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Looks like BlackBerry is doing everything it can to become completely irrelevant on the phone market.

From: Blackberry Offers 'Lawful Device Interception Capabilities' - Slashdot

... BlackBerry, however, is taking a different stance, saying it specifically supports "lawful interception capabilities" for government surveillance. BlackBerry COO Marty Beard as much at a recent IT summit.

He declined to explain how the interception works, but he denied the phones would contain "backdoors" and said governments would have no direct access to BlackBerry servers. The company may see this as a way to differentiate themselves from the competition.

Notice, how word "lawful" is used. What a joke!

[ce71]

Looks like BlackBerry is doing everything it can to become completely irrelevant on the phone market.

From: Blackberry Offers 'Lawful Device Interception Capabilities' - Slashdot



Notice, how word "lawful" is used. What a joke!

You're exaggerating.

If you read the actual article, they define �lawful" as �court-ordered�. This is no different than every other company - including all of the network carriers, phone manufacturers, and social media websites.

Given the state of today's world, I have no problem at all with this. I wanted a phone to keep me safe from people with malicious intent. I don't need to feel safe from the FBI. In fact, the last thing I want to see on the news is Blackberry phones being used by terrorists - that is not the type of publicity the company needs.

I applaud Blackberry for taking a stand.

�Encryption is very important to protect governments, business and individuals from hacking," read the statement e-mailed to FedScoop by a BlackBerry PR executive. "At the same time, no one wants to see terrorists and criminals taking advantage of encryption to evade detection. That�s why we have always strongly supported law enforcement around the world when they need our help. While we do not support so-called 'back-doors,' we and every other tech company bears a responsibility to do all we can to help governments protect their citizens.�

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[eyesopen1111]

I can�t think of a creepier way to differentiate BlackBerry products than this one. Yikes!

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ce71m "You Can't Have A Back Door That's Only For The Good Guys"

[ce71]

ce71m "You Can't Have A Back Door That's Only For The Good Guys"

You think LG, Sony, Facebook, Samsung, Microsoft, Google, and Apple do not abide by court-ordered requests? Don't be naive.

I could care less about backdoors. Sorry. I'm not foolish enough to believe any device I use is 100% secure - no matter where I'm at or who it's from.

I also have no problem with Blackberry's stance on security and assisting law enforcement. Absolutely NONE. If it's a problem for you - don't buy the phone.

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[Adam Frix]

You're exaggerating.

If you read the actual article, they define ”lawful" as ”court-ordered”. This is no different than every other company - including all of the network carriers, phone manufacturers, and social media websites.

Given the state of today's world, I have no problem at all with this. I wanted a phone to keep me safe from people with malicious intent. I don't need to feel safe from the FBI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

When the hivemind has declared you guilty, regardless of facts or circumstances, the FBI will search for and find evidence to support that conclusion.

[ce71]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

When the hivemind has declared you guilty, regardless of facts or circumstances, the FBI will search for and find evidence to support that conclusion.

Really??? OK... I'm done in this thread. You win.

Time to brace myself for the upcoming home invasion by the FBI. Oh well.

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[Adam Frix]

Really??? OK... I'm done in this thread. You win.

Time to brace myself for the upcoming home invasion by the FBI. Oh well.

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Wow. You put utter and complete faith in the people of law enforcement.

Wow.

[garpt]

Wow. You put utter and complete faith in the people of law enforcement.

Wow.

What if say, your child were kidnapped. Would you want law enforcement to be so impotent that they could not gain access to an alleged perpetrator's cell phone data to track them down? It's not "complete" faith. It's say about 97% faith. I'll take the odds.

[Adam Frix]

What if say, your child were kidnapped. Would you want law enforcement to be so impotent that they could not gain access to an alleged perpetrator's cell phone data to track them down? It's not "complete" faith. It's say about 97% faith. I'll take the odds.

When backed into a corner, always bring out "but what about the CHILDREN?".

[Granehill]

Looks like BlackBerry is doing everything it can to become completely irrelevant on the phone market.

From: Blackberry Offers 'Lawful Device Interception Capabilities' - Slashdot



Notice, how word "lawful" is used. What a joke!

Well, this is the real World. I think it's important in regards to the latest events in Europe.

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[garpt]

When backed into a corner, always bring out "but what about the CHILDREN?".

Guess I still have faith in the U.S. Justice system. Although things have been going the wrong way in the last 6-7 years.

[wutradition]

Interesting times

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[Adam Frix]

Guess I still have faith in the U.S. Justice system. Although things have been going the wrong way in the last 6-7 years.

The goal of the current "justice" system is currently to make as many people as possible into criminals, so they can better justify their jobs.

Legislators are part and parcel of this, of course. They pass all sorts of laws--in the interests of "the children!"--that take people doing ordinary things and suddenly turn them into "criminals". Because after all, if the legislators aren't passing laws, they must not be doing their jobs. Oh--but they don't pass laws that put controls on Wall Street or Big Pharma. No siree, they're paid well to avoid that kind of work. Instead, they pass laws that affect the lowly people who don't pay the legislators money to stay away.

[MGDania]

My tin foil hat is telling me the security agencies in the US pressured carriers to drop their support of BlackBerry because they could not intercept communications like they could with iOS and Android.

Now that BlackBerry is offering a less secure Android, suddenly the carriers are all jumping back on board.

