1. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Hey, it's Milo from the PreCentral forums with a request for some help from our BlackBerry friends.

    Would you please do this Real World test and post your results? If you have multiple phones, please test each phone while connected with WiFi. Times are from when you tap the icon until the app fully opens and is usable.

    I will post this in several different forums so that we can get results for different phones. I hope we get results for older and newer Blackberry's as well as Palm's, iPhone's, and Android's, etc.

    Real World Speed Test:
    1. With no apps running, time how long it takes to open your Facebook app.
    2. Close Facebook and time how long it takes to re-open Facebook.
    3. Close Facebook and time how long it takes to open Google Maps.
    4. Close Google Maps and time how long it takes to reopen Google Maps.

    Please cut and paste this Report Score Sheet in your reply:

    Real World Speed Test
    1. Time to open Facebook:
    2. Time to re-open Facebook:
    3. Time to open Google Maps:
    4. Time to re-open Google Maps:
    5. Phone make and model:
    6. If Overclocked, Speed:

    If you would like to see the effects of rebooting, do the test then reboot your phone and repeat the test.

    Basis for the test:
    3G or 4G connection speeds vary by location. WiFi should be similar for everyone. Linpack, Quadrant, and others test the CPU only or the graphics system only. This is a real life test of actually opening two very popular apps available on almost every phone. Time to open email, messages, etc. vary with the number of entries and so are not used.

    Thanks!

    - Craig

    Test threads: Palm PrePalm PixiHTC EVODroid XEpicBlackBerry
    Last edited by milominderbinde; 09-29-10 at 04:00 PM.
    09-29-10 03:58 PM
  2. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Do you mean to exclude the time necessary to refresh the data? For example, on iPhone, when you open it, it refreshes. Do you want the time it takes to just open or open and refresh data?
    09-29-10 04:26 PM
  3. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Do you mean to exclude the time necessary to refresh the data? For example, on iPhone, when you open it, it refreshes. Do you want the time it takes to just open or open and refresh data?
    The Google Maps would refresh as well as Facebook on webOS and Android as well. Yes, I am saying from tapping the icon until the app is up and running and you could click something. For instance, Google Maps may put up the topbar and frame first and then fill in the map. I am saying until the map is filled in.

    Thanks!

    -Craig
    09-29-10 04:50 PM
  4. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Real World Speed Test
    1. Time to open Facebook: under 2 seconds
    2. Time to re-open Facebook: under 1 second
    3. Time to open Google Maps: under 2 seconds
    4. Time to re-open Google Maps: under 1 second
    5. Phone make and model: iPhone 4
    6. If Overclocked, Speed:
    09-29-10 05:03 PM
  5. Altarocks's Avatar
    Real World Speed Test
    1. Time to open Facebook: 2.17s
    2. Time to re-open Facebook: 0.62s
    3. Time to open Google Maps: 2.13s
    4. Time to re-open Google Maps: 0.74s
    5. Phone make and model: BB Torch
    6. If Overclocked, Speed:
    09-29-10 05:04 PM
  6. LuvMyBB's Avatar
    When I'm driving, it's about 60 MPH.
    09-29-10 07:58 PM
  7. Fubaz's Avatar
    Why is this in the torch forums?

    Should be in BB discussion

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    09-29-10 08:01 PM
  8. vistate1's Avatar
    speed test
    Open facebook : 2.03 secs
    re-open facebook : 2.08
    Google maps open : 3.74 sec
    google re-open : 2.84

    BB Storm 1 5.0.0.797 ...lyricals hybrid i believe
    09-29-10 08:13 PM
  9. LuvMyBB's Avatar
    Real World Speed Test
    1. Time to open FaceBook: 1.76 secs
    2. Time to re-open FaceBook: 1.56 secs
    3. Time to open Google Maps: 2.45 secs to display map, 5.38 secs to include my location by triangulation (no gps signal indoors)
    4. Time to re-open Google Maps: 2.39 secs and 5.33 secs (using above criteria)
    5. Phone make and model: Torch 9800 with OS .246 on AT&T 3G
    6. Not overclocked
    09-29-10 08:30 PM
  10. TorchFrank's Avatar
    Why is this in the torch forums?

    Should be in BB discussion

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Checking the speed of the new OS maybe?
    09-29-10 08:43 PM
  11. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Checking the speed of the new OS maybe?
    That is exactly it. While I want all the data I can get on any phone, I really want to get a good sampling of the new OS on the Torch.

    And so far, I have to tell you, you are rocking. You are about 5 times the speed of a stock Palm Pre so far and still twice as fast as a Pre overclocked to 1.2 GHz. And the Storm is almost as fast. Wow.

