[dutchtender]

I know I will make some of my fellow bb enthusiasts angry when I say this but I agree.... But even more I am beginning to wonder what the hang up is, because it is obvious there is one...

Let's face it, week 3 of February is eroding quickly. Barely 5 weeks remaining until March 31, the last day they can release it and say they made Q1. Something has gummed up the works that prevents them with being confident enough to give a release date.

Possible snags are they haven't perfected portrait mode (they were unable to exhibit it at mwc), the flashing of the firmware is still not quite there, and the most likely I think, they are making sure they have enough apps approved and available... I just read an article that said some app devs are having 9 kinds of **** getting their apps approved.

Your frustration is shared by many, just maybe not the all-forgiving near-blindly-loyal fanbois.

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jim said April. why don't you want to believe him? don't you understand CEO "speak"?

[dutchtender]

Well look at it like this. They could have released a laggy, incomplete (both hardware and software), premium priced device like Motorola did with the Xoom. I'm wishing the Playbook was out too, but better to get it right then to "xoom it up". You know Apple is going to be announcing and releasing the iPad2, and like it or not, all tablets will be judged against it.

so you think the PB is going to be IPAD like "fit n finish" when it is released? sorry to dissapoint. But the reviewers are going to "take it apart". they nitpick these things to death. and you can bet if they find faults in V3 Android they will find numerous faults in V1 QNX.

[anthonybaker]

May be maybe not. Moto announced in Jan at CES and look how their products launching...



While you frustration is somewhat understandable, it does not mean there have been any major snags or problems as you routinely suggest. RIM is still within the proclaimed time frame they gave months ago. Maybe you have never noticed but RIM isn't the type of company that gives out release dates until shortly before launch. Only the original Storm was done that way and we all know how that turned out.

The powers that be are simply trying to dot their i's and cross their t's. The PB firmware is really close to being ready for release. There are many Partners out there right now(SAP for instance) who are and have been testing PB's in their environment and use them on a daily basis. And are happy with the latest bundle.

Well said !

[kb5zht]

Well look at it like this. They could have released a laggy, incomplete (both hardware and software), premium priced device like Motorola did with the Xoom. I'm wishing the Playbook was out too, but better to get it right then to "xoom it up". You know Apple is going to be announcing and releasing the iPad2, and like it or not, all tablets will be judged against it.

I don't buy that because, no matter what shape the firmware is upon release, it will be incomplete. We were all but told this by RIM reps at shows; when they say "the software will evolve" read that as "will be bugged but get updates to fix it."

I tend to think there is another hangup.... But they still have 5 weeks.

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[dsquared2]

There are many Partners out there right now(SAP for instance) who are and have been testing PB's in their environment and use them on a daily basis. And are happy with the latest bundle.

Great! I mean if you can "run a billion dollar business" on that then release must be on the horizon! My savings account is giddy!

[lnichols]

so you think the PB is going to be IPAD like "fit n finish" when it is released? sorry to dissapoint. But the reviewers are going to "take it apart". they nitpick these things to death. and you can bet if they find faults in V3 Android they will find numerous faults in V1 QNX.

Can't say for sure since it isn't out, but I think they are trying to make sure it is as good as it can be while still being within the delivery window they stated in September. The hardware side appears to be very solid, so if they get the software nice an fluid then I think it could be better than an iPod, I mean iPad from a platform perspective. Hopefully RIM won't xoom things up.

[barrist]

so you think the PB is going to be IPAD like "fit n finish" when it is released? sorry to dissapoint. But the reviewers are going to "take it apart". they nitpick these things to death. and you can bet if they find faults in V3 Android they will find numerous faults in V1 QNX.

You actually don't know that, so please stop talking out of your ***.

You can't call honeycomb "V3" android. Google even called it built "from the ground up" themselves, so it's in the same situation as QNX which was also built from the ground up for the Playbook.

[dutchtender]

You actually don't know that, so please stop talking out of your ***.

You can't call honeycomb "V3" android. Google even called it built "from the ground up" themselves, so it's in the same situation as QNX which was also built from the ground up for the Playbook.

ok. you continue to think an OS that has never before been on a mobile device is going to have IPAD like fit and finish, and I'll continue to try to stay firmly grounded in "reality".

[barrist]

ok. you continue to think an OS that has never before been on a mobile device is going to have IPAD like fit and finish, and I'll continue to try to stay firmly grounded in "reality".

I'm sorry, noone here has even used the phrase "IPAD like fit and finish" except for you, but thank you for ignoring my point about your point making no sense.

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[dutchtender]

Can't say for sure since it isn't out, but I think they are trying to make sure it is as good as it can be while still being within the delivery window they stated in September. The hardware side appears to be very solid, so if they get the software nice an fluid then I think it could be better than an iPod, I mean iPad from a platform perspective. Hopefully RIM won't xoom things up.

the history of All V1 products it to get it "good enough" to get out in the marketplace. PB, at best, will be no different.

[barrist]

"perfect" the firmware. lol. translation: get it good enough so the reviewers won't laugh their arses off at this thing. btw I was the only one here to predict PB would be late.

