Storm vs. iPhone...
It seems to me that the two phones (even though I've only touched one) are pretty even.
The iPhone has huge advantages in a few areas where the BlackBerry likely can't touch it:
--The App Store...nothing BlackBerry has now is even close to competing with the App Store through iTunes
--Wi-Fi...Verizon's 3G is much more reliable than at&t's, and much more widely available. Nevertheless, you can't underestimate Wi-Fi in this day and age, especially when "unlimited" plans are capped at 5GB of data.
--MobileMe...yes, yes, I KNOW this has been a disaster so far, but all signs point to Apple rectifying the problem by years end.
--The iPhone's cachet...no matter the product, it seems Apple can do no wrong. BlackBerry is certainly its closest competitor in the phone market--and is more popular, judging by the overall sales numbers--but no matter what argument you use, the average, uneducated citizen has the permanent idea that the iPhone is the best phone on the market, bar none. Even BlackBerry can't get people to stand in line for hours, even days to pick up its latest devices.
The Storm, however, seems--based on the released specs--to have a many smaller advantages over the iPhone.
--Verizon's network...as Verizon's slogan states, a phone is only as good as the network it's on, and the network aspect can't be underestimated.
--The Storm will have a better camera, with video capture capability
--The Storm will have removable battery and memory capabilities, making these aspects theoretically superior to the iPhone's.
--The Storm will have BlackBerry's push e-mail, which is assuredly superior to Apple's push attempts so far.
--Storm will likely have a better screen for texting/e-mail, though this is highly subjective.
--The Storm will have a slightly higher resolution.
--The Storm will have a speaker phone.
--The Storm will incorporate SMS Picture messaging.
The iPhone's success and admiration seems to stem from Apple's ability to make the "impossible" possible. The iPhone has taken mobile internet, media, and gaming to another level. Nevertheless, the iPhone lacks some of the most basic functionalities of other phones, like the inability to send picture messages, the lack of a speakerphone, and the lack of a video-recording capabilities. Some of the iPhone's downfalls are included on even the most outdated "dumphones."
I'm sure there are several things I've left out, but I don't know what's important to everyone else. Only time will tell how this phone truly compares to the iPhone. Thoughts on the importance of these features, or the future of the Storm, anyone?
Last edited by jta1188; 09-25-08 at 01:38 AM.
- 09-25-08, 01:41 AM #2
and the iphone was launched last year..
In RIM's defense, there are some aspects of this phone that are revolutionary.. well, maybe one - the button screen.
What i'm trying to say it that you might think that after all this time has past, RIM would be able to make a device that is far superior to the iphone, which is technically last year's technology.
- 09-25-08, 09:10 PM #7
unless you're plain dumb you should be aware that any major company planning on releasing anything to compete with a product that is dominating the market will (if they have any sense) make it on par if not superior to it's competition.
you can cry about your wifi all you want to once you've used rev a you won't miss it. if you live in the middle of nowhere and absolutely need wifi for whatever reason, get an ipod touch and a standard phone save yourself the money on a "smartphone" cause your iphone speeds will suck there anyhow and you will simply waste money paying for a service you don't use.
- 09-25-08, 09:55 PM #8
so i was just browsing over on the 'storm-reviews' site referenced by the screen shots and found this shot of a qwerty keyboard in portrait mode. although it looks like an iphone. i'm not sure what the deal is.
oh yeah here is the page link
Last edited by crescent; 09-25-08 at 09:56 PM. Reason: added link
- 09-25-08, 10:19 PM #10
What's sad is the iphone has been out for over a year and all the storm is doing is playing "catch up". To take away market share from the iphone they need to come up with a device that exceeds what is currently on the market.
The storm won't kill the iphone anymore than any other touchscreen phone has. Apple is just better at putting hype around their products.
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- 09-26-08, 12:42 PM #11The storm won't kill the iphone anymore than any other touchscreen phone has. Apple is just better at putting hype around their products.
I think alot of Iphone fans forget about this very important aspect.
Apple does have a really nice device called the iPhone but what made the iphone what it is today is how Apple is able to create "hype". You can sell crap to people if you know how to properly hype your crap. PS: Im not refering to the iphone as crap. Im just saying that "hype" can get you to sell anything to alot of people.
The vast majority of the people who bought iPhones bought them because of the hype that surrounded the device. Alot of people who bought the iphone didnt even know what the specs were or how it worked all they knew is that "everyone wanted one and therefore I should have one too"
Apple managed to create this hype because its biggest competitor is Microsoft not RIM. It was able to create the hype based on users frustration from using WindowsMobile not RIM. You hardly ever hear RIM users ditching their Curve or Bold to buy an Iphone.
Iphone users mainly consist of people who had WindowsMobile device or low end device that did not offer 3G/Wifi/Gps/Camera.
However considering that Apple had never been in the cellphone business it had no other choice but to create Hype in order to sell its phone
The iPhone is not a flawless device. it has problem like any other phones on the market now.
The iphone would not of sold as much if it didnt have a Hype to back it up!
