- 02-09-13, 06:32 AM #76
- 02-09-13, 06:40 AM #77
My problem lies in them calming everyone down when the analyst said the phone is coming out in March only for him to be correct.
My problem lies in them saying the q10 would come out within two weeks of the z10 not two-three months.
My problem lies in Thor only having two phones to worry about and not even being able to get them to the public in a timely manner even after delaying so many times.
Lastly, my problem lies in Thor having his main launch in New York and no one in New York has the ability to get the phone till late March -June.
They never stated two weeks and while 2 months is later than they would have liked, it probably reflects a desire to ensure these launches go well when they happen.
Only two phones is irrelevant as the crucial thing was making sure bb10 was right.
The New York thing was clearly a political move to show they were not ignoring the states even with their carriers being useless, if they had not included them in the launch events then the media would have painted it as them snubbing america.
- 02-09-13, 10:02 AM #78
It's gotta be the Carrier's undoing there. This is beyond Blackberry's control. How can Blackberry manage to do a sequential launch on different countries in a span of one month if the devices were not put to testing at the same time?
About the launch sequence, it's more tactical to create buzz to launch elsewhere than attacking US firsthand; starting in the place with UK as a BB Country (they need the money to launch to another place among other costs). Assuming Blackberry did manage to get crazy sales elsewhere (or around US), this probably will entice the attention of everyone in US. It's no secret that BB is already nearly disregarded in the US, so why not have it knocking loud the US along with with proven satisfaction elsewhere. Also, I have to gut feeling that BB is rather trying to be precise than rushed; it probably would use everyone else to somehow evaluate the Z10 and then do some fixes before they launch at US. It's up to them how they judge the ramifications of releasing too early or too late.
At least at this point, T-Mobile is willing to carry the device ahead of the competition (assuming they DO want it finished soonest). I don't know the preference of Americans regarding T-Mo but at least there's one in there who's willing to serve it first.
- 02-09-13, 02:59 PM #79
- 02-09-13, 04:57 PM #80
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02-09-13, 06:11 PM #83
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- 02-09-13, 06:24 PM #84
I thought BB was dead already???
is this another 'nail in the coffin'?
This is getting funnier and funnier every day with people calling for BBs demise but it just never happens. Why dont people go whinge about some companies that are actually in trouble?
Their cash keeps growing. They just released a dynamite product. Don't people tire of being wrong all the time?
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02-09-13, 10:36 PM #85
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No, you are not the only one pissed. I am for sure, battling my iPhone friends for months and to get disappointed at launch was a real let down. I am true BB supporter, but I can only wait so long, Not going to get an iPhone, but I may start looking at droids.
- 02-10-13, 12:38 AM #86
Incidently, it wouldn't matter of course, even if he didn't. It wouldn't make his comments any less valid, or lessen his right to make them. I know this is a common argument tactic on the internet (and in certain circles in real-life), but in most contexts it's irrational to the point of being meaningless.
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02-10-13, 08:41 AM #89
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- 02-10-13, 08:58 AM #91
- 02-10-13, 09:18 AM #93
I have it on good authority that the US doesn't have the Z10 yet because the US carriers truly were not interested in putting BlackBerry in their rotation. Simple as that.
Does anyone really believe all this 'delays in testing' nonsense? Is it believable that not one of the carriers from one of the worlds most powerful economies can't put a cell phone out at the same release time as much smaller (pop.) country carriers?
T. Heins is simply being nice by not flat out saying that the US carriers are completely at fault. He's not about to publicly burn those bridges.
If anyone should 'lose face' it would be the US carriers, not BlackBerry.
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- 02-10-13, 09:21 AM #94
re: Blackberry lost face on product release
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02-10-13, 09:34 AM #95
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Huh? The whole thread is about delay in US. It's selling fine elsewhere and making money for Blackberry just fine. I was commenting on the constant whining because of the fact that some people have to wait few more weeks to get their hands on them.
We waited few years for these phones, few more weeks ain't gonna kill ya.
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02-10-13, 09:57 AM #97
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Blackberry has bigger problems than another delay. If the Z10, aka the Akwardberry is the best they can do the company is toast! The street response to the Awkwardberry would be something akin to 'Is that all you got son?!' A gimmicky 'Hub', aka holding down the Blackberry key on the 9900? C'mon, massive fail.
The entire business is riding on the Q10 I believe. While a % of the loyalists (50% perhaps?) find the Z10 acceptable, that will do nothing to stem the tide of defectors to iOS and Android products. The army of lawyers, bankers, govt & other corporate organizations that haven't switched platforms were not holding out for the Awkardbery. They want a competent KEYBOARD based smartphone that can browse the web properly, take some decent photos without crashing & ya, downloaded many of the popular applications that everyone else has. That's it! Depending on how the Q10 ingrates the shortcuts and simplicity of the old OS into the BB10 + keyboard they might have a chance at holding on to a base and surviving as a company that is a fraction of the size. They will probably morph into a Q10 only hardware business and then license BES to companies that have switched to Apple might want security and better messaging.
Blackberry absolutely needs the US market to survive. They aren't making any money in Indonesia & Africa where people are using recycled phones and $10/month BBM plans. Get serious.
Let's hope the Q10 delivers.
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