Ain't late yet son. It's still February.

[Daniel Ratcliffe]

Ain't late yet son. It's still February.

Don't try and reason with him, he'll just go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on until you give in and bend to his way of thinking. No matter what it takes for him to do that. He still thinks that RIM should just accept they're dead meat, have them initiate an update that causes all BlackBerry smartphones to explode, killing all the users from lead poisoning in the process

[TheScionicMan]

I know the calendar says that Christmas is on December 25th, but I'm getting my hopes up that it will come early this year, like around the end of November, maybe even Black Friday, but that might mess up some shopping plans...

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Okay C_X well then there it is; I feel you know what you are talking about here so I can assume that its a fact but then isn't that "the snag"?

Don't you think its cutting it a little close that 5 weeks out the firmware isn't finished yet? I feel it would be awefully difficult to within 5 weeks to finish the software (whatever that may entail), load it on hundreds of thousands of playbook units, package them (let's not forget that step), load all these units onto tractor trailers and planes on the west coast and transport them to enough locations within the US to be able to honestly qualify for a full release?

That is reeeeeeeally pushing it.

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The FW could be released tomorrow if necessary. But it's not at this moment. When it's time to put FW on devices, hundred & hundreds can be flashed at a time. It won't take very long. As for the firmware, just trying to get it as good as possible.

Happier now, yes. It would also likely put him out of a job meaning that would be the last bit of inside info you would get from him. I can wait.

Thanks Hap. He's a good guy. Glad you sensed his sarcasm.

It was a joke, don't take me so seriously.

so you think the PB is going to be IPAD like "fit n finish" when it is released? sorry to dissapoint. But the reviewers are going to "take it apart". they nitpick these things to death. and you can bet if they find faults in V3 Android they will find numerous faults in V1 QNX.

You're entitled to your opinion. FYI the PlayBook isn't going to fail and from your attitude it's truly going to disappoint you because it's going to be great.

[lnichols]

ok. you continue to think an OS that has never before been on a mobile device is going to have IPAD like fit and finish, and I'll continue to try to stay firmly grounded in "reality".

You're entitled to your opinion. FYI the PlayBook isn't going to fail and from your attitude it's truly going to disappoint you because it's going to be great.

Careful CX, you destroy his "reality"

[TheScionicMan]

by "iPad-like fit and finish" does he mean semi-multitasking and no Flash?

[sandmanfvr]

Good hear that they are just polishing. If they were fixing stuff that would make me worry.

[Xecutioner88]

I don't buy that because, no matter what shape the firmware is upon release, it will be incomplete. We were all but told this by RIM reps at shows; when they say "the software will evolve" read that as "will be bugged but get updates to fix it."

I tend to think there is another hangup.... But they still have 5 weeks.

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That's one way to put it, but i think they said that not because a buggy OS (wich is still pretty probable), but because they will have new software to USE, not to FIX.

[The.Rorschach]

what's the 'o' stand for?

The "O" in WTFO stands for "over". In the military, it is used as a signal, while on a radio, to indicate to the listener that the transmission is complete, and the transmitter, is awaiting a response. I.E. Transmitter:"What time is lunch? Over." Respondent:"At 1400 (2pm) hours. Out"

[dcscott]

I solved the "waiting game" problem for all of you. You know when I buy a snow blower it doesn't snow. And if I wash my car it rains for sure. Well yesterday I got tired of the money I had stashed for the PB burning a hole in my pocket and spent it on something else (not a tablet). So you just watch. Now that I'm penniless, RIM will announce in a day or two. The good news is that by the time I save my money back up they'll have the bugs out of it and the 3G version will be out.

[Erandhawa]

If we go by how rim gives release daes remember the torch announcement was roughly a week before the release so if they follow that they have plenty of time for an announcement.

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[Rello]

Man forget it.......in my mind, the release date is March 31st. Problem solved. This way, theres only one possible way RIM can disappoint me, and any date before it will just make me happier. Now I can gladly go back to having a normal life and not having the Playbook consume 40% of my thoughts. Ahhhhhh glad thats over

**Goes back to thinking about Playbook**

Ughhhhhh...............

[Rickroller]

Man forget it.......in my mind, the release date is March 31st. Problem solved. This way, theres only one possible way RIM can disappoint me, and any date before it will just make me happier. Now I can gladly go back to having a normal life and not having the Playbook consume 40% of my thoughts. Ahhhhhh glad thats over

**Goes back to thinking about Playbook**

Ughhhhhh...............

Lol..with 40% devoted to Playbook..and the other 50% probably devoted to girls..that doesn't leave a whole lot of focus anywhere else

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[Rello]

IT DOESN'T lol ha ha...........Dad says he gonna kick me out cause all he hears is me "crying" about not having a Playbook in my hand lmao

So fa real.......that 40% was probably an understatement. I probably think about it more than my girlfriend. Damn thats sad lol

[Rickroller]

I probably think about it more than my girlfriend. Damn thats sad lol

Lol..im sure most Crackberry addicts would admit to thinking about BBs/Cellphones while pretending to listen to whatever the wife/gf is saying

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