Why every single cool game is for purchase?

**berryaddict338** · 04-25-2012, 10:49 AM

I really don't mean to be complaining, but why blackberry are charging for all cool games? not to compare with other platforms, which have a tons of cool games, and if they do charge at least they develop a free version! Do you really think RIM is on a position of being charging for everything when they almost don't have anything cool in app world!?? I actually bought this tablet because I saw a guy playing modern combat 2 on the train, but beside that everything else is for purchase! Not many options, so if I want some fun or productivity I need to pay without free version, is like actually they are doing it on purpose because without those pricing apps this tablet become really boring or non functional after a few days. I hope I don't hurt no ones feelings on this forum with my post, but honestly is the truth. I really would love this tablet get better! And If I will be attack.. Just be honest to yourself and think about it and read carefully ,I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just saying my own opinion, and I know I'm not lying, peace!

**OniPod** · 04-25-2012, 10:52 AM

Because games are not made with wishes.

It takes knowledge and support. That costs money. How long do you think a dev will keep producing apps for a platform if s/he is not seeing any type of return.

smh

**Fubaz** · 04-25-2012, 10:53 AM

there are a lot of fun games for free, just expand your horizons outside of app world and look at sideloading more android on to your PB

It is also cool to pee your pants

**westronic** · 04-25-2012, 10:55 AM

First, Blackberry has supplied two very cool free games, and they are not the only ones.

Second, there are quite a few good games either free or with some form of free version.

Moving on...

**Blkacesvf41** · 04-25-2012, 11:06 AM

It could always be worse…windows phone market still waiting for Angry Birds Space and I betcha they'd be happy to pay for it.

**DocDRM** · 04-25-2012, 11:10 AM

Why does everything have to be free? Why do so many people want everything in life GIVEN to them?

Who paid for your train ride? Do you give your services/efforts free to your employer? Why not? If you would just work for them for free, maybe they could offer some more cool things to their customers. As it is, since you force them to pay you, all they have to offer will become boring soon, and their business will soon fail.

Maybe what people should do is just pay for the things in life they need and want, and quit asking for someone else to foot the bill. If you can't afford $3 or $4 bucks each for a handful of games, how can you afford a few hundred $$$$ for a PlayBook, iPad, or Android tab to play them on? Or did someone else pay for that, too?

I feel like I'm cheating some of these dev's. like instead of $.99. or $1.99 I should be giving them $5, $10, heck - $20 for some of what they've created!

**Foreverup** · 04-25-2012, 11:21 AM

Hope the OP knows that the devs set their own prices not RIM.

But the OP is right after spending hours, weeks, or maybe months making the apps, sometimes on their free time if it is a small dev, they have the audacity to charge us (the poor end user) for their work.

To developers you need to start wising up we are not going put up with this for long.

P.S. ssst.gif

**GreyGhostRos** · 04-25-2012, 12:09 PM

Umm..
1. Developers charge NOT RIM.. The developer puts in lots of time, efforts to make the game he will obviously sell it.. None of RIMs mistake in it..
2. There are many games "free" as demos or expansion buy ins.. (For Ex. Doodle Blast)
3. There are cool free games by independant developers too.. (Depends on your definition of cool though..)
4. I think RIM is giving out more freebie cool games than anyone..(Modern Combat 2, Asphalt 6, and my Playbook (India) shipped with NFS Undercover and Tetris too)
5. Don't blame RIM for something that is nowehere close to their mistake :P

**moss27** · 04-25-2012, 12:21 PM

People are taking this way too personally. He has a point...the only way to play, for example, the first 3 angry birds games is to dish out $15.00 on the playbook, even though the games were available on other platforms before the playbook. However on the android devices and apple devices, you have an opportunity to play them for free but with ads. Sounds like a big difference to me. $15.00 for 3 games. No free trial. No free with ads version. That adds up down the road.

Whether it's rim or the devs, I don't see how anyone can defend this.

**vorpalz** · 04-25-2012, 12:30 PM

life is unfair... deal with it

**Khameleon05** · 04-25-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by moss27

People are taking this way too personally. He has a point...the only way to play, for example, the first 3 angry birds games is to dish out $15.00 on the playbook, even though the games were available on other platforms before the playbook. However on the android devices and apple devices, you have an opportunity to play them for free but with ads. Sounds like a big difference to me. $15.00 for 3 games. No free trial. No free with ads version. That adds up down the road.

Whether it's rim or the devs, I don't see how anyone can defend this.

The point is it's not rims fault and he seems to think that everything on the marketplace is made and priced by them. It has nothing to do with them.

**DocDRM** · 04-25-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by moss27

People are taking this way too personally. He has a point...the only way to play, for example, the first 3 angry birds games is to dish out $15.00 on the playbook, even though the games were available on other platforms before the playbook. However on the android devices and apple devices, you have an opportunity to play them for free but with ads. Sounds like a big difference to me. $15.00 for 3 games. No free trial. No free with ads version. That adds up down the road.

