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    Default Unofficial Playbook OS2 BETA Findings, Tips, Tricks, and Issues

    With all the work we've been doing in the forums regarding porting Android Apps to the Playbook, I realized that we never really set up a thread to discuss our findings about the OS itself (including found issues as to why some Android apps work, while others don't). What we think. New tricks. Any issues.

    Here is what I've found so far:

    Folders instead of tabs
    - this is bay far the biggest visual change that users will immediately notice
    - Gone are the Home/Media/Favorites/etc...
    - This has been replaced with a quick launch tray where you can store up to 6 "icons"
    - Why do I say icons instead of apps? well, that's because in addition to the folders on the home screen, you can also drag those folders to the tray. For those complaining about missing a tabbed view, this is a nice alternative without having to keep swiping over and over again.

    Security Wipe is a good idea before upgrading
    - During our porting of Android apps, we found that a single, initial Security Wipe and resinstallation of the OS2 BETA fixed 'most' issues (at least when attempting to run BAR applications that have been documented in the thread as working).

    WPS activation through router didn't work
    - Perhaps it was just me, or my router, but after performing the Security Wipe, I attempted to reconnect to my network using the WPS button, but it would not connect. I then tried it through the router's web interface and tried it with the PIN. Neither worked. This may have been due to a hidden SSID, but I've never had it be an issue with any other device before. I ended up having to input the settings manually.

    Camera won't focus.
    - This was perhaps THE most frustrating thing I've experienced so far in the BETA (that we weren't told about).
    - I attempted to use both the still camera and the video camera, but neither would focus. Tried the holding down of the button halfway trick (I know, touchscreen, so hold for a few seconds instead). No luck. Can anyone else confirm that the camera will not focus?

    Bridge requires a workaround to use
    - See this thread "HERE'S HOW to use Bridge in the 2.0 beta"

    How to install Android APKs

    APKs that have been converted, tested, or requested

    Camera will not work in Android Apps
    - One of the biggest Android APK files that everyone was trying to convert has been Skype.
    - We have it working WITHOUT VIDEO.
    - Currently, the Android player has been locked out of the Playbook Camera.

    Native Android e-mail client
    - See this thread for more details Native email (both personal and Exchange) available in Android player

    Ogg playback seems to be borked
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaTaX View Post
    I think I've found a reason we're having issues with so many apps, and it's a common theme amongst them all. Ogg playback seems to be borked at the moment and makes quite a few apps mad, I can see this happening in logcat as the apps force close (Angry Birds, LogMeIn Ignition, etc)
    Android Navigation Bar
    - Settings button does nothing (at least not yet)
    - To switch between open Android Applications (multitasking), use the icons found in the Navigation Bar at the bottom of the screen

    Killing Android Applications/Tasks
    - Once you are done with an application, make sure to CLOSE it by backing all the way out to the ANDROID HOME SCREEN.
    - Make sure you download the Task Killer Android App to make sure everything gets closed, just in case.
    - When all else fails, close the Android Player completely and reopen using a DIFFERENT application than the one that caused it to break.
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    cant acess to hotmail.com when on bridge in the browser.

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    Default Kobo

    I have noticed that I can no longer swipe to turn pages in Kobo? Anyone else?
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    Re: camera -- the pics look fine to me (similar to before) but you can't focus on objects that are really close (i.e. do macro shots)

    Re: Kobo -- same here...swiping doesn't work, but then I've always used tapping rather than swiping

    Re: folders -- a great feature on 2.0. Every time I install a new app, it's so easy to drag and drop it into a folder I've already made. Not sure why people complain about having to drag them across multiple screens. It's not like you're likely to have more than 3 screens to swipe through unless you avoid using folders (you CAN have more than 3 screens, btw). I personally have most things in folders so I have almost everything on just one screen!
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    I'm having trouble charging the playbook when it's turned off. It becomes unresponsive and need to do a reboot with the up/down volume keys and power button.
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    I confirm the wipe advise prior to install. My PG 32Gb went maybe 20% faster and much more stable after I security-wiped it and go install 2.0 again.
    - Camera, both video and photo works ... now. I've encountered some problems, but I think it is after having tried to launch photo in an Androd app. No focus problem.
    - Charging : no problem with micro-usb or charger. PB wakes up if micro-usb.
    - For "foreigners", the bridge workaround is no-go works ; seems that both if PB and Phone have to be is en/US localized.
    - Froggies & rest of the world again : no more NaN syndrom ! yeppeeee !

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxn147 View Post
    Not sure why people complain about having to drag them across multiple screens. It's not like you're likely to have more than 3 screens to swipe through unless you avoid using folders (you CAN have more than 3 screens, btw).
    How did you get more screens? I only see two as indicated by the little dots.
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    Tapping didn't even work for me. I am in the middle of a reload now. Will see what happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracudaBob View Post
    How did you get more screens? I only see two as indicated by the little dots.
    You just drag the icon/folder over. maybe pause a bit at the edge.

