1. Dr_Acula's Avatar
    Just wanted to ask if anyone want to help to run alternative is on playbook. This guy (quackquack147) can port some cool stuff like alternative os and other things to our pb.

    Due to a lot of workload he need someone to help him out.

    Contact him here.
    http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?t=816784
    Last edited by Dr_Acula; 06-14-13 at 12:16 AM.
    06-13-13 03:10 AM
  2. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Hi Dr_acula,
    I believe you posted it already, as did quackquack147.
    Flooding is not a good way to promote
    Cheers
    Barljo likes this.
    06-13-13 03:41 AM
  3. quackquack147's Avatar
    Hi Dr_acula,
    I believe you posted it already, as did quackquack147.
    Flooding is not a good way to promote
    Cheers
    Superfly_FR,
    he is not promoting, he is calling for help. multi tasking. since the time and effort from me is not sufficient. if others join in then things will go much faster and also much efficiently.
    since RIM created playbook and left us on the street like b@$**** child we need to do pull our socks and get our ego sorted (if any) and get into act.
    this is a lovely device. and its way cheaper even a brand new compared to other devices.
    reason? "the friggin OS" the person selling me his playbook is fedup with this playbook.
    we use multicore CPU these days why? things go fast and smooth, like that, what i can do in 2-3 months if more plunge in then it can be done faster. workload is shared between the users.
    i hope i did put my thoughts properly and its upto you to understand.
    thanks
    -paul
    Dr_Acula likes this.
    06-13-13 06:05 AM
  4. Shantanu Gupta's Avatar
    we use multicore CPU these days why? things go fast and smooth, like that, what i can do in 2-3 months if more plunge in then it can be done faster. workload is shared between the users.
    I expected more of a technical answer from someone looking forward to porting other OSs to playbook. Something along the lines of parallelism (also how it can actually be worse/slower than serial workload in some cases) and the power savings due to the ability of power gating the non-primary cores entirely.
    06-13-13 03:03 PM
  5. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Paul. I just said that multiple threads wasn?t useful.

    Posted via CB10
    06-13-13 05:06 PM
  6. Superfly_FR's Avatar
    Paul. I just meant that multiple threads wasn't useful.

    Posted via CB10


    Posted via CB10
    06-13-13 05:06 PM
  7. quackquack147's Avatar
    I expected more of a technical answer from someone looking forward to porting other OSs to playbook. Something along the lines of parallelism (also how it can actually be worse/slower than serial workload in some cases) and the power savings due to the ability of power gating the non-primary cores entirely.
    your hopes will shine only if we know something of whats going on. why inventing an exploit wont help on long run? because "RIM WILL FIX THE BLOODY HOLE!" pissed @ rims policy and not @ rim or their device. i have two device and i am buying one more. now coming to your point technical answer. Ti has released 5554 pages of jargon/bible/literature/thesis etc etc et al
    if you are suicidal then please read it and be my guest. i will only read the security section of the document. else things are there in code.
    now some part is under NDA viz trust core. we got absolutely no friggin info. its given to OEM/ODM only. and unless you present TI with a strong case and a business interest of more than 50,000 plus or more chips on a regular basis you are out of luck. which is why you in as much dark as i am or others are unless they are OEM/ODM. arm holding corp wont release much info either. bastids!
    if i understand things correctly then TI's trustcore is like intel's AES-NI. if you have used any intel 1 st gen or 2nd gen or 3 rd gen i5 and above cpu you will have it. i guess this is the same. TI releases 2 modes of CPU GP and HS. GP stands for general purpose and HS stands for high security. GP is mostly like panda board and beagleboard and et al and a few TI boards plus blah blah board. IIRC. and HS is highly specialised ones and a different beast altogether.
    we got almost no documentation as its under highly signed NDA docs. so i will pull the lines from core boot "we know the EC and working in general, but we dont know how specific they are. we dont have the docs nor any support from vendor. else binary only. which leaves us to *we dont know because we dont know*" got it? thats the problem mike. follow the thread by dr_akula and you will have shyte loads of info. i have decided to release info under gfdl (gnu free doc lic) to save my *** from a legal process. gnu will take care of it. no sensetive info will be disclosed and we aint going after anything sensetive. we are using the available tools by TI and OE (open embedded) and RIM's SDK/NDK and Simulators.
    rather than asking why not participate and also provide us information, we are looking forward to more support and co-op.
    if i understand parallelism properly, which i dont understand properly care to explain the question so i understand correctly. my guess is are you trying to bruteforce? if its so then?
    STOP! HOLD! this is a massive distributed computing job. your CPU will be wasting precious cpu cycles. and the key bit is 3072 i guess the boot loader is 4096 bit keys. insane? i dont think so. i may be wrong. press the eject button this is not des cracking.
    power saving? well the cores can be clocked to 1.2 ghz max w/o unit getting heated up (officially). you can over clock it even more then be prepared to touch insane high temperature on your BB playbook. we have dont this overclocking on n900 and we reached pretty high temp prettry soon. and also pretty soon we were drained of battery power.
    so if omap3430 can be clocked to 1.6 ghz which is 600 mhz to 800 mhz (official max speed is 800 mhz) then this is 1.2 ghz official do the math yourself as whats the max clock speed. and power goes equally to all cores this is not like intel's phq where you can control power of different voltage to different cores. i am not sure about phq either havent tried the the patch on kernel. and lastly i dont think you can get a great deal by over clocking you are slowly killing the cpu. i would never do it. and i will try something like on-demand cpu frequency scaling ideal than everytime using an over clocked cpu.
    hope i did answer your questions.
    thanks
    -paul
    06-14-13 10:24 AM
  8. quackquack147's Avatar
    Paul. I just said that multiple threads wasn?t useful.