    Thank you to everyone who has contributed so far!

    Please keep the tests coming!

    - Craig
    Last edited by milominderbinde; 09-29-10 at 10:53 PM.
    09-29-10 10:47 PM
  12. IchigoMochi's Avatar
    Real World Speed Test
    1. Time to open Facebook: 0.84 seconds
    2. Time to re-open Facebook: 0.76 seconds
    3. Time to open Google Maps: 1.26 seconds
    4. Time to re-open Google Maps:1.18 seconds
    5. Phone make and model: Torch 9800 OS 6 vers .246

    I never really paid too much attention to speed, but here it is.
    09-29-10 11:15 PM
  13. GameBoi's Avatar
    Real World Speed Test
    1. Time to open Facebook:3 sec
    2. Time to re-open Facebook:2 sec
    3. Time to open Google Maps:2 sec
    4. Time to re-open Google Maps:1 sec
    5. Phone make and model: BlackBerry Bold 9700(Tmo) v5.0.0743
    6. If Overclocked, Speed: no, standard
    09-29-10 11:30 PM
  14. milominderbinde's Avatar
    So far the 624 MHz Torch is 4.3 times as fast as a 1 GHz overclocked Pre. Also so far in these tests the Torch is neck and neck with the Droid X as the fastest phone we have tested.

    Congratulations CrackBerry lovers! Wow!

    Please give us a few more tests if you can to help round out our numbers.

    Thank you!

    - Craig
    09-29-10 11:30 PM
  15. IchigoMochi's Avatar
    So far the 624 MHz Torch is 4.3 times as fast as a 1 GHz overclocked Pre. Also so far in these tests the Torch is neck and neck with the Droid X as the fastest phone we have tested.

    Congratulations CrackBerry lovers! Wow!

    Please give us a few more tests if you can to help round out our numbers.

    Thank you!

    - Craig
    Once you get more data in and round things out a bit more do you mind posting the average times for each device? (Torch, Droid X, Pre) It's pleasing to know that the speed of the Torch is excellent and competitive with the Droid X. Processor size alone isn't everything after all =D
    09-30-10 01:24 AM
  16. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Once you get more data in and round things out a bit more do you mind posting the average times for each device? (Torch, Droid X, Pre) It's pleasing to know that the speed of the Torch is excellent and competitive with the Droid X. Processor size alone isn't everything after all =D
    You bet. I will post them in just a minute.

    - Craig
    09-30-10 12:01 PM
  17. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Thank you to everyone for your help!

    The results show what BlackBerry owners have been saying all along.

    BlackBerry's are fast!

    The Torch with it's OS 6 is remarkable, easily defeating the Pre, iPhone 4, and even the EVO. Only the Epic and Droid X could keep up.

    Even the 2009 BlackBerry Storm and Bold at ~600 MHz are nearly twice as fast as a 1GHz Pre.

    In the real world, BlackBerry's are fast.

    Here are the details...

    We have gotten 49 responses with 4 tests each covering 16 different phones/speeds.

    The initial opening speeds compared to the stock Pre:
    � Droid X: 6.9x � iPhone: 3.9x � EVO: 2.9x � Epic: 5.0x � Torch: 6.3x as fast as the stock Pre.

    The initial opening speeds compared to the 1 GHz Overclocked Pre:
    � Droid X: 4.2x � iPhone: 2.4x � EVO: 1.8x � Epic: 3.1x � Torch: 3.9x as fast as the 1 GHz Pre.

    Comparing all four tests to the stock Pre:
    � Droid X: 6.9x � iPhone: 6.1x � EVO: 4.4x � Epic: 7.6x � Torch: 7.3x as fast as the stock Pre.

    Comparing all four tests to the 1 GHz Overclocked Pre:
    � Droid X: 4.1x � iPhone: 3.6x � EVO: 2.6x � Epic: 4.5x � Torch: 4.3x as fast as the 1 GHz Pre.

    Other notes
    � These apps do not truly close on any of these phones as evidenced by the faster re-open times.
    � Other phones tested were 1.8 to 4.2 times the speed of the Palm Pre overclocked to 1 GHz.

