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Old 06-29-2011, 07:08 PM
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Hello and thank you in advance to anyone that takes the time to reply to my question. I'm just interested in making my Torch as fast and battery efficient as possible. So I was going to delete all the preloaded app's which I have no need for, including BBM and anything else that isn't essential. I've updated the O.S. to the .526 version which then tells me my phone is "up to date." But will doing this actually make my phone faster and increase battery life? I only need the email options for work purposes. Not interested in any "trick" themes unless there's one available which improves overall performance compared to the stock one. Not big on app's either unless there's a truly useful one which will increase efficiency and battery life. The only app I have downloaded is BerryWeather and it seems that's already put some strain on my battery so I'm debating on deleting that also. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. I'm obviously a huge noobie when it comes to the BB Torch but hope to learn from this awesome forum!
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What type of speed are your trying to achieve?
Define faster?
If you are not seeing an hour glass when using the device, then the Torch is pretty damn fast as is!
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Your Torch should be plenty fast since your aren't on .246. Are you running apps in the background possibly? Like SumthinNew said, if you aren't seeing the hourglass, there really shouldn't be a speed issue. I've never really had an issue with speed on my Torch. Just keep all unnecessary apps closed and you should be alright.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:27 PM
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I'm not having issues with the Torch, I just want to free up as much memory as possible. I haven't even opened/run any of the app's that came with the phone so hopefully nothing's running in the background. The phone is strictly for business so I just want to remove all the junk/social app's and wanted to see if that would improve the phones performance and increase battery life?
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Hello and thank you in advance to anyone that takes the time to reply to my question. I'm just interested in making my Torch as fast and battery efficient as possible. So I was going to delete all the preloaded app's which I have no need for, including BBM and anything else that isn't essential. I've updated the O.S. to the .526 version which then tells me my phone is "up to date." But will doing this actually make my phone faster and increase battery life? I only need the email options for work purposes. Not interested in any "trick" themes unless there's one available which improves overall performance compared to the stock one. Not big on app's either unless there's a truly useful one which will increase efficiency and battery life. The only app I have downloaded is BerryWeather and it seems that's already put some strain on my battery so I'm debating on deleting that also. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. I'm obviously a huge noobie when it comes to the BB Torch but hope to learn from this awesome forum!


Hi I think what you did was tight deleting application that you don't really need, this would definitely help your blackberry torch work faster and if you want your battery to work longer make sure not to charge it til it got drained. .. hope that helps!
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What I want to know is, if you have no need for extra apps, then what's the point of maximizing your memory?

The Torch has plenty of memory with 512 MB and saving maybe 5 or so MB by deleting extra apps won't do anything for you. With the base OS, you will be left with about 270 MB. That's about what I had to start with when I first got my Torch. Now with about 20 or so apps including some several MB each and others much smaller, I'm still left with about 245 MB. Way more than enough.

Understand that I came from Pearl 8100 with it's whopping 64 MB of ram. After the OS 4.5 and a few key apps I wanted, I was lucky if I had 17 to 18 MB free after a fresh reboot. Even so, the thing still ran rather smoothly, even if data was slow from the slower EDGE connection. And that was with 2 email accounts, 250 some-odd contacts, and keeping 2 calendars (all of which has since carried over to the Torch).

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Hello and thank you in advance to anyone that takes the time to reply to my question. I'm just interested in making my Torch as fast and battery efficient as possible. So I was going to delete all the preloaded app's which I have no need for, including BBM and anything else that isn't essential. I've updated the O.S. to the .526 version which then tells me my phone is "up to date." But will doing this actually make my phone faster and increase battery life? I only need the email options for work purposes. Not interested in any "trick" themes unless there's one available which improves overall performance compared to the stock one. Not big on app's either unless there's a truly useful one which will increase efficiency and battery life. The only app I have downloaded is BerryWeather and it seems that's already put some strain on my battery so I'm debating on deleting that also. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. I'm obviously a huge noobie when it comes to the BB Torch but hope to learn from this awesome forum!
Just keep it up to date via the DM. You can use all the apps you want just as long as you close them by using the BB button just left of the track ball. Scroll to "close" and do that to make sure the app is closed properly. If you use the back button or the red telephone button, the app will be running in the background, sucking down your battery.
Also, read this for battery life info.
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Untick 'Enable Compression' under Settings > Device > Storage. That may increase your Torch's performance and lengthen its battery life

