[mhw100]

I'm on the Rogers network on Vancouver Island with a -3 Q10. We don't have LTE here yet and I can't seem to get a straight answer from Rogers if 2600 LTE is coming to the Island. If they only implement a lower LTE frequency here then does that mean my Q10 won't get LTE at all? Isn't this the same issue that the US users were experiencing and therefore required a -1 device?

[Kris Simundson]

I'm on the Rogers network on Vancouver Island with a -3 Q10. We don't have LTE here yet and I can't seem to get a straight answer from Rogers if 2600 LTE is coming to the Island. If they only implement a lower LTE frequency here then does that mean my Q10 won't get LTE at all? Isn't this the same issue that the US users were experiencing and therefore required a -1 device?

Yes this is correct, if they don't release a 2600MHz band than you won't receive LTE

http://docs.blackberry.com/en/smartp...9158831-en.pdf
SQN100-1 Mobile network radio specifications:•
Quad-band LTE support: LTE 700, LTE 850, LTE 1700, LTE 1900 MHz band•
Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
Tri-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 800/UMTS 850, UMTS 1900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, IMT 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 704 to 716 MHz, LTE 824 to 849 MHz, LTE 1710 to 1755 MHz•
Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, IMT 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 734 to 746 MHz, LTE 2110 to 2155Wi-

http://docs.blackberry.com/en/smartp...9158831-en.pdf
SQN100-3 Mobile network radio specifications:•
Quad-band LTE support: LTE 800, LTE 900, LTE 1800, LTE 2600 MHz band•
Quad-band GSM support: GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900 MHz•
Quad-band HSPA+ support: UMTS 800/UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 1900, UMTS 2100 MHz band•
Power class: Class 1 (DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 4 (GSM 850) as defined in GSM 5.05, Class 4 (GSM 900) as defined in GSM 02.06, Class E2 (GSM 850, GSM 900, DCS 1800, PCS 1900), Class 3 (UMTS, LTE)•
Transmitting frequency: GSM 824 to 849 MHz, GSM 880 to 915 MHz, DCS 1710 to 1785 MHz, PCS 1850 to 1910 MHz, IMT 1920 to 1980 MHz, LTE 832 to 862 MHz, LTE 2500 to 2570 MHz•
Receiving frequency: GSM 869 to 894 MHz, GSM 925 to 960 MHz, DCS 1805 to 1880 MHz, PCS 1930 to 1990 MHz, IMT 2110 to 2170 MHz, LTE 791 to 821 MHz, LTE 2620 to 2690Wi-

[mhw100]

That's a bit scary because unless you ask, Rogers will only ship the -3. If I was already in a 2600 market then it wouldn't be an issue but given LTE hasn't yet been deployed to this market, there could be a problem. I'm thinking I better return it.

Is the reverse true i.e. if they do deploy the 2600 freqency then does that mean that the -1 won't work?

[Kris Simundson]

That's a bit scary because unless you ask, Rogers will only ship the -3. If I was already in a 2600 market then it wouldn't be an issue but given LTE hasn't yet been deployed to this market, there could be a problem. I'm thinking I better return it.

Is the reverse true i.e. if they do deploy the 2600 freqency then does that mean that the -1 won't work?

The reverse is true if you look at the LTE bands covered

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[mhw100]

That's what I thought. So there really isn't any way to know if one should buy the -3 or -1 if it hasn't yet been deployed to this market. Now I don't what to do given Rogers won't say what is actually coming here. There doesn't appear to be any way to bulletproof the decision short of getting the -5 which Rogers doesn't sell.

[Kris Simundson]

That's what I thought. So there really isn't any way to know if one should buy the -3 or -1 if it hasn't yet been deployed to this market. Now I don't what to do given Rogers won't say what is actually coming here. There doesn't appear to be any way to bulletproof the decision short of getting the -5 which Rogers doesn't sell.

It's my biggest thing when I go to buy one because no LTE in manitoba yet don't know what network tech they are going to bring. I'll probably just take the plunge on the SQN100-3

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[mhw100]

I hear you. What do iphone user's on Rogers do then? They only have the 700mhz which means they will likely never get LTE on Rogers if the user lives in a major city which is 2600.

[Morten]

Does Rogers provide HSPA+ in addition to LTE?

If they do, which bands? Most devices supports HSPA+ band 5/6

[Kris Simundson]

Does Rogers provide HSPA+ in addition to LTE?

If they do, which bands? Most devices supports HSPA+ band 5/6

Yes Rogers does provide HSPA+ and it's bands 5/6/7 I believe but i'm probably wrong since I'm going off memory

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[robsteve]

Rogers also supports other bands than the 2600 LTE, otherwise the Z10 wouldn't get LTE in 2600 markets. The 2600 is a bonus for people lucky enough to have it since it is the faster channel, with few users using the bandwidth.