    Posted via CB10
    relax and chill. mate i am a thick skin guy. extra thickness. :-D so you didnt offend me anyway. and dont worry i wont get offended either. these eenie weenie talks and misunderstanding if for sure bound to happen. dont worry and i can assure you one thing. you will never see me flaming you. thats my word on a signed bonafide paper. ;-) which you can count on and keep it in a high security safe. :-D
    sorry mate i never misjudged you. its that this is a community of frustrated BB playbook user. if we go so thin skin then RIM's BB OS wins and we loose.
    for me this is an unacceptable terms and conditions. we cant let RIM's BB OS frustrate us anymore. i dont know about others. But i want to break free. free from the clutches of the fsck's sake OS which is ugly in working and nasty, just asthetics are nice, else it sucks totally.
    my war is against OS and neither RIM. so relax and chill and here have your lemonade.
    ;-)
    thanks
    -paul
    06-14-13 10:29 AM
  9. Oldrio's Avatar
    Hey I'm all for Qracking the Playbook for an alternate OS. Sure sounds like a mega challenge. I've seen the TED talk with those guys in the Cell shops in India , their amazing . Assuming you could get Android on it , that would be another year and 50devs to get most of the bugs out. Dosn't seem worth it if Blackberry won't unlock it. Besides there's enough cheep android gizmos out . Just another OS with a backdoor , and tracking . FirefoxOS that might be interesting or Ubuntu . But on a Playbook ? unlikely. Good luck with it. I 'd like to see OPENVPN and updated news360 and pulse news and a few more apps. But do those dev's care about the Playbook .? Till then it's got good enough features to use as is , mainly for Computer training courses in my case.
    06-14-13 04:55 PM
  10. wired cleric's Avatar
    your hopes will shine only if we know something of whats going on. why inventing an exploit wont help on long run? because "RIM WILL FIX THE BLOODY HOLE!" pissed @ rims policy and not @ rim or their device. i have two device and i am buying one more. now coming to your point technical answer. Ti has released 5554 pages of jargon/bible/literature/thesis etc etc et al
    if you are suicidal then please read it and be my guest. i will only read the security section of the document. else things are there in code.
    now some part is under NDA viz trust core. we got absolutely no friggin info. its given to OEM/ODM only. and unless you present TI with a strong case and a business interest of more than 50,000 plus or more chips on a regular basis you are out of luck. which is why you in as much dark as i am or others are unless they are OEM/ODM. arm holding corp wont release much info either. bastids!
    if i understand things correctly then TI's trustcore is like intel's AES-NI. if you have used any intel 1 st gen or 2nd gen or 3 rd gen i5 and above cpu you will have it. i guess this is the same. TI releases 2 modes of CPU GP and HS. GP stands for general purpose and HS stands for high security. GP is mostly like panda board and beagleboard and et al and a few TI boards plus blah blah board. IIRC. and HS is highly specialised ones and a different beast altogether.
    we got almost no documentation as its under highly signed NDA docs. so i will pull the lines from core boot "we know the EC and working in general, but we dont know how specific they are. we dont have the docs nor any support from vendor. else binary only. which leaves us to *we dont know because we dont know*" got it? thats the problem mike. follow the thread by dr_akula and you will have shyte loads of info. i have decided to release info under gfdl (gnu free doc lic) to save my *** from a legal process. gnu will take care of it. no sensetive info will be disclosed and we aint going after anything sensetive. we are using the available tools by TI and OE (open embedded) and RIM's SDK/NDK and Simulators.
    rather than asking why not participate and also provide us information, we are looking forward to more support and co-op.
    if i understand parallelism properly, which i dont understand properly care to explain the question so i understand correctly. my guess is are you trying to bruteforce? if its so then?
    STOP! HOLD! this is a massive distributed computing job. your CPU will be wasting precious cpu cycles. and the key bit is 3072 i guess the boot loader is 4096 bit keys. insane? i dont think so. i may be wrong. press the eject button this is not des cracking.
    power saving? well the cores can be clocked to 1.2 ghz max w/o unit getting heated up (officially). you can over clock it even more then be prepared to touch insane high temperature on your BB playbook. we have dont this overclocking on n900 and we reached pretty high temp prettry soon. and also pretty soon we were drained of battery power.
    so if omap3430 can be clocked to 1.6 ghz which is 600 mhz to 800 mhz (official max speed is 800 mhz) then this is 1.2 ghz official do the math yourself as whats the max clock speed. and power goes equally to all cores this is not like intel's phq where you can control power of different voltage to different cores. i am not sure about phq either havent tried the the patch on kernel. and lastly i dont think you can get a great deal by over clocking you are slowly killing the cpu. i would never do it. and i will try something like on-demand cpu frequency scaling ideal than everytime using an over clocked cpu.
    hope i did answer your questions.
    thanks
    -paul
    This is poetry.
    06-14-13 10:28 PM
  11. quackquack147's Avatar
    Hey I'm all for Qracking the Playbook for an alternate OS. Sure sounds like a mega challenge. I've seen the TED talk with those guys in the Cell shops in India , their amazing . Assuming you could get Android on it , that would be another year and 50devs to get most of the bugs out. Dosn't seem worth it if Blackberry won't unlock it. Besides there's enough cheep android gizmos out . Just another OS with a backdoor , and tracking . FirefoxOS that might be interesting or Ubuntu . But on a Playbook ? unlikely. Good luck with it. I 'd like to see OPENVPN and updated news360 and pulse news and a few more apps. But do those dev's care about the Playbook .? Till then it's got good enough features to use as is , mainly for Computer training courses in my case.
    my intention is not android. i want to port coreboot. coreboot
    50 dev? we hardly got 2-3 except me. others are hoping for BB10 which if my guess is OK will be another sh1t.
    blackberry wont unlock it its fips 140 certified. and they are locking bootloader with 3072 bit RSA key. this is my device key.

