[jpr196]

Rim bashing is hysterical! I am sure they are all so worried that they are on the verge of distinction...what most people fail to realize, majority of BB users don't visit forms and just happy with how their phone works...

RIM will continue to do what they have always done and do it well. If they get passed, so be it...there are more consumer oriented people in this world anyway...such is life.

I can't wait to play with a 9800!

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I doubt RIMMs stockholders would like to hear that sort of guidance.

I have no proof or evidence to support my claim, so this is just pure speculation - But I suspect that at least a few of people coming on this forum are paid opperatives/employees/etc of HTC, Apple, Motorola and others to go on their competitors fan sites, to cast aspersions/sow a seed of doubt, etc. on their phone. They pose as BB users or former BB users and are now spending more time on crackberry site preaching the virtues of their iphone, DroidX, etc. This last 24 hours with all the 9800 basing is really starting to make me wonder. . . .

Shameful.

Does anyone else have this supision or it just me? I'm sure many of you will disagree with me - just a thought.

You have 8 posts dude. How do we know you're not paid by RIMM to spread positive news about the 9800.

I'm joking...but seriously...most of the people bashing the 9800 here are either current or former Blackberry users who are frustrated with RIMMs stagnation. That's pretty much the bottom line.

[jome]

You have 8 posts dude. How do we know you're not paid by RIMM to spread positive news about the 9800.

Lol - Damm, I've been found out!

Seriously though, now that you mention it, I wish I was a paid spokes mouth for RIM, I could use the extra money.

[Deathcommand]

Lol - Damm, I've been found out!

Seriously though, now that you mention it, I wish I was a paid spokes mouth for RIM, I could use the extra money.

well look! you have 9 now

[jpr196]

Lol - Damm, I've been found out!

Seriously though, now that you mention it, I wish I was a paid spokes mouth for RIM, I could use the extra money.

Haha...actually I do wonder if companies do that sort of thing...whether it be to spread negative or positive press.

[Fr3lncr]

Resizing doesn't make it more sharper does it? I've never ask for text to be bigger, just wanted it to look sharp and crystal clear like it does on the 480x360 tour/bold/curve.

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Don't forget that the Torch has a higher resolution than the iPhone 3GS or the latest generation iPod Touch and people aren't complaining about the resolution there... Mind you I'm sure they'll expect more for the next iPod Touch but c'mon... it's not that bad!

[Deathcommand]

Don't forget that the Torch has a higher resolution than the iPhone 3GS or the latest generation iPod Touch and people aren't complaining about the resolution there... Mind you I'm sure they'll expect more for the next iPod Touch but c'mon... it's not that bad!

EXACTLY THE POINT I MADE!

People are like, The resolution makes my poor eyes burn from their sockets. The letters look horrible.

When people had iPhones 3Gs they were all.
OMG SUCH AN AMAZING SCREEN!! LOOK YOU CAN TOUCH IT.

Tech sites are all, "If you are used to a High-Res screen it will not be good for the eyes."
If you are USED to seeing a higher resolution, THEN YOU AREN'T AT A POINT WERE YOU SHOULD BE UPGRADING.

I mean. When I hand my iPod to a friend who has an Incredible, he automatically says, "Holy Sh-t. I can't read this screen!!". You know. Like a regular person would with the BB Torch.
...
That was sarcasm..

Thank you and have a nice day.
Death.

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[ShortStakz]

People don't realize how good they have compared to historical stuff.....

Here's the best phone ever.........in 1991.

very true! I'm slightly ashamed that I even remember these phones..

[vaca232]

Dear Crackberry Trolls.
The phone is not a device made for games, That's too freaking bad okay?
I'm tired of all these people who don't know what they are talking about.
With a more powerful Processor and higher resolution display, we give up Battery life.

If you want a more powerful Processor go to the Android Central.

Or a High res Screen go to The iPhone Blog.

Have a nice day.

Love Deathcommand.

How's VisiCalc working out for you?

I bet Windows 2.1 screams on your 286.

Did you write your resume in Notepad?

Do you see what I'm getting at?

[D_March]

They are all in a tizzy running around predicting the demise of RIM. It is pretty funny stuff.

[Deathcommand]

How's VisiCalc working out for you?

I bet Windows 2.1 screams on your 286.

Did you write your resume in Notepad?

Do you see what I'm getting at?

.. No but you got me confused.

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[vaca232]

Don't forget that the Torch has a higher resolution than the iPhone 3GS or the latest generation iPod Touch and people aren't complaining about the resolution there... Mind you I'm sure they'll expect more for the next iPod Touch but c'mon... it's not that bad!

People most definitely were complaining about the resolution of the iPhone 3GS's screen when Android phones with 800x480 resolution screens started coming out.

[vaca232]

.. No but you got me confused.

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All of them were business tools, and they're all long dead because they didn't evolve to keep up with competition.

[Deathcommand]

All of them were business tools, and they're all long dead because they didn't evolve to keep up with competition.

"Working in collaboration with AT&T for 2 years on this project." Aka before android.

They have the basic set up.
Now let them begin to upgrade.

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[chris2k5]

EXACTLY THE POINT I MADE!

People are like, The resolution makes my poor eyes burn from their sockets. The letters look horrible.

When people had iPhones 3Gs they were all.
OMG SUCH AN AMAZING SCREEN!! LOOK YOU CAN TOUCH IT.