Whether it's rim or the devs, I don't see how anyone can defend this.

intellectual Property - content creator/distribution decides monetization - not the end user. If for one platform free game and ads creates best revenue, then it's free game and ads for that platform. If another requires direct purchase, well, buy it or not, your choice. It's called the free market, what do YOU want to see? A UNIONIZED consumer base that decides what you are to be given for free? Maybe the government should look into this because it's not FAIR!

If a game or app doesn't sell as expected, the free market gives Rovio (and others) instant feedback. They will either keep the price intact or lower it. I like sales - wait for one!

I, for one, have dished out more than $15 this month on crappy burgers that I only get to eat once - so $15 for games that I can play over and over, and share with others, seems a BARGAIN to me.

P.S. Haven't and won't buy any of the AB's - i don't get their popularity, but I would gladly pay if I had a younger child that asked me to. My 16y.o. son knows that if he wants games for his PB, he has to buy them - i won't let him sideload any paid apps!

**kbz1960** · 04-25-2012, 12:44 PM

Just be happy devs are coming onboard. You could have only crappy free apps or cheap crappy paid apps.

**OniPod** · 04-25-2012, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by moss27

People are taking this way too personally. He has a point...the only way to play, for example, the first 3 angry birds games is to dish out $15.00 on the playbook, even though the games were available on other platforms before the playbook. However on the android devices and apple devices, you have an opportunity to play them for free but with ads. Sounds like a big difference to me. $15.00 for 3 games. No free trial. No free with ads version. That adds up down the road.

Whether it's rim or the devs, I don't see how anyone can defend this.

Not personally moss, just logically. You can moan and b*tch all you like. BB is not Android or iOS, so whatever devs and those platforms want to charge, or not charge, is their affair. If you feel an app or game is overpriced, then DO NOT BUY IT. I think it's great that RIM let's the developer set his/her price. After all, I think it's only fair. Y'know, cause they created the actual app in the first place.

He doesn't have a valid point or a leg to stand on. Neither do you moss, if the basis of your argument is that 15.00 can really add up. Either wait for your allowance, or get a job. SMFH

**Chrysalis1156** · 04-25-2012, 12:48 PM

I personally have no problem paying for a game. I'm glad developers are bringing their games to the pb and feel that people should be paid for providing goods and services. I don't drive thru McDonalds and expect free samples or a Big Mac if I'm willing to accept ads on the packaging, so why would I expect free games? If you don't want to pay for it, do without or play it on another platform.

**I am JT** · 04-25-2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by moss27

Whether it's rim or the devs, I don't see how anyone can defend this.

It's called the free market. It doesn't need defending. You get to choose what is worth your hard earned dollars.

**kennyliu** · 04-25-2012, 12:58 PM

Simple. More inelastic demand curve (due to limited alternatives) = higher price where price discrimination is possible.

**alnamvet68** · 04-25-2012, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by DocDRM

Why does everything have to be free? Why do so many people want everything in life GIVEN to them?

Who paid for your train ride? Do you give your services/efforts free to your employer? Why not? If you would just work for them for free, maybe they could offer some more cool things to their customers. As it is, since you force them to pay you, all they have to offer will become boring soon, and their business will soon fail.

Maybe what people should do is just pay for the things in life they need and want, and quit asking for someone else to foot the bill. If you can't afford $3 or $4 bucks each for a handful of games, how can you afford a few hundred $$$$ for a PlayBook, iPad, or Android tab to play them on? Or did someone else pay for that, too?

I feel like I'm cheating some of these dev's. like instead of $.99. or $1.99 I should be giving them $5, $10, heck - $20 for some of what they've created!

2 words, entitlement culture.

**berryaddict338** · 04-25-2012, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by DocDRM

Why does everything have to be free? Why do so many people want everything in life GIVEN to them?

Who paid for your train ride? Do you give your services/efforts free to your employer? Why not? If you would just work for them for free, maybe they could offer some more cool things to their customers. As it is, since you force them to pay you, all they have to offer will become boring soon, and their business will soon fail.

Maybe what people should do is just pay for the things in life they need and want, and quit asking for someone else to foot the bill. If you can't afford $3 or $4 bucks each for a handful of games, how can you afford a few hundred $$$$ for a PlayBook, iPad, or Android tab to play them on? Or did someone else pay for that, too?

I feel like I'm cheating some of these dev's. like instead of $.99. or $1.99 I should be giving them $5, $10, heck - $20 for some of what they've created!

I do understand what you're saying, but how come I could log in to Google play on my phone and I got the option of download cool really cool games for free! Isn't about being cheap, and I do pay my car fare on the train, but that doesn't have nothing to do with pb poor app selection. Is crazy how I can login to Google play on my phone and any free game on the feature display is cooler than any pay app game on playbook,and now bringing back my point I could either pick a free cool game or app..or a another even cooler or convenient app for purchase. That's what I mean! In app world you MUST PAY IN ORDER TO NOT GET BORED... I'm afraid if someday skype do come in app word, they first brag about it and then talk sweet... “SKYPE FOR ONLY 4.99$” like people live in another planet without know is free in every other platform, and people with the need will buy it but my point again..... Do you think RIM acting smart doing things like that?