    Test Detail Report
    Code:
    Open FB	Re-open	Open GM	Re-open	Average	Phone	Speed	Reboot	ID
    3	2	2	1	2.0	Bold	624	N	GoldBerryRocker
    2.03	2.08	3.74	2.84	2.7	Storm	528	N	vistate1
    2.17	0.62	2.13	0.74	1.4	Torch	624	N	Altarocks
    0.84	0.76	1.26	1.18	1.0	Torch	624	N	IchigoMochi
    1.76	1.56	2.45	2.39	2.0	Torch	624	N	LuvMyBB
    1	0.5	3	0.5	1.3	Epic	1000	N	estabancam
    1.5	0.5	4	1	1.8	Epic	1000	N	43
    1	0.5	3	0.5	1.3	Epic	1000	Y	estabancam
    1.5	1.5	2	1.5	1.6	Droid X	1000	Y	Kupe
    1.5	1.5	1.5	1.5	1.5	Droid X	1000	N	dvader
    4	1	5	2	3.0	HTC EVO	1000	N	milo
    4	1	4	1	2.5	HTC EVO	1000	Y	milo
    3	1	5	1	2.5	HTC EVO	1000	N	Mdorty
    3	1	3	1	2.0	HTC EVO	1000	N	Stokes
    4	0.5	4	1	2.4	HTC EVO	1000	N	Jerzyiroc 
    5	1.5	5	0.5	3.0	HTC EVO	1000	N	Brain Mantis
    3	1	2	0.5	1.6	HTC EVO	1000	Y	Brain Mantis
    2	0.5	2	1	1.4	HTC EVO	1200	N	Jerzyiroc 
    2	0.5	2.5	0.5	1.4	iPhone4	800	N	finngirl
    2	0.5	2	0.5	1.3	iPhone4	800	Y	finngirl
    2	0.5	2	0.5	1.3	iPhone4	800	N	Roo Zilla
    5	1	3	1	2.5	iPhone4	800	N	nappy
    5	1	3	1	2.5	iPhone4	800	Y	nappy
    14	7	12	17	12.5	Pixi	600	N	mattflick819
    11	10	22	16	14.8	Pixi	600	N	IcerC
    11	11	17	10	12.3	Pixi	600	N	nitu
    13	12	11	11	11.8	Pre	500	N	milo
    12	12	12	11	11.8	Pre	500	N	45
    12	11	12	11	11.5	Pre	500	Y	45
    12	12	10	10	11.0	Pre	500	Y	milo
    8	6	10	8	8.0	Pre	500	Y	Garrett
    6	4	8	5	5.8	Pre	800	Y	Garrett
    10	5	21	13	12.3	Pre	800	N	Mike5
    6	9	22	14	12.8	Pre	800	N	igobytony
    8	6	10	8	8.0	Pre	1000	N	Rush
    2	2	7	6	4.3	Pre	1000	N	NickDG
    5	5	10	8	7.0	Pre	1000	Y	12
    4	5	15	10	8.5	Pre	1000	N	ChanceNC
    4	4	6	5	4.8	Pre	1000	Y	ChanceNC
    6	5	11	10	8.0	Pre	1000	N	Mike5
    6	5	10	9	7.5	Pre	1000	N	45
    3	3	6	5	4.3	Pre	1000	N	grizzley addams
    4	3	7	5	4.8	Pre	1000	Y	Garrett
    5	3.5	5	5	4.6	Pre	1200	N	2sslow
    9	6	9	7	7.8	Pre +	500	N	HIYinOR
    10	4	10	4	7.0	Pre +	800	N	Cantaffordit
    7	6	6	5	6.0	Pre +	800	N	smmullen
    6	5	5	4	5.0	Pre +	1000	N	HIYinOR
    1.6	1.0	1.9	1.4	1.5	Torch	average		
    1.2	0.5	3.3	0.7	1.4	Epic	average		
    1.5	1.5	1.8	1.5	1.6	Droid X	average		
    3.2	0.7	2.5	0.7	1.8	iPhone4	average		
    3.7	1.0	4.0	1.0	2.4	HTC EVO	average		
    12.0	9.3	17.0	14.3	13.2	Pixi	average		
    11.4	10.6	11.0	10.2	10.8	500 Pre	average		
    7.5	5.5	12.0	7.5	8.1	800 Pre	average		
    4.7	4.2	9.1	7.3	6.3	1G Pre	average
    FB = Facebook, GM = Google Maps. A result of 2-3, was entered as a 2.5. "Instant" was entered as 0.5 seconds. Three users replied via PM and asked to not be identified.
    09-30-10 12:10 PM
  18. milominderbinde's Avatar
    We did get a number of addtional test reports but the results are unchanged.

    The results are clear.

    Thanks again!

    - Craig
    10-01-10 11:25 AM
  19. PHughes's Avatar
    I've had mine going a little over 500 MPH so far on a few flights with no problems.
    10-01-10 12:00 PM
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