    Modulus (3072 bits):
    8e 88 26 aa 6e 26 d6 7b 93 f0 e0 7a 3e a9 82 3c
    db 76 9b 48 90 b2 0d 2a ab 38 97 a8 83 d8 fc f8
    16 66 8a bf 52 55 5d 57 1e 24 3b a8 8e ae d0 3b
    8b b0 e6 50 92 83 74 4c 9b cb 99 37 52 5b 0b a2
    36 87 1f 09 f0 52 c6 0c 7a 82 99 c5 76 b3 26 2b
    28 b6 68 f5 df fb 05 3e 50 5e f1 e3 7b b1 64 c4
    00 24 40 a3 5d 10 2b 6e 17 25 07 10 1f 81 59 70
    81 67 a4 8c f9 34 19 b3 4b e9 5c 1b 77 97 33 aa
    59 4f c5 51 0d 01 3c 36 8e e9 f4 86 1b eb bb ed
    73 92 7c 57 df b4 2b 0d 8d 57 ca 9e 8d bb b1 b9
    cb 25 df af c7 d7 55 69 58 36 72 80 ca 6d 4c 66
    68 26 8c a2 fa 9f 6b f0 6a cc fa 8b 40 be ea 8a
    ab 22 41 8d 86 c1 58 0a 9c 5a b9 c7 64 1a 27 7d
    8e d8 18 05 57 f0 eb 96 df e9 45 28 93 70 8f 52
    51 40 50 6c ee 40 27 ab 47 46 37 98 bb d2 2f 8d
    6d ed f8 5d 6f 80 57 4f 18 d6 f8 1c 7a d6 aa 34
    2e 03 76 88 64 b3 16 ea 3c 5e 69 25 1f 32 d6 94
    fa 46 cb 01 2b 13 90 0e d1 7a 5a bd 45 21 fd c9
    5f b8 1d 76 8a 69 bf 31 a5 91 76 7e 9b 7e 9a 89
    80 99 45 2c 72 6e 30 d8 7d 8c 74 15 66 b5 35 9d
    a3 c4 76 f2 16 d7 2d be bf 93 01 3c 72 d8 f2 e7
    c0 18 bb 52 22 6b ea 47 e4 e4 76 40 70 6c 6b 31
    59 25 e6 84 86 a8 c0 ef 40 93 a6 ce f5 e3 10 f0
    07 e8 cc 38 e1 b4 de 6e 01 5d 67 a0 4a 30 c3 4b