Rogers ships the phone compatible to your area, so I wouldn't worry about having the SQN100-3.

[mhw100]

There is no compatibility right now as its not deployed. Also, the other frequencies they have don't come bundled in thr -3, only in the -1 per the above chart. 1700 and 2600 are the 2 rogers frequencies and they are on different phones. A order desk clerk in Toronto doesn't know any of this and blindly ship the -3.

[Henry Jr]

I'm in Ontario on Rogers and have a -3. So I have the ideal model?

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[yyzkevin]

We ordered two phones, the one picked up at the store was an SQN100-3 and the one shipped from rogers was a SQN100-1

have not done any extensive comparison yet, but there have been situations where one is reporting LTE and the other is reporting 4G.

are both the SQN100-1 and SQN100-3 both considered to be "LTE MAX" ?

[Kris Simundson]

SQN100-3 LTE Max

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[Morten]

SQN100-3 LTE Max

Sigh - more re-branding of LTE services... I hope that one day the carriers will call a spade a spade and stop all the fancywording

[yyzkevin]

LTE Max refers to national network deployment of dual frequency 2600 & 2100 MHz bands, deployment of 2x20MHz spectrum blocks and high concentration of cell sites within LTE coverage area. Fastest based on tests comparing download speed vs. Bell and Telus' LTE networks and largest based on comparing respective network deployment of 2600&2100MHz/ 2x20MHz blocks. LTE Max enabled device, LTE SIM and plan required. Actual experienced speeds may vary based on device, topography and environmental conditions, network congestion and other factors. Visit Rogers.com/LTEmax for coverage details

I guess this is why they re able to advertise the Q10 as being LTE MAX without clearly elaborating on the fact that there are two different models that support different bands, which it seems it is a roll of the dice what model you get.

[mhw100]

The alternative is to buy a Telus or Bell which is -1 and know for certain you will get LTE on their network.

[surgeon1919]

Here's a recent SQN100-3 speed test on Rogers in the Montreal area. I've been trying to compare regular LTE versus the SQN100-3 and reception seems about the same. Reception is my main concern.

I don't get all the fuss about having LTE while on vacation in the USA or elsewhere. With roaming charges being as high as they are and roaming packages barely offering any data, LTE is the last thing on my mind.

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[anon(1049620)]

Here's a recent SQN100-3 speed test on Rogers in the Montreal area. I've been trying to compare regular LTE versus the SQN100-3 and reception seems about the same. Reception is my main concern.

I don't get all the fuss about having LTE while on vacation in the USA or elsewhere. With roaming charges being as high as they are and roaming packages barely offering any data, LTE is the last thing on my mind.

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Hey,

What happens in the US then? HSPA+?

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[Real Doc_B]

I'm on Vancouver Island too and LTE (using the 1700/2100 MHz frequencies on Rogers) is available here. I'm not sure if the 2600 MHz frequency is used on the island for LTE. If not, I don't think the SQN100-3 would be able to get LTE.

You can call Rogers and have them ship a SQN100-1 out to you (or see if the stores have them).

BTW, I have a SQN100-1 and I do get LTE out here in Victoria. I don't think that LTE is available north of the Malahat, but I've heard that the 1700/2100 MHz frequencies would also be available wherever the 2600 MHz is available. I think getting the SQN100-1 would cover you quite well.

[mhw100]

I'm on Vancouver Island too and LTE (using the 1700/2100 MHz frequencies on Rogers) is available here. I'm not sure if the 2600 MHz frequency is used on the island for LTE. If not, I don't think the SQN100-3 would be able to get LTE.

You can call Rogers and have them ship a SQN100-1 out to you (or see if the stores have them).

BTW, I have a SQN100-1 and I do get LTE out here in Victoria. I don't think that LTE is available north of the Malahat, but I've heard that the 1700/2100 MHz frequencies would also be available wherever the 2600 MHz is available. I think getting the SQN100-1 would cover you quite well.

[mhw100]

Have the -3 so we'll see if they're put it in Nanaimo.

[Spinal]

Here's a recent SQN100-3 speed test on Rogers in the Montreal area. I've been trying to compare regular LTE versus the SQN100-3 and reception seems about the same. Reception is my main concern.

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wow and i thought my speedtest was fast, and im in toronto too.

[altrax]

I have the -3 and I'm in nanaimo as well.

I was in Victoria last night and confirm that I got LTE coverage...

So they have deployed 2600 LTE on the island (so we don't have to worry)

Rogers just added 2600 LTE to parksville nanaimo can't be far off

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[mhw100]

Thanks for that.