! Now, if this slider is only going to have a touchscreen and not a SurePress screen, then something has to change. The current Blackberry OS, which basically revolves around the BB menu button, will not be able to work correctly with just a touchscreen. It needs to have the highlight and confirm method! Well, the only way around this is that RIM had to design a true touchscreen operating system.

Now, why would there be a trackpad if the OS is changed and geared towards touch (without the highlight and confirm style)? Maybe it's because this slider Blackberry isn't even touchscreen! Perhaps it is just a slider so that you can have a keyboard and a lot of screen real estate.

Chew on these two points I've brought up. I'd love to see your thoughts

Great points.

I personally love the Storm way of doing things, with the touch highlight, click to select method. However i love my physical keyboard more, hence me having a 9700.

To me, it would be grat to have sure press on this, but i can see space being an issue, other wise it will be a brick.

I would have no real issue if it was not touch screen either though.

[aeroPM]

IMO... The only reason there is a trackpad is for when you are using the keyboard. The screen will be so much higher than where your thumbs are for the keyboard that it would be difficult to use the touch screen. Having the trackpad allows the user to easily switch between nav using the trackpad and typing using the keyboard rather than reaching all the way up to the touch screen.

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[scorpiodsu]

So the basis of this conclusion is because there is said to be no surepress? While I can understand that conclusion, RIM can certainly tweak the software so that way all you need to do is touch the screen rather than press it in to select something. I think surepress was something they wanted to do not needed to do because of the OS. Hey, I hope there is a new OS, but I'm not banking on it because of no surepress.

[SMJUCmoose]

I really want a new OS and I like the surepress. If they could have an on/off feature for it I think that would be better.

[DUKDIKz]

thats weird that the new slider has a trackpad

[WhoolioPreludee]

**** no... brings to mind Wesley Snipes... bad... very bad....

I knew someone would bring it up.... Heheheh I know. I was hoping the word blade would no longer be associated with that jack@$S. Bad memories are hard to forget

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[Stang68]

So the basis of this conclusion is because there is said to be no surepress? While I can understand that conclusion, RIM can certainly tweak the software so that way all you need to do is touch the screen rather than press it in to select something. I think surepress was something they wanted to do not needed to do because of the OS. Hey, I hope there is a new OS, but I'm not banking on it because of no surepress.

Yes, exactly. That is the basis of my conclusion. Think about it...if we cannot highlight THEN confirm, how will the current BB OS work? We need to be able to just highlight an icon if we want to be able to use the BB menu button, right? How could they keep the same OS if they get rid of SureType? Please, indulge me!

[The_Engine]

What did I miss? When was this device said not to have sure press? Seems it should be a lot slimmer if there is no sure press. I agree that if there is touch, but no press then this has to be a new OS. But if they are that close with OS6 then either it is just a reengineered OS5, or they new OS5 was garbage before we even saw the first leak. I am thinking 6 is a rebuild of 5 and not all new from the kernel up.

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[allengeorge]

Those who are expecting OS 6 to be a ground-up rewrite are going to be really disappointed. It's just not going to happen. First, the timelines mentioned don't support that and, if you're RIM, you're unlikely to throw out all your existing infrastructure, apps, and talking points. I suspect what we'll see is a slightly fresher UI and, (hopefully) some improvements in overall usability. But no radical changes. I mean, come on, the GUI designer etc. are being released soon, and if there were massive changes coming up that just wouldn't happen.

Frankly I think Palm's approach was the best. Allow apps to be developed in HTML, Javascript and CSS while allowing devs to drop down to C/C++ for libraries, games, etc.

Interestingly, while I did call out the Rogers Storm 3 image as "fake", now I'm starting to doubt that. I suspect that is was 6.0 will look like. More transparency, cleaner, but fundamentally the same.

[japhule]

It'll probably be new in a way like windows 7 is to vista. 6.0 is 5.2 afterall from what people are saying...