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    Default Ouch! Why you should always back-up your Storm

    Hello,

    So I have a BB Storm. I've been running an older OS (4.0.0.181) for awhile now. I started getting alot of issues where I would have to click the screen multiple times just to press a button, etc. Lots of little glitches and bugs. Late last night I decided to install the new 4.7.0.148.

    All I did was install the new OS on my desktop, deleted the old vendor.xml file. After the installation was complete, I plugged in my Storm and the new OS started to install.

    Everything went great until the phone restarted itself. Got the infamous 'Reload Software 507' error.

    I searched through this forum quite a bit and tried a few different walkthroughs, including the 'plug it and click next while it says PIN: Unknown' trick. Unfortunately I kept getting a "No OS is installed on your device" error. So last case scenario I busted out the JL wipe utility. I wiped my device and was able to successfully install the new OS.

    The new OS is awesome! It's like night/day compared to my older OS. Very smooth, fast and works well. However I lost all of my contacts, E-mails, Messages, etc. For some reason I thought all that stuff was stored to the Sim Card and not Device Memory.

    I'm paying for it now. I literally had over 450 contacts (this is my business phone). However I know it was my mistake and I have nobody to blame but myself. I even did a search on my computer for backup files as I could have sworn there were some from earlier dates, but I could find none.


    Just thought Id share
    Last edited by BlackReef; 09-02-2009 at 04:31 PM.
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    ouch. no .IPD files at all, that sucks
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    Far as i know 4.0.0.181 is simply platform for version 4.7.0.148 (see options>about).
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    I'd suggest using GoogleSync even if you're not a Gmail user.

    At the least, you'll have your contacts saved (wirelessly in the background I might add) to a Google account.

    If you happen to have an iPod Touch, merely syncing the iPod can actually (if you have it set up that way) sync ALL your email accounts.

    Which means whatever is on my Storm (contacts-wise), is automatically saved into my Gmail account, my Yahoo account, my Address Book on the Mac, and of course, my iPod Touch.

    Now that's a whopper of a backup without even touching Desktop Manager
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    So is the OP just doing some really good drugs or what?

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    Ok..making a backup is part of the install it would have done it for you. I'm fairly certain if you goto my documents folder you'll find a backup. I've reloaded my os with every leak. I've used both dm and the loader wiped and not wiped both ways have always made a backup.

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    sorry to hear that man
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    Thanks for the replies guys. Should I move to .191? Is it a major improvement over the OS I just installed?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackReef View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys. Should I move to .191? Is it a major improvement over the OS I just installed?

    Thanks

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    Depends what you're looking for.

    If you don't use streaming apps, .151 is probably the best OS.

    If you do use streaming apps and are careful with what else you install, you could probably stick with .148

    If you're not particularly into apps in general and don't use the camera, .191 is phenomenal. Much faster than the other 2 and with flick scrolling/threaded SMS. Keyboard lag is nonexistent. If they tweak .191 so that the camera is functional and the apps are compatible, THIS is the OS that should've shipped with the phone. Very impressive.
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    BTW my point was it seems u already had v4.7.0.148 on ur device (4.0.0.181 is platform).
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmallchild View Post
    Depends what you're looking for.

    If you don't use streaming apps, .151 is probably the best OS.

    If you do use streaming apps and are careful with what else you install, you could probably stick with .148

    If you're not particularly into apps in general and don't use the camera, .191 is phenomenal. Much faster than the other 2 and with flick scrolling/threaded SMS. Keyboard lag is nonexistent. If they tweak .191 so that the camera is functional and the apps are compatible, THIS is the OS that should've shipped with the phone. Very impressive.
    Thanks for this info. So the .191 doesn't have a Camera feature? And I don't really use any Streaming Apps, the only one I use is Slacker Radio but I don't even use that hardly anymore. Considering I don't use any Streaming Apps, would you say the upgrade from .148 to .151 is worth it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transfigured View Post
    BTW my point was it seems u already had v4.7.0.148 on ur device (4.0.0.181 is platform).
    What do you mean? The 4.0.0.181 was installed many months ago, and the 4.7.0.148 OS I installed is much better/different than the 4.0.0.181
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    Using Google Sync is a great idea, even if only for backup purposes. I do happen to use Gmail, Google Calendar, etc, but you could easily use it just for backup. I even sync my Outlook calendar at work to my Google Calendar, then use Google Sync to my phone. That way I have work meetings on my phone, but I in no way have to connect my phone to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackReef View Post
    What do you mean? The 4.0.0.181 was installed many months ago, and the 4.7.0.148 OS I installed is much better/different than the 4.0.0.181
    the storm never had a 4.0.0 OS it was shipped way back in November 08 with 4.7.0.65 and the versions have evolved through both beta and official since then. what you are referring to (as was stated earlier) is the platform number of 4.7.0.148. Each OS has three identification number strings attached to it.