- 09-26-08, 01:20 PM #12
I completely disagree. First off, the 95xx does NOT have to kill the Iphone. All it needs to do is take some of the market share. The 95xx does not have to exceed the capabilities of the Iphone in order to accomplish this task. The features and capabilities it possesses, accompanied with the RIM name and reputation will definitely guarantee this device a share of the market.
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09-26-08, 02:00 PM #13the 95xx does NOT have to kill the Iphone.
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Maybe they think that the 95 not killing the iPhone actually matters to BB fans and actually means stuff.
You can't compare Apples to Berries. These two devices are not even of the same class. iPhone is a toy. To do the job right, you don't use toys, PERIOD. The Blackberry 95 is an elegant business machine designed to take care of business!
- 09-26-08, 04:39 PM #14
I never said the storm needs to kill the iphone, but in order to draw the average john q. away from it, the storm can't just equal the iphone, it has to exceed it. The average person doesn't research a phone before they buy it, they just get a phone that's "cool" and the iphone is perceived as the coolest phone on the market. Unless RIM and verizon can create that kind of hype around the storm, it won't take away a major portion of the iphone users.
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- 09-26-08, 04:40 PM #15Maybe they think that the 95 not killing the iPhone actually matters to BB fans and actually means stuff.iPhone is a toy
- 09-26-08, 04:48 PM #16
I really think RIM and VZW should hype the Storm up as much as possible. Again, there are a LOT of BB heads, who have no idea about the Bold, let alone the Storm.
One the reasons Apple has been so successful, is because of their marketing push. When the iphone was getting ready to be released, you saw an iphone commercial every 10-15 minutes and that got people excited. Even a lot of so called hardcore blackberry fans. Now they have the iphone and hate it, but don't see anything else cooler, so they just deal with it. And that's sad because for most of them, the phone doesn't even truly meet their needs.
- 09-26-08, 05:08 PM #17
Tell me in which Apple hyped their products that other companies haven't. Apple products just get more media attention than other products, that's just how it is. This can because they have had successful products from ipod, itunes, mac sales are growing, their retail stores have been successful. The media praises them but they also face backlashes when they mess up as we have seen recently with the the iphone 3g issues, mobileme, rejecting apps, etc. If Apple creates hype for its products then everybody else creates hype from Sony, to Microsoft, to Nintendo, even RIM, heck I've seen a lot of commercials for the bold. Look at the recent Android launch, look how much "hype" came with that.
Sure the iphone has flaws, but so do blackberries like every other phone. Only when the iphone sells its because of hype but with blackberries there's no hype. They are flawless machines, I mean there's nobody who bought a blackberry because their buddy has one and wants to fit in but everyone who has one researched before purchasing but with iphones, everyone bought one because of hype and Apple's marketing. I mean no one else markets their products and hypes them.
- 09-26-08, 05:12 PM #19
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- 09-26-08, 05:55 PM #22
This thread is hilarious. I mean come on, so much hate over a phone, actually I guess I should call it a "toy". You people should be happy Apple created the iPhone, or your Storm and half the other iClones would never exist.
People say the iPhone is a toy, well I guess it's a revolutionary toy that seems to have every major phone manufacturer working their asses off trying to make something better. Be happy the iPhone is out, competition is great for the customer, but I guess some of you are so in love with your blackberries (btw it's a damn PHONE) that you refuse to believe something else can be good too. Yes RIM makes great products, yes RIM has the best email service right NOW, but guess what, their phones are NOT the best, they are AMONG the best.
Yea iPhone users go into other phone forums to bash other phones, but no one else does that right? Give me a break. This happens with every product, xbox user bash ps3 users in their forums and vice versa. There will ALWAYS be the ones who do this, and unfortunately they are the ones you notice the most, and people base their opinions off that.
All this hate is hysterical, I can't tell if this is jealousy, or people just have nothing better to talk about.
I will enjoy my iPhone and Curve while you all wait for the Storm. Hopefully you all enjoy it just as much as your previous berries. This hate/bashing is not needed.
Last edited by avt123; 09-26-08 at 05:57 PM.
- 09-26-08, 06:03 PM #23
Apple. Where else are there fan sites that talk about the CEO as if he were both God and their best friend? There aren't any others. That's one of the reasons apple ranks highly in consumer satisfaction because no matter how many problems they have with their apple products they, won't admit it. You're a good example of this rabid loyalty. You have four posts on this forum and they're all in defense of poor Apple.
Look, I own Apple products, but I don't worship at the feet of Steve Jobs. My apple computer has had just as many freezes as my PC. They piece their products together with off the shelf parts like every other manufacturer.
As an informed consumer, I'm not loyal to any company. I'm loyal to myself.
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- 09-26-08, 06:09 PM #25
First off I don't bash the Iphone. Two, I agree with most of your post. But do NOT sit here and tell me the Iphone is the reason behind the Storm. As much as I hate to say, the 95xx has been in development since the same time as the 1st Gen Iphone. Nor is it a clone. Other than that, you got it right.