4g and the effect to storm!
- so I've been hearing about 4G LTE and was wondering how it will effect the storm and operations. will the storm work faster or be left behind.11-25-09 04:32 PMLike 0
- Nope. The storm will not be able to take advantage of it. Unless a lte version is released which will most likely be the storm 3 ( Mr T)
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-25-09 04:57 PMLike 0 -
- I know its been talked about before and I believe people who are in the know have stated that it will more than likely not work. I don't believe it has the hardware capable of handling the new network. I could be wroNg though, its been known to happen.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-25-09 05:27 PMLike 0 -
- the storm will be exactly as it is now. It will run on the 3G network. It will not be able to connect to the 4G network because it does not have the hardware to do so. Verizon will be running 3G and 4G concurrently. Storm owners won't notice a difference. If you want to take advantage of the 4G network (which will be in limited areas at launch) then you'll have to buy a 4G phone.11-25-09 06:47 PMLike 0
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- the storm will be exactly as it is now. It will run on the 3G network. It will not be able to connect to the 4G network because it does not have the hardware to do so. Verizon will be running 3G and 4G concurrently. Storm owners won't notice a difference. If you want to take advantage of the 4G network (which will be in limited areas at launch) then you'll have to buy a 4G phone.11-26-09 12:20 AMLike 0
- well when Verizon releases 4g rim better be ready for the 100Mbps if not then they may loos a lot of unhappy campers.11-26-09 04:47 AMLike 0
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As for the Storm working on LTE, No. Only phones designed to work on LTE will do so. Verizon is going to be using the 700 MHz bandwith they bought that was leftover after the digital TV transition. So the radio of the phone has to be designed to work on that bandwith. Maybe once people jump off the 3G network and on to the 4G, you will see a little increase in speed on 3G because the network will be less congested. But that is a big maybe.11-26-09 08:12 AMLike 0 - Isn't LTE going to roll out around Q4 2010, so it will still take a little while. And if I remember correctly, end of 2010 is when it will be available but 2011 is when we will start to see USB modems take advantage of it and around Q2-Q3 or 2011 is when phone will take advantage of it.11-26-09 08:20 AMLike 0
- Note the reference to Google mid-article. Rollout dates at the end. This is the same timeline VZW discussed this Summer, although there have been rumors of push backs.
Verizon Wireless Talks LTE Collaboration - Reiterates the 'all-at-once' roll-out strategy - Softpedia11-26-09 08:32 AMLike 0 - 100Mbps? LTE won't even be close. We won't see speeds like that in the wireless industry for a while. LTE lab tests have shown download speeds of around 50Mbps. However, once the technology is in the real world with millions of subscribers on the network Verizon expects download speeds of 5Mbps to 12Mbps. You may see spikes near 20Mbps but that is about it. Still pretty damn fast for a wireless device. My cable broadband internet at home is 5Mbps download.
As for the Storm working on LTE, No. Only phones designed to work on LTE will do so. Verizon is going to be using the 700 MHz bandwith they bought that was leftover after the digital TV transition. So the radio of the phone has to be designed to work on that bandwith. Maybe once people jump off the 3G network and on to the 4G, you will see a little increase in speed on 3G because the network will be less congested. But that is a big maybe.11-26-09 01:11 PMLike 0 - Umn it seems most here never read hw spec sheets.
Both the s1 & s2 have a dual qualcom chipset attached to quad band radios with FULL LTE SUPPORT.
Meaning the phones support 4g.
While NDAs prevent my posting screenshots.... I can personally attest to "lab" storms I use on a 4g network working quite nicely at +100mbits
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11-26-09 03:48 PMLike 0 - Originally Posted by [email protected]Umn it seems most here never read hw spec sheets.
Both the s1 & s2 have a dual qualcom chipset attached to quad band radios with FULL LTE SUPPORT.
Meaning the phones support 4g.