    Exponent (24 bits):
    65537

    Size: 384 Bytes / 3072 Bits
    5b 19 36 5f 80 a1 d0 5d 30 2d bf 97 2c 14 0b d5
    cd 6b 67 9b a9 ef 47 1f 6d c8 31 90 c9 79 ef 8b
    59 fc 50 97 b0 6d 14 a0 e5 7b 99 28 2f c8 b1 93
    59 f8 0b ce a2 ec 6b 4a 7d 5d 7a b2 d6 ce 13 92
    4c e8 09 66 a1 ac 56 a2 71 57 13 39 bb b9 e8 76
    3d 83 01 93 4f 83 1b 02 fc c3 f4 b2 7e 9c a7 db
    0e ad 5d 34 10 e4 57 6c 65 bc 81 ae 55 19 36 c6
    92 25 e2 13 93 79 ae 7c a6 8b fb c2 6c 7a ef 8c
    e4 ab fe 3e 8a 05 db c2 8e bd 7a db 7d f5 11 c7
    c1 ff 7d f4 25 92 6d d8 b9 88 a8 37 6e 78 c6 34
    ce 2b 83 ef a2 a5 a6 09 31 f0 8b 38 5b 79 ea 0b
    5e 59 92 38 8e 99 ef 96 28 9e e0 b5 f9 5d 73 2a
    e8 8e b6 14 83 35 8d 6e ea fc 28 b8 8d 23 9b 2a
    48 1a ce 3e 52 ce a8 5c 7c e7 fc 3d 25 1f c9 4e
    f0 3b a3 39 ef 33 cd e9 2e 3b 6c 7b 4e 04 1a f3
    79 39 a1 7b 29 b8 98 9e c1 f2 75 af 83 21 26 5b
    2c d5 9d 81 e6 2e 39 5e 2a 56 c4 81 59 4d b1 3e
    3c ae c1 17 35 fd aa 59 e5 67 95 d2 3e 90 c3 e4
    d2 72 64 52 4d e2 7b 7e 4b 4c ab 6e 27 21 57 cc
    a4 99 fd c1 d4 b7 33 03 2f 17 e8 1c 31 3a 51 5a
    50 40 d4 44 b1 05 ed 42 c4 ce 91 fb d3 44 ae d1
    ac da 3b 12 49 f8 89 50 d9 b3 7f a7 b9 d1 7e 5c
    b6 b3 53 11 32 d9 e1 3a f8 0b d1 60 35 59 a9 c6
    fd 1f 4c a9 71 2b 23 53 f4 fc 08 e0 c9 d2 7f 09

    backdoor? BB uses a thing called firmware update like how MS uses windows update. thats the backdoor for them and also for us.
    i got a cheap mtk mobile and i really dont like it. its quadcore and a7. errrrrrrrrr
    your prime usage is not the same as mine. i am going deep. replacing x-loader and u-boot with coreboot. YMMV (your mileage may vary)
    thanks
    -paul
    06-15-13 01:55 AM
  12. Dr_Acula's Avatar
    ______A116?
    06-15-13 02:32 AM
  13. quackquack147's Avatar
    ______A116?
    no please not that micromax canvas a116. no seriously no thanks.
    i got myself a zolo q700. i like it and its cheap too.
    i dislike anything from micromax. they make Mt everest out of a grain of sand.
    thanks
    -paul
    Dr_Acula likes this.
    06-15-13 02:56 AM

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