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Untick 'Enable Compression' under Settings > Device > Storage. That should increase your Torch's performance and lengthen its battery life

Disable Compression? In the "Blackberry 101" link that Saudadeii was kind enough to link up it says to Enable it....so now I'm confused. Not even sure what it does to begin with so now I'm kind of lost. Does it help battery life? The battery life seems to be fairly decent with it enabled so if it were to extend it more so I'll definitely disable it! But if it interferes with the receiving/sending of emails I don't want to touch it since my email communication is essential.
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I have compression disabled and haven't really noticed a difference one way or the other.

You REALLY want to see a speed increase? I, beyond a shadow of a doubt, have seen significant increases in touchscreen responsiveness and overall performance with OS 6.0.0.600. It is the best OS I have used by far.

Deleting apps will definitely increase memory, and I would think by deleting BBM (it seems to be running all the time whether in use or not) you could potentially increase performance...although it pains me to hear about anyone with a BB who doesn't use BBM
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Disable Compression? In the "Blackberry 101" link that Saudadeii was kind enough to link up it says to Enable it....so now I'm confused. Not even sure what it does to begin with so now I'm kind of lost. Does it help battery life? The battery life seems to be fairly decent with it enabled so if it were to extend it more so I'll definitely disable it! But if it interferes with the receiving/sending of emails I don't want to touch it since my email communication is essential.
The setting was implemented when BlackBerries had even smaller internal storage and didn't support microSD cards. When the setting is enabled, the BlackBerry is constantly having to compress data when it is stored and then uncompress the data when it is accessed.


This feature is no longer necessary due to the larger amount of storage on current BlackBerry handsets and in some cases the phone's performance can be affected negatively when the setting is enabled. I turned it off on my Torch and the increase in performance and battery life is definitely noticeable...


Check out this thread for more information:

http://forums.crackberry.com/f209/i-...roblem-611882/

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The setting was implemented when BlackBerries had even smaller internal storage and didn't support microSD cards. When the setting is enabled, the BlackBerry is constantly having to compress data when it is stored and then uncompress the data when it is accessed.


This feature is no longer necessary due to the larger amount of storage on current BlackBerry handsets and in some cases the phone's performance can be affected negatively when the setting is enabled. I turned it off on my Torch and the increase in performance and battery life is definitely noticeable...


Check out this thread for more information:

http://forums.crackberry.com/f209/i-...roblem-611882/
That's the king of all self-perpetuating myth threads. The OP there is just theorizing, and you state his utterly unsupported theory as if it were fact.

I have twice as large a micro SD as that guy, and it's virtually stuffed to the gills. Checking or unchecking compression makes no difference in the way my Torch runs.
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I spent an hour or so reading through that entire "spinning-clock" post and searched other posts in relation to that subject. He does offer some statistical data to support his findings but in my humble opinion, it seems as if alot of people fell into the "placebo effect" as someone else had mentioned, almost a mob mentality. One person says, "it worked for me!!" therefore the next person has the expectation of it to work also and even without any noticeable differences they may perceive there to be improvements. Admittedly I don't have the tech savvy that many other's do but I'm just looking at it from a psychological perspective. I downloaded Meterberry and prior to reading that thread I was at about .5% discharge at idle overnight. After disabling compression, a few battery pulls and a solid charge, my discharge was still .5% at idle. Didn't really notice any other changes in my browser capabilities or overall speed of browsing, but if other's are saying they do get that, who am I to doubt them? My conclusion; if it works either psychologically or in actuality for people, so be it.
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One way to make the OS faster is by killing or reducing the number of background processes, you can see all of them using the engineering screen. Pay attention to anything third party that has a high total cpu usage or a high heap size. Then you can check native processes and link them to their respective cod files, if they are safe to remove (you have to look that up) then go ahead and get rid of the cod file. Number of applications are not relevant once the OS has already booted up, whats important is the ones actively running in the background. So, you can have 100 installed apps, but only a handful of light third party processes in the background and it will run nice.

One way to make the OS bootup faster is to have less apps installed and less apps that run at startup.

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Anybody yet mentioned shrinking the OS?
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