While NDAs prevent my posting screenshots.... I can personally attest to "lab" storms I use on a 4g network working quite nicely at +100mbits
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-26-09 04:56 PMLike 0 - what I know about this is that LTE will be in many major markets by end of 2010 and rumor has it that S3 is in development and will be LTE. As far as hardware specs go please supply a link to specs that show S1 or S2 can pick up 700 mhz. The challenge will come in with RIM's baxkbone being able to support the speeds. it costs a lot to run the pipes into Canada.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-26-09 08:02 PMLike 0 - Here's what I grabbed from the Qualcomm web site:
...the MDM9200� and the MDM9600� chipsets are the industry's first multi-mode 3G/Long Term Evolution (LTE) solutions....the MDM9600 supports CDMA2000� 1X, EV-DO Rev. B, SV-DO, SV-LTE, UMTS, HSPA+ and LTE....Commercial launches of data-centric devices based on Qualcomm's MDM solutions are expected to begin during the second half of 2010...
The foregoing comes straight from the source and the S1/S2 have the MSM7600, not one of those mentioned in the italicized text above. Not sure where "lords" gets his info but, unless he can show it's from The Lord, I'd tend to doubt its accuracy.11-26-09 08:19 PMLike 0 - Yeah, without proof I have a hard time believe what Lords is saying. I am not sure where I would even find the spec sheets he is referring to (I am not techy enough to understand all that stuff anyway). But I do know that Verizon's LTE will run on the 700 MHz bandwith and I have never seen anything that shows that the Storm is capable of picking that up.11-26-09 09:02 PMLike 0
- From Verizon:
LTE Performance and Benefits
LTE technology will help Verizon Wireless deliver a mobile broadband
experience with significantly increased throughput, low latency and mediarich
capabilities to customers. Verizon Wireless customers will also
experience security and privacy protection.
� Verizon Wireless carefully evaluated and benchmarked all 4G
technologies (including UMB, WiMAX, and LTE). LTE was selected
because of global scale advantages, a healthy vendor ecosystem, and
widespread roaming potential.
� LTE will deliver unprecedented wireless broadband service for high
performance computing, multi-media, and consumer electronic devices
and applications.
� LTE enables Verizon Wireless to continue to meet business customer
demands for a higher bandwidth, low latency service that works broadly
in the United States and globally.
� LTE will allow Verizon Wireless to meet customer demand for
mobilizing the many applications they frequently use when tethered to
high bandwidth wired networks.
� Specific average user throughput speeds will depend on several
variables that will be evaluated during trials. Initially, the estimated
average user throughput speeds are 5-12 Mbps downlink and 2-5
Mbps uplink.
� LTE standards will ultimately result in more services and a better
experience for Verizon Wireless� growing customer base that is driven
by an improvement in two-way data speeds.
� LTE is also expected to lead to more global benefits for customers,
including simpler, smoother international data roaming capabilities.
Implementation
� Verizon Wireless recently completed field tests of LTE, moving into the
final phases of testing in mid 2009. In 2010, Verizon Wireless will
launch LTE in 25-30 markets nationally.
Q: Will customers be able to use their current devices on the LTE network?
A: As Verizon Wireless introduces new services that utilize the LTE network,
customers will need to purchase new devices to take advantage of them.
Q: What kind of devices will be available?
A: LTE will allow for more than just handsets - Ultra-mobile PCs,
Netbooks, Mobile Internet Devices, navigation devices, game consoles,
and cameras, to name a few.
Q: Will Verizon Wireless devices require SIM cards?
A: Yes, LTE devices will require the use of SIM cards.
Q: How will Verizon Wireless customers be impacted?
A: Advanced LTE-based wireless networks will support exciting new
applications that business and consumers can today only access through
high-speed wireline networks. In addition to simply faster e-mail and
Internet access and better quality video services, wireless users will be able
to take applications they are accustomed to using at home or in the office
into the mobile world; roaming on other global LTE networks will provide
portability to take those applications around the world. LTE also offers the
possibility of providing coverage in some rural areas not currently serviced
by wireless or wired broadband. Most importantly, a wide-area wireless
LTE network will be able to connect a full range of machine-to-machine
applications as well as consumer electronic devices.
Q: Will LTE be backwards compatible with EV-DO?
A: The initial launch of LTE will include tri-mode (LTE, CDMA & GSM)
devices which will allow data hand-offs to 3G networks where appropriate.
Q: Will customers have to buy LTE devices directly from Verizon Wireless?
A: Verizon Wireless will continue to offer high quality devices to its
customers. Customers will also have the option of bringing their own LTE
devices to use with their Verizon Wireless plan as long as they meet
Verizon Wireless� network specifications.11-26-09 09:11 PMLike 0
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