Perhaps this is the only way BlackBerry can maintain its support with the carriers.

Time to add another layer of tin foil.

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[bakron1]

First of all if you honestly think that any device out there is 100% safe from any government intervention and prying eyes, your smoking some serious ****!!! Sure companies can stand up and say we are not going to cave in and allow you to have a secret backdoor access to our code, but trust me, at the end of the day they don't need to. These agencies hire the brightest minds, code crackers and programmers that the world has to offer and Mr Snowden has already showed us that.

History teaches us some valuable lessons and one example was during WWII the germans thought their encryption machines used to transmit their naval codes where 100% safe!! What they failed to realize, was the British had already cracked the device using the best encryption specialist, chess masters and crossword puzzle experts and where reading their naval code in real time. Nothing is 100% secure, period and to me life is way to short to worry about it and welcome to the digital age my friends!!!

[BCITMike]

Looks like BlackBerry is doing everything it can to become completely irrelevant on the phone market.

From: Blackberry Offers 'Lawful Device Interception Capabilities' - Slashdot



Notice, how word "lawful" is used. What a joke!

I don't know... I have tinfoil hat theory that since NSA had iOS hacked so thoroughly, they may have helped Apple's rise to stardom, and let BlackBerry fall to the wayside since they weren't. There was a comment from a director at a TLA that essentially said BlackBerry did it to themselves by being too secure, and clearly had a "read between the lines" sentiment for Apple.

So now they are playing ball, and now BlackBerry's market penetration will rise again.

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Edit: MGDania seems to know what I mean..

[qwerty4ever]

You're exaggerating.

If you read the actual article, they define �lawful" as �court-ordered�. This is no different than every other company - including all of the network carriers, phone manufacturers, and social media websites.

Given the state of today's world, I have no problem at all with this. I wanted a phone to keep me safe from people with malicious intent. I don't need to feel safe from the FBI. In fact, the last thing I want to see on the news is Blackberry phones being used by terrorists - that is not the type of publicity the company needs.

I applaud Blackberry for taking a stand.

�Encryption is very important to protect governments, business and individuals from hacking," read the statement e-mailed to FedScoop by a BlackBerry PR executive. "At the same time, no one wants to see terrorists and criminals taking advantage of encryption to evade detection. That�s why we have always strongly supported law enforcement around the world when they need our help. While we do not support so-called 'back-doors,' we and every other tech company bears a responsibility to do all we can to help governments protect their citizens.�

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Have you never heard of the FISA Court in America? Rubber stamps every warrant at a pace indicating that the Court does not read the applications. BlackBerry and Chairman Chen are government stooges.

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[anon(2325196)]

This thread ends up being about the 'Prison Industrial Complex'! Love it!

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[CarGuy1368]

Unless you're a wanted felon or a terrorist, I think you will be fine.

[Omnitech]

Have you never heard of the FISA Court in America? Rubber stamps every warrant at a pace indicating that the Court does not read the applications. BlackBerry and Chairman Chen are government stooges.

Further to that, look up "Committee of 100", the Brookings Institution and the Council on Foreign Relations. John S. Chen is a member of all of them, as well as on the boards of some of the largest corporations in the US, and is very, very well connected with the upper echelons of power in the USA, and the Western World, for that matter. (Not to mention the Eastern world. Xi Jinping, the president of China, recently congratulated the Committee of 100 for being a helpful influence on China/US relations.)

I daresay he makes the former heads of BlackBerry look like rank amateurs in that respect.

[Omnitech]

Unless you're a wanted felon or a terrorist, I think you will be fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

[qwerty4ever]

Further to that, look up "Committee of 100", the Brookings Institution and the Council on Foreign Relations. John S. Chen is a member of all of them, as well as on the boards of some of the largest corporations in the US, and is very, very well connected with the upper echelons of power in the USA, and the Western World, for that matter. (Not to mention the Eastern world. Xi Jinping, the president of China, recently congratulated the Committee of 100 for being a helpful influence on China/US relations.)

I daresay he makes the former heads of BlackBerry look like rank amateurs in that respect.

All the more reason to be suspicious of the latest revelation / announcement. This has nothing to do with the BlackBerry Priv and BlackBerry Android because it affects all BlackBerry smartphone users.

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[CarGuy1368]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

I read this and I'm not really sure how this relates to internet privacy. If you could provide some commentary in addition to the link, that would be helpful.

[anon(8063781)]

You think LG, Sony, Facebook, Samsung, Microsoft, Google, and Apple do not abide by court-ordered requests? Don't be naive.

Actually, because of the encryption they purposefully adopted last year, Google and Apple cannot currently abide by court-ordered requests to disclose some messages.

Manhattan DA demands Google, Apple implement back doors, kill end-to-end encryption | ExtremeTech

Apple, Google Urged to Crack Encrypted Phones in Terror Probes - Bloomberg Business

A security researcher has suggested that Apple could implement a back door, but the federal campaign against them suggests that they haven't -- unless, of course, you have a tinfoil hat and think that the whole campaign is smoke and mirrors designed to create a false sense of security.

iMessage Encryption Isn't As Secure as FBI Claims? | Digital Trends

Anyways, I trust BlackBerry no more than Google or Apple. They're all profit-making corporations. If they protect my data and communications, it's because it benefits them. If they don't, it's because it benefits them. And what benefits them might change over time.