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    Default Why I am *not* switching to an Ipad

    Reading the posts about Ipads/Androids versus Playbooks, I decided to put up a post on why I am *not* switching to another tablet.

    Now, don't get me wrong. Ipads/Androids are great. They are even better than Playbooks overall. And some people do better with them. But there are some things that draw me to the Playbook. So here's my list.

    1. I would like to avoid Apple's and Google's all-encompasing ecosystems. ---- I don't want to constantly fork money to a company that has 1 billion in the bank. And Google already has enough info about me through gmail and Google searches.

    2. I like cheering for the little guy. ----- And now RIM is definitely the little guy.

    3. The portability of the Playbook is great.

    4. The full internet on the Playbook is fantastic for casual surfing.

    5. The lower cost of the Playbook is significant. Most of us are trying to save money.

    6. It is hard for me to justify spending a lot of money on a toy (e.g. Ipad). With a Playbook the emphasis is more on productivity.

    7. The RIM ecosystem is definitely more secure. This is not an absolute necessity for me. But it is a nice feature when I send financial info through the internet.

    8. I like to be a little bit different. ----- Socially, buying an Ipad is safe because all the cool kids have one. But RIM is being written off for dead, so it peaks people's interest when I say that I bought one. They wonder what I saw in it, so they ask questions and explore it themselves.

    9. RIM is developing a quality OS right now. For the long term, I'd rather learn a quality OS, than stick with a lesser OS which has an easy interface.

    Just a few points. Don't let me stop anyone from switching to a different tablet. But I like mine now.
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    I simply can't stand the iPad or Apple. I'm sorry that I can't give any better or tech reason but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeoff View Post

    1. I would like to avoid Apple's and Google's all-encompasing ecosystems. ---- I don't want to constantly fork money to a company that has 1 billion in the bank. And Google already has enough info about me through gmail and Google searches.

    6. It is hard for me to justify spending a lot of money on a toy (e.g. Ipad). With a Playbook the emphasis is more on productivity.
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    I can't afford to switch as I spent my money on the PB! Joking apart I bought the PB after I got bored with the wife's ipad. I'm more than happy with MY choice, the PB does what I want. Enough said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeoff View Post
    7. The RIM ecosystem is definitely more secure. This is not an absolute necessity for me. But it is a nice feature when I send financial info through the internet.
    I like to call that one the "Safer air travel through proper taxicab selection" plan. Picking the slightly safer of three cabs will not impact your air travel safety.
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    I too like the underdog but the multitasking and interface did it for me. I love giving my tablet to owners of other brands and they ask where the home button is.
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    point no. 6 really? as much as i like my pb, i think i can do more even on my ipod touch. let's show some objectivity over here.

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    The Playbook is a nice piece of tech but the playbook has alot of limitations mostly due to the lack of an ecosystem so for those who can afford it they should own an Ipad 3 as well.

    RIM used to be a major player but a series of missteps and miscalculations have changed all that. I love my blackberries and my playbook but I'm not a fan boy for any consumer product. I will always buy the best product I can obtain not merely a brand label.
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    Congratulations on deciding to testify to the wonders of the PB - that should make you a full RIM cult member now. So you buy into RIM's marketing BS as opposed to the BS from Apple and Google. All that means is that you can parrot back your own versions of meaningless buzzwords and tag lines like "full internet," and "tool vs toys," and professional. Here is a news flash: none of them are any more true than Apple's marketing lines for its products. It is not the full internet as evidenced by issues with numerous sites, lack of compatibility with an array of popular sites, and lack of support for Silverlight. As far as being a professional tool, the app selection is poor and the apps loaded by RIM are seriously lacking in both quality and features. Transmitting data over a PB is also no more secure than transmitting data over any other wifi device I am glad you like your PB - it is a nice little machine. All any of these "why its better than an iPad" posts do though is waste bandwidth and convey one's RIM inferiority complex and iPad envy. I will never buy an Apple product for an array of reasons, but none have any more merit on these forums than the my PB is better than someone's iPad posts that show up here again and again....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bohbohboh View Post
    point no. 6 really? as much as i like my pb, i think i can do more even on my ipod touch. let's show some objectivity over here.

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    really? Your ipod touch must be great! Can you access the mlsmatrix, which is an all flash based site for real estate professionals? Cuz that's the kind of productivity I get out of my PlayBook. Don't carry around a laptop to show clients other properties, I just pull out my PlayBook and bam.
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    Exactly my reasons why I have two Playbooks and not any other. Another point for me is Bridge. I'm not even sure I wanted a different tablet at all, because the hype around the others simply makes me nauseous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternalemb View Post
    really? Your ipod touch must be great! Can you access the mlsmatrix, which is an all flash based site for real estate professionals? Cuz that's the kind of productivity I get out of my PlayBook. Don't carry around a laptop to show clients other properties, I just pull out my PlayBook and bam.
    my quote was referring to people like you. take a step back, look at the broader things businesses use. don't make your claim based on your one super specific example.

    1. document tools: word to go is as simple as window's notepad, the spreadsheet cannot take commands more complex than SUM or AVERAGE, powerpoint is unable to play animations or allow for last minute edits before a presentation.

    2. video conferencing: The lack of skype has been reiterated more than enough times i don't have to repeat.

    3. Management tools: Let's not even go into specifics. Find me ONE, just one solid statistical or inventory management program available on the playbook. we're not even looking into industry specific apps here, just basic stuff.

    4. PDF reader. again, mentioned many times before. You're sitting at starbucks, your boss sends you a 150 page file to analyze and provide insights. BAM. Where's my laptop?

    The community by far have come to a consensus that it was a horrible mistake for the playbook to be marketed as a professional tablet. I don't know what you are tying to prove here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bohbohboh View Post
    my quote was referring to people like you. take a step back, look at the broader things businesses use. don't make your claim based on your one super specific example.