Tech sites are all, "If you are used to a High-Res screen it will not be good for the eyes."
If you are USED to seeing a higher resolution, THEN YOU AREN'T AT A POINT WERE YOU SHOULD BE UPGRADING.

I mean. When I hand my iPod to a friend who has an Incredible, he automatically says, "Holy Sh-t. I can't read this screen!!". You know. Like a regular person would with the BB Torch.
...
That was sarcasm..

Thank you and have a nice day.
Death.

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Problem is it is a new environment and if RIM can't keep up with the Joneses, they've lost it.

Plus, the iPhone variants had a 3.5 inch screen. The extra real estate really helped it out while RIM kept a 3.2 inch screen which from my experience with the 9800 is kind of painful to use.

[conker]

Dear Crackberry Trolls.
The phone is not a device made for games, That's too freaking bad okay?
I'm tired of all these people who don't know what they are talking about.
With a more powerful Processor and higher resolution display, we give up Battery life.

If you want a more powerful Processor go to the Android Central.

Or a High res Screen go to The iPhone Blog.

Have a nice day.

Love Deathcommand.

People freakout, ***** and moan because they care. This is the only place where you will hear such passion. Listen to the users that are currently fans of the device (barely, at this point), while you still have users.

I like what someone said... BB's are the new Sidekick, and are becoming the low-income ghetto device.

[chris2k5]

HAHAHAHA. Low-income ghetto devices. Wow thats the first time I heard that one. From the looks of it, it mind as well be true.

[Najo]

I'm so sick of all these fanboys

I know right! Who would have thought you would find Blackberry fans on a site called "Crackberry" Wow! What an outrage!!

[Masahiro]

I know right! Who would have thought you would find Blackberry fans on a site called "Crackberry" Wow! What an outrage!!

Ignore him. He's been posting that same stuff in several other threads.

[slinky317]

I have no proof or evidence to support my claim, so this is just pure speculation - But I suspect that at least a few of people coming on this forum are paid opperatives/employees/etc of HTC, Apple, Motorola and others to go on their competitors fan sites, to cast aspersions/sow a seed of doubt, etc. on their phone. They pose as BB users or former BB users and are now spending more time on crackberry site preaching the virtues of their iphone, DroidX, etc. This last 24 hours with all the 9800 basing is really starting to make me wonder. . . .

Shameful.

Does anyone else have this supision or it just me? I'm sure many of you will disagree with me - just a thought.

You've got to be kidding me, right?

Look, I'm not a fan of Apple. I currently have an Android device, and moved to it after owning a Tour and got fed up with cleaning my trackball twice a day after having three replacement devices.

The fact is that the 9800 was designed to be a consumer phone. And if you're looking into the consumer world, it HAS to compete with the likes of iPhone and Android, and it's obvious that it can't. We're not even talking about gaming here - just the overall power of the phone. In the era of when a 1ghz processor in a smartphone is almost standard, the weak processor in the Torch stands out. It would be different if the phone was able to fly with the processor on-board, but it's obvious from the review videos that it doesn't. Especially in the new browser, which looks horridly slow compared to everything else on the market.

As a consumer, why should you go with the Torch over an iPhone 4 or a Droid? Other than BBM, I don't really see a reason.

[Bettermost]

Face it, Blackberry is a decade behind IPhone and Google based handsets. After owning my HTC Evo for a month now there is no way I would ever go back to a Blackberry handset unless I had to. I don't care what Blackberry calls the handset or if they modernize the OS its still an antique compared to the Google phones out today. Google pushes e mail from all servers just as fast as Blackberry so I don't buy that excuse anymore. I would never go back to Blackberry in its current form.

[spawn026]

Don't forget that the Torch has a higher resolution than the iPhone 3GS or the latest generation iPod Touch and people aren't complaining about the resolution there... Mind you I'm sure they'll expect more for the next iPod Touch but c'mon... it's not that bad!

wow, so you found one fact and you post it in everysingle thread you can. We get it, you are showing rim is using a resolution that others were years ago, good for you. The fact rim introduced opengl support in 5 and yanked it from underneath the devs in 6 shows the company is just getting lost in their tracks. They have ideas and don't execute them completely. Everyone claiming the phone isn't meant to be a gaming phone or multimedia one is lying to themselves. If the phone is only getting the attention from the small population who appreciates those limitations then they fail in making a profit and the shareholders aren't investing just to satisfy a few. Their numbers are on the downslope and making moves like this isn't helping their cause, its just adding to the effect.

[Najo]

As a consumer, why should you go with the Torch over an iPhone 4 or a Droid? Other than BBM, I don't really see a reason.

That is fine if you don't see a reason, you don't have too!. I will purchase the 9800 because I like the Blackberry OS, I like the user configuration, I like the notifications and message integration, the outlook and meeting notifications, yep I do like BBM, I like the security and encryption, etc...

You do not have to see a reason!

Oh did I mention the specs! No, because I don’t give a crap as long as it WORKS!

[VeryBold]

+1 Well stated, Najo!

[syb0rg]

I have an HTC Magic running CM6, ie Android 2.2 (Froyo), works great.

Might wanna read up a bit before you bash a phone.

+1



Works like a Charm... and it's more a SmartPhone than my 9700 ever was.

[JasW]

The fact is that the 9800 was designed to be a consumer phone.

Wrong. It was designed to add consumer phone features to a BB. Big difference.