    I want to say that my camera works BETTER now. Its much faster taking stills and didn't jump (much) after a few seconds recording 1080p video. Now we need to talk to RIM about colour correction during video. Its bad when you change lighting conditions or even just the objects. A rock can be grey and the same rock can be red-ish in the same video BTW the rock is actually grey.
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    There is one thing that bugs the *** out of me. When you swipe across the bezel to automatically go to the next window (no minimizing) the animation/transition is sooo slow to bounce to the foreground. Everything is nice, smooth and fast except that transition. I really hope they fix it. I thought they could speed it up before, now its painful. Anyone else?
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    When updating to OS2 from DM - one of the modules was called AirTunes ....

    Does that mean that we can use the Playbook to stream to Airtunes devices (such as APple TV) - or can the PB now be used as a AirTunes "speaker"?

    Anyone knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindstrom View Post
    When updating to OS2 from DM - one of the modules was called AirTunes ....

    Does that mean that we can use the Playbook to stream to Airtunes devices (such as APple TV) - or can the PB now be used as a AirTunes "speaker"?

    Anyone knows?
    It was in the last OS as well. Don't know anything else, just how to use search
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    If i do a security wipe do i have to re-apply for OS 2 Beta or does it re-install itself?
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    Taking pictures with the camera is MUCH faster. It used to be awfully slow.
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    I have 2.0 installed but I haven't loaded any Android apps. Saw in the PlayBook apps forum that you can have multiple Android app windows open at the same time as with the native applications.

    Just want confirmation that this is true.

    And do the Android apps work with the Bridge data connection? This is huge for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hush9300 View Post
    I have 2.0 installed but I haven't loaded any Android apps. Saw in the PlayBook apps forum that you can have multiple Android app windows open at the same time as with the native applications.

    Just want confirmation that this is true.

    And do the Android apps work with the Bridge data connection? This is huge for me.

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    I could live without the bridge apps, but I could not get WiFi to connect ... that's just too big an issue, as it also caused Software Updates to hang up searching for the current OS version. Tried everything to get it working, but no luck. Ended up reverting to 1.07 for now. Anxiously waiting for the real OS 2 to arrive now.

    But I think I see where they're going with the web-based bridge apps, and if it's where I think they're going, Balsillie may not have been that far off with his leapfrog comment.
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    wifi - auto connect and doesnt allow me to disconnect or connect. besides that, i cant even know wat network im currently connected to.
    bar files - tried to sideloads some android apps but when selection on the icon, nothing seem to happen.
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    Bridge works fine for some
    WiFi issues - try resolving by deleting saved networks
    New Youtube app, much better
    New background in App World
    Keyboard smaller
    Reader view in browser
    Scrolling much faster in many apps (e.g. Glimpse, Blaq) - due to Air update?
    MKV support (limited audio codecs)
    New Bluetooth services (Audio/Video Remote Control) - no use yet
    Docs To Go updated
    BlackBerry ID info in settings (or was that always there and I never notice?)

    Out of interest:
    Andorid apps work very well and even provide native PB notifications. For fun I used Google Maps Navigation last night in the car (passenger). I tethered my BB9700 (though it seems to work through bridge the data rate is very slow here in Australia) and low and behold the GPS worked and it gave me turn by turn directions as we drove along... fantastic! I was shocked to see it provide native PB notifications too!
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    I believe that RIM have broken SSL in the beta version. Any of the HTTPS websites I've tried all fail.
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    You can't flick applications off the screen while side-switching anymore. Have to go back to the home screen, and then close them. Sucks.
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    OS1 wakes up from Standby with SWIPE ACROSS screen or BEZEL-TO-BEZEL.

    OS2Beta wakes up from Standby with a SINGLE TOUCH within the screen.

    I prefer swipe gesture and bezel-to-bezel.

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    I just want to say that I really hate the new UI. I hope they optimise it a bit more. I used to think my PB had the best UI out there, but this new one is underwhelming.

    There's no easy way to exit the folders, and since I almost always use it one-handed, I have to grab the other edge and aim for the X. This makes no sense. Surely they can add a swipe exit gesture.

    Also the fact that you cannot swipe directly from the first panel to the last is quite irritating. I use 5+ panels, since I don't really like the folders implementation, so that gets quite frustrating.

    The 3 pane multi-tasker is takes some getting used to, I guess.

    Waiting for the public release, though, so the PB can become a true powerhouse. Email is by far the feature I am looking forward to the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWait_IsOver View Post
    OS1 wakes up from Standby with SWIPE ACROSS screen or BEZEL-TO-BEZEL.

    OS2Beta wakes up from Standby with a SINGLE TOUCH within the screen.

    I prefer swipe gesture and bezel-to-bezel.

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    You sure about that? Mine only wakes up with the normal bezel to bezel swipe.
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    Damn, that would really suck. Bezel to bezel is the way to go. At least give us the option to customize...
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