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- Yes. Some apps leave security holes when they are removed from your device. Facebook Messenger is one of them.
You should do a factory data reset.07-30-16 06:33 PMLike 0 - Seriously. There are apps that can be installed that compromise the device and its security. And you have to do a factory data reset? Exactly what is lost during such a reset? All apps need to be restored? Settings? Accounts? The Google backup/restore will accomplish recovery?07-30-16 08:00 PMLike 0
- Seriously. There are apps that can be installed that compromise the device and its security. And you have to do a factory data reset? Exactly what is lost during such a reset? All apps need to be restored? Settings? Accounts? The Google backup/restore will accomplish recovery?FF22 likes this.07-30-16 08:43 PMLike 1
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- Sounds like DTEK is doing exactly as it was supposed to do then! Good thing you were using a Priv instead of something else!
Posted via the CrackBerry App for AndroidLast edited by ajwan; 07-30-16 at 09:22 PM.
deadcowboy and vpblaze like this.07-30-16 08:54 PMLike 2 - Clearing the cache will not do it.
Don't load or use Facefart, especially messenger. I caught it doing this over a month ago on my Priv and will never load that Spyware on anything I own again.
This is exactly why DTEK is on the phone and is valuable. It's also probably why so many spying firms hate BlackBerry - - they get caught.
Do the hard reset. It's the only way to seal the breach.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for AndroidDavid Tyler and chuckiev79 like this.07-30-16 09:20 PMLike 2 - Clearing the cache will not do it.
Don't load or use Facefart, especially messenger. I caught it doing this over a month ago on my Priv and will never load that Spyware on anything I own again.
This is exactly why DTEK is on the phone and is valuable. It's also probably why so many spying firms hate BlackBerry - - they get caught.
Do the hard reset. It's the only way to seal the breach.
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Posted with my shiny new PrivDavid Tyler and Bucky2016 like this.07-30-16 09:55 PMLike 2 - For those blaming facebook and messenger I'm just wondering how you came to the conclusion? Not saying it's not the case but I'm just wondering as both apps are on my Priv and Dtek has never shown OS to be compromised for me.
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android07-30-16 10:49 PMLike 6 -
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- See just uninstalling an app shouldnt trigger this type of thing and recommend a complete wipe. just my opinion, but something pretty severe needs to happen to recommend that.07-31-16 12:06 AMLike 3
- OmnitechDragon SlayerClearing the cache will not do it.
Don't load or use Facefart, especially messenger. I caught it doing this over a month ago on my Priv and will never load that Spyware on anything I own again.
This is exactly why DTEK is on the phone and is valuable. It's also probably why so many spying firms hate BlackBerry - - they get caught.
Do the hard reset. It's the only way to seal the breach.
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Karl, for someone with your technical background I'm surprised at such a proclamation without any kind of technical foundation.
We already know Dtek is mostly designed to cry wolf without doing a heck of a lot, so what do you suppose one of the most popular apps on the planet, which has been tested more than almost any other app extant, is doing here exactly?
Of course Facebook's entire M.O. revolves around data collection - but O/S compromise??
I'd sure as heck want a better explanation of what is going on than that, personally.1122334455667788 and andy957 like this.07-31-16 02:09 AMLike 2 - This thread is really interesting.
As I understand it, one of the reasons a BlackBerry PRIV takes so long to start is that it checks the integrity of of both the hardware and software by generating a checksum, which is then compared with a value from BlackBerry. If it fails, you get that message.
I did a quick search and couldn't find anyone else who has discussed this specifically with reference with Facebook. I'm very curious to know exactly what modifications Facebook or messenger makes.
However, I found this article that specifically mentions (at the end) that Facebook messenger, in order to integrate SMS, modifies the OS. http://www.apextribune.com/facebook-...device/215319/
Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android (Priv)damien kupuku likes this.07-31-16 08:27 AMLike 1 -
For whatever reason, the OS seems to fail some type of checksum test after removing Messenger.07-31-16 08:29 AMLike 0 - That's of course possible. Likewise it could be real, but completely benign. But then again, it may actually be an issue.
Since we'll never really know, I would think we need to error on the side of caution and do the factory reset.07-31-16 08:49 AMLike 0 -
- Conclusion: we abadonded OS10 to be able to use facebook and other crappy apps in order to find out out that they are messing with the OS so we should not be using them in the first place.
Now everybody go back to the abandoned OS10.
Oooops, you can't...
You were crying that you don't want it because it does not have crappy apps.
PS: start bashing. I don't give a rat's back end.
Nothing like my SE.07-31-16 11:43 AMLike 10 -
We already know Dtek is mostly designed to cry wolf without doing a heck of a lot
DTEK is designed to DETECT. It does so by verifying the cryptographic checksums on OS components, as does the secure boot process. If those are compromised then it raises hell, and that's what it should do. It is simply not possible without deep, time-consuming and expensive analysis to know *exactly* what was changed or why, nor does it matter. What matters is that a change occurred to a system resource that has a security implication and it should not have happened.
... so what do you suppose one of the most popular apps on the planet, which has been tested more than almost any other app extant, is doing here exactly?
Whether that compromise is malicious or accidental doesn't matter; that it occurred, and thus the OS is no longer in the as-delivered, secured state, is what matters.
A failed cryptographic checksum is a big, fat red warning flag. You're free to ignore it if you wish but IMHO you're crazy to do so, or to use any firm's products, ESPECIALLY A LARGE CORPORATION'S PRODUCTS, that cause that to happen.
Why? Because we have a repeated, decades-long history of large corporations flaunting laws, including felony laws, and at worst they get fined. Nobody ever goes to prison for doing so. For this reason IF the compromise is intentional and IF it is malicious (yes, I know that's two "ifs") THEN whatever is being done, when it is finally run down and exposed, the responsible parties WILL NOT face the same sanction you or I would if we did the same thing. That is a FACT and must go into your calculation of risk.
Of course Facebook's entire M.O. revolves around data collection - but O/S compromise??
That may not be what is going on, and in fact it's a minority possibility, but that possibility certainly exists and given the fact that if it IS what's going on you will never have any recourse to the law IMHO you're a fool to allow such a piece of software on your phone.
BTW if you think vendors don't write their code to be far more aggressive if they think they won't get caught in their data collection you're wrong. I have a long list of VPN-intercepted traces from various apps that behave very differently on Android 5 .vs. 6; in the former, of course, you can't individually shut off permissions while in the latter you can. The *same* APK file will often behave very differently when it is on a system where you can slam the door in its face as opposed to having no choice -- so do not believe for a second that vendors are unaware of the different environments that exist in the world of user devices and adjust behavior accordingly. They do.
I'd sure as heck want a better explanation of what is going on than that, personally.
Go ahead and trust Zuckerburglar if you wish. I do not, because I know from a long line of acts by both large firms and our government that there is no Rule of Law remaining when it comes to large corporate actors in this nation. There are literally dozens of large firms that have been caught violating felony laws on a serial, repetitive basis (indeed virtually all of the large banks are "three strikes" offenders or worse) without a single person ever being indicted or imprisoned and as a result even if the intrusion is intentional (which would be a serious criminal offense nobody will go to prison for having done so because of who did so, not because of what they did.
If you consider that risk to be tolerable then have at it.
I do not and IMHO if you're wise you will not.07-31-16 11:45 AMLike 8
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