    A RIM OS has three version numbers:

    Application (4.7.0.148)
    Application is basically everything that the phone does. From the SMS App, to BlackBerry Messenger, it is composed of all the applications that comes by default on your BlackBerry.

    It is also the number people usualy refer to when talking about an OS release. In case of the latest Verizon update, it is 4.7.0.148.

    Platform (4.0.0.181)

    The platform is basically the "drivers" to the OS. It is the layer responsible of communicating commands to the hardware. It controls the cell phone radio, screen display, power regulation, camera (hardware) as well as the bluetooth radio. It is commonly refered to as the radio file on CrackBerry.

    In case of Verizon's latest release, the platform number is 4.0.0.181.

    Package (4.7.0.203)

    RIM develops applications and platform separately. When they decide to put the two together for testing, they give the combo a version number. This is the package number. Arguably, this should be number used to refer to a particular OS number, but convention uses the application number instead.

    In case of Verizon's latest release, the package version is 4.7.0.203.

    When two releases have the same package number, it is safe to assume that they are the exact same release. The leaked version of the Verizon's release has the same package number, therefore it is the same.

    There is also another number reported in your about screen:

    Branding Version

    The Branding Version changes from phone to phone and doesn't change on an OS update. Is will always be the same on your phone. Branding is saved on special memory while in factory.

    The version number is formated the following way:
    1.0.XXX.YYY

    Where XXX is your Vendor ID and YYY is the Revision Number. Here are possible Vendor IDs (That I know of):
    001 Research In Motion
    100 T-Mobile US
    101 AWS
    102 Cingular Wireless or AT&T
    103 Nextel
    104 Sprint PCS
    105 Verizon
    106 Alltel
    107 Rogers
    109 Bell Mobility Canada
    111 MM02 DE
    113 Telfort
    114 T-Mobile DE/AU
    115 TIM
    116 Hutchison
    117 Bouygues
    118 SFR
    119 Orange_France
    120 VODAFONE (UK)
    121 Telcel
    122 Telstra
    123 T-Mobile (UK)
    124 Vodafone Germany
    125 MM02 UK/IRL/NL
    126 Telus
    127 SMART
    128 Starhub
    129 Telefonica
    130 Swisscom
    131 Cable & Wireless
    132 Vodafone (IT)
    133 Vodafone (ES)
    134 T-Mobile (NL)
    135 Cincinnati Bell
    136 Telefonica_LAM
    137 Vodafone Austria
    138 Vodafone Australia
    139 Vodafone Ireland
    140 Vodafone Sweden
    141 CSL
    142 Orange UK
    143 Vodafone New Zealand
    144 SingTel
    145 Globe
    146 Optus
    147 Orange Mobistar
    148 Vodafone_HU
    149 Bharti
    150 KPN
    151 TIM_Greece
    152 Proximus
    153 Vodafone_Portugal
    154 TIM_Brazil
    155 BT_Mobile
    156 Earthlink
    158 E-Plus
    159 BASE
    160 Dobson
    161 Vodafone_Egypt
    162 Orange_Switzerland
    164 Triton
    165 Maxis
    166 Vodafone_Denmark_(TDC)
    167 MobileOne_(Voda_Singapore)
    168 Vodacom
    169 T-Mobile_PO
    170 T-Mobile_CZ
    171 T-Mobile_HU
    173 MTN
    174 Entel
    175 Amena
    176 SmarTone
    177 TCS
    178 Avea
    179 F100
    180 Turkcell
    181 Partner
    183 Orange_Global
    186 Telkomsel
    188 Vodafone_Greece
    189 USCC
    190 Mobilink
    194 Voda_Luxembourg
    195 Voda_Iceland
    198 Vodafone_CZ
    204 China_Mobile
    205 Movilnet
    209 Sympac
    210 TIM_Argentina
    212 Etisalat
    214 AMX
    215 Telefonica_Venezuela
    217 Orange Romania
    218 KTP
    222 Mobitel Bulgaria
    224 PCCW/Sunday
    227 Mobily
    229 Eurotel
    230 Hutchison Essar


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