    1. document tools: word to go is as simple as window's notepad, the spreadsheet cannot take commands more complex than SUM or AVERAGE, powerpoint is unable to play animations or allow for last minute edits before a presentation.

    2. video conferencing: The lack of skype has been reiterated more than enough times i don't have to repeat.

    3. Management tools: Let's not even go into specifics. Find me ONE, just one solid statistical or inventory management program available on the playbook. we're not even looking into industry specific apps here, just basic stuff.

    4. PDF reader. again, mentioned many times before. You're sitting at starbucks, your boss sends you a 150 page file to analyze and provide insights. BAM. Where's my laptop?

    The community by far have come to a consensus that it was a horrible mistake for the playbook to be marketed as a professional tablet. I don't know what you are tying to prove here.
    So your iPod Touch has management tools? Or is your point simply to reiterate what your ilk always like to repeat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternalemb View Post
    really? Your ipod touch must be great! Can you access the mlsmatrix, which is an all flash based site for real estate professionals? Cuz that's the kind of productivity I get out of my PlayBook. Don't carry around a laptop to show clients other properties, I just pull out my PlayBook and bam.
    actually i can access that site without flash
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    You do know its possible to own both righr ? A device shouldn't define who you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternalemb View Post
    really? Your ipod touch must be great! Can you access the mlsmatrix, which is an all flash based site for real estate professionals? Cuz that's the kind of productivity I get out of my PlayBook. Don't carry around a laptop to show clients other properties, I just pull out my PlayBook and bam.
    I am fairly certain that there is native software created for iOS. I could be wrong though.
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    For me, it's all about the money! A tablet doesn't come close to being a Desktop or Laptop replacement. The Playbook is the right size and right price for light portable use.
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    The price and hardware points make sense.

    Productivity?

    C'mon son...
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    Quote Originally Posted by howarmat View Post
    actually i can access that site without flash
    Considering your location, I doubt its the same. I use the CRMLSMATRIX. CR standing for California Regional.
    Quote Originally Posted by bohbohboh View Post
    my quote was referring to people like you. take a step back, look at the broader things businesses use. don't make your claim based on your one super specific example.

    1. document tools: word to go is as simple as window's notepad, the spreadsheet cannot take commands more complex than SUM or AVERAGE, powerpoint is unable to play animations or allow for last minute edits before a presentation.

    2. video conferencing: The lack of skype has been reiterated more than enough times i don't have to repeat.

    3. Management tools: Let's not even go into specifics. Find me ONE, just one solid statistical or inventory management program available on the playbook. we're not even looking into industry specific apps here, just basic stuff.

    4. PDF reader. again, mentioned many times before. You're sitting at starbucks, your boss sends you a 150 page file to analyze and provide insights. BAM. Where's my laptop?

    The community by far have come to a consensus that it was a horrible mistake for the playbook to be marketed as a professional tablet. I don't know what you are tying to prove here.
    Super specific? Hold the phone while I talk to the over half a million realtors in California alone LOL

    Word to go isn't an issue for me and I reckon, not for many other business people. A lot of professions and companies have proprietary forms and documents that can simply be downloaded and MIGHT need some editing, for which word to go is basic enough to do. For example, if making an offer on a property I use zipforms 6, again a flash based site.

    Management tools? MS Office webapps very nice to use in my PlayBooks browser. And it syncs across to my desktops, laptops and my Windows Phone instantly.

    PDF is an argument to you? The Adobe Reader app reads them fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eternalemb View Post
    Considering your location, I doubt its the same. I use the CRMLSMATRIX. CR standing for California Regional.


    nope, california regional login
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    i use pb for about 4 months and i love certains things
    1. carryable anywhere
    2 amazing bridging with my bb so internet on the go everywhere
    3 print 2 go-cannot imagine how often i use it and how it saved me time to my bussiness
    4 multitasking=priority
    5 amazing battery 7 hours no matter what i do....
    6 amazing hd screen and amazing hd cable and remote control with bridge
    7 mail=the best
    8 music speakers amazing

    for all the above i am in love with my pb. as a matter of fact i have never hold so long in any other tablet

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    Someone at Apple had to have been drunk when deciding that the speaker should be on the back of the iPad. What a dumb idea... The sound alone is a huge advantage that the PlayBook has.

    You'd think that for Apple touting iTunes, they'd at least have a decent, well-placed speaker or two on the iPad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SK122387 View Post
    Someone at Apple had to have been drunk when deciding that the speaker should be on the back of the iPad. What a dumb idea... The sound alone is a huge advantage that the PlayBook has.

    You'd think that for Apple touting iTunes, they'd at least have a decent, well-placed speaker or two on the iPad.
    Judging by comparative adoption, it could be argued that most of the buying public is drunk too, or that is just not considered a serious enough feature.

    The PB does have the best as-is speakers I have seen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SK122387 View Post
    Someone at Apple had to have been drunk when deciding that the speaker should be on the back of the iPad. What a dumb idea... The sound alone is a huge advantage that the PlayBook has.

    You'd think that for Apple touting iTunes, they'd at least have a decent, well-placed speaker or two on the iPad.
    I couldn't put up with that. If it's THAT expensive, then that's just abysmal. As a hearing impaired like me, that alone would make it out of question for me. The PB is barely loud and clear enough for me. That shows again that it's all about flashy and not enough substance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralfyguy View Post
    I couldn't put up with that. If it's THAT expensive, then that's just abysmal. As a hearing impaired like me, that alone would make it out of question for me. The PB is barely loud and clear enough for me. That shows again that it's all about flashy and not enough substance.
    Not necessarily. It could mean that the designers figured it was a concession they could afford, or that most people will choose to use headphones with the device.

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