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  1. fierodough's Avatar
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    Default Identify the chip containing the PIN info.

    Hi guys!

    I hope you can help me out. I am a computer engineer and have some decent experience in soldering.

    I am looking to transfer my pin from a dead 9800 to an identical 9800 that is functional.

    Can someone help me identify this chip?

    The reason i would like to do this is that my work deals with sensitive information. When a device is damaged or end of life, it is destroyed and can't be sent for warranty repairs etc due to the possibility of information being accidently sent to the pin. I am simply trying to salvage some devices that will otherwise be destroyed.

    thank you!
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    i would say its not worth the time or the effort
    its a 9800
    let it die

    My reasoning? You're a computer engineer, getting paid $30+ a hour
    this might take you 3-4 hours, thats $100 on average, and the phone isnt even worth it

    i would remove the battery and the screen and send the rest to the recycler
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    After a safe data transfer from your old BB, all data connected to your old pin would be moved to the new pin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbzak View Post
    After a safe data transfer from your old BB, all data connected to your old pin would be moved to the new pin.
    But a pin is hardcoded in the device. If someone has not been updated on your hardware change, they can pin sensitive info to the device that is back in circulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fubaz View Post
    i would say its not worth the time or the effort
    its a 9800
    let it die

    My reasoning? You're a computer engineer, getting paid $30+ a hour
    this might take you 3-4 hours, thats $100 on average, and the phone isnt even worth it

    i would remove the battery and the screen and send the rest to the recycler
    a 9800 is only an example. We have device being taken out of service that are a few months old.

    I am on salary, it doesn't matter if I'm saving a blackberry or surfing the web, I get paid the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fierodough View Post
    But a pin is hardcoded in the device. If someone has not been updated on your hardware change, they can pin sensitive info to the device that is back in circulation.
    When you swap devices, it updates your new PIN with all BBM Contacts automatically. If the BBM Contacts are each associated with the relevant "regular" Contacts, the PIN will also update in your main Contacts list.

    Are the employees also connected on BBM?
    If not, it would be a better use of time going around, connecting everybody on BBM, and associating the BBM Contact with the Contact card for same person.
    Otherwise you'll keep having issues when a device is stolen, completely destroyed, etc.

    Before associating a Contact with its BBM counterpart, best first to delete any manually-entered PIN's.
    You can experiment and see if that matters or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elite1 View Post
    When you swap devices, it updates your new PIN with all BBM Contacts automatically. If the BBM Contacts are each associated with the relevant "regular" Contacts, the PIN will also update in your main Contacts list.

    Are the employees also connected on BBM?
    If not, it would be a better use of time going around, connecting everybody on BBM, and associating the BBM Contact with the Contact card for same person.
    Otherwise you'll keep having issues when a device is stolen, completely destroyed, etc.

    Before associating a Contact with its BBM counterpart, best first to delete any manually-entered PIN's.
    You can experiment and see if that matters or not.
    That would not work for us. We can't risk sensitive data being pined to a device no longer in the original owner's hands. Out clients often manualy PIN eachother for secure (not recorded by the BES) communications.

    So if someone can just give me the chip name or location that would be really appreciated. If no one knows, I will look elsewhere.

    Thank you.
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    It seems you have to destroy all your BB devices once it has done it's job. Else, somebody will send sensitive data to that phone as a pin message.
    Sounds strange to me but ofcourse it is possible.
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    Could always activate BES -> PIN Encryption would only allow users on the SAME BES to decrypt the BBM Messages, technically this makes it so People cannot BBM persons not on the same BES.

    A BES admin will need to speak up on this, but changing the chip would definitely not be worth the time and effort.

    KB10498-What is peer-to-peer message encryption?

    This will save money and can be done on the BAS thus securing your companies data .
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    well, sounds like the CIA or FBI might want to follow this thread . . . .
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    unless that's who you are, OP . . . . .

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