**bluetroll** · 04-25-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by berryaddict338

I do understand what you're saying, but how come I could log in to Google play on my phone and I got the option of download cool really cool games for free! Isn't about being cheap, and I do pay my car fare on the train, but that doesn't have nothing to do with pb poor app selection. Is crazy how I can login to Google play on my phone and any free game on the feature display is cooler than any pay app game on playbook,and now bringing back my point I could either pick a free cool game or app..or a another even cooler or convenient app for purchase. That's what I mean! In app world you MUST PAY IN ORDER TO NOT GET BORED... I'm afraid if someday skype do come in app word, they first brag about it and then talk sweet... “SKYPE FOR ONLY 4.99$” like people live in another planet without know is free in every other platform, and people with the need will buy it but my point again..... Do you think RIM acting smart doing things like that?

do you understand that all the so called 'free' apps in Google Play have advertisements, where all paid App World apps DO NOT have ads?

**berryaddict338** · 04-25-2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by I am JT

It's called the free market. It doesn't need defending. You get to choose what is worth your hard earned dollars.

Exactly what I'm trying to say!!! At least let us choose for what we wanna pay, don't push us to buy because we don't have no choice, and then again people... Do you think RIM should do that at this point?

**berryaddict338** · 04-25-2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by bluetroll

do you understand that all the so called 'free' apps in Google Play have advertisements, where all paid App World apps DO NOT have ads?

I do know that!! Why you are trying to make me look like cheap or like I'm wrong for saying the truth!?? I bet you people here would careless about advertising, but at least we got the choice of download the free or the advertising one! That's all I'm saying, I really like this tablet, but what I'm not liking is the psychological way RIM are pushing people to buy because we don't have no more choices in app world

**DocDRM** · 04-25-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by berryaddict338

I do understand what you're saying, but how come I could log in to Google play on my phone and I got the option of download cool really cool games for free! Isn't about being cheap, and I do pay my car fare on the train, but that doesn't have nothing to do with pb poor app selection. Is crazy how I can login to Google play on my phone and any free game on the feature display is cooler than any pay app game on playbook,and now bringing back my point I could either pick a free cool game or app..or a another even cooler or convenient app for purchase. That's what I mean! In app world you MUST PAY IN ORDER TO NOT GET BORED... I'm afraid if someday skype do come in app word, they first brag about it and then talk sweet... “SKYPE FOR ONLY 4.99$” like people live in another planet without know is free in every other platform, and people with the need will buy it but my point again..... Do you think RIM acting smart doing things like that?

Dear BerryAddict - have you not read any of the posts explaining to you the simple fact that pricing for apps/games has little or nothing to do with RIM? The exception being where RIM has made apps/games available to us for free that were previously paid only?

Let me sum up for you : apps/games are developed by individuals, partners, small companies, and BIG companies. THEY decide what platform to build them for, how to price them, whether to build free versions for trials, whether or not to build ads into their monetization/revenue streams, whether or not to charge for upgrades/additional levels, and when, if ever, to put them on sale.

Shockingly - they even decide the color scheme to be used.

**peter9477** · 04-25-2012, 01:21 PM

To the OP, and everyone who thinks all this stuff should be free, I have a proposal.

This weekend, my yard needs a whole lot of cleanup work. There are some old stumps to dig out, the garden needs tilling and some compost thrown on it, the lawn could use some fertilizer and raking, bushes need pruning, and I've got a couple of trees with what I think may be a pine beetle infestation to dig out.

Please show up Saturday morning around, say, 10:00, and bring work gloves, and a hat if you think it will be sunny.

Also be sure to provide your own lunch. See you then!

Note a key feature of my "proposal": I get something valuable out of it, and you don't get a dime. If you'd like, feel free to wear a T-shirt advertising something, and I may look at it while I lounge on the deck drinking a beer.

That is all.

**GreyGhostRos** · 04-25-2012, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by berryaddict338

I do understand what you're saying, but how come I could log in to Google play on my phone and I got the option of download cool really cool games for free! Isn't about being cheap, and I do pay my car fare on the train, but that doesn't have nothing to do with pb poor app selection. Is crazy how I can login to Google play on my phone and any free game on the feature display is cooler than any pay app game on playbook,and now bringing back my point I could either pick a free cool game or app..or a another even cooler or convenient app for purchase. That's what I mean! In app world you MUST PAY IN ORDER TO NOT GET BORED... I'm afraid if someday skype do come in app word, they first brag about it and then talk sweet... “SKYPE FOR ONLY 4.99$” like people live in another planet without know is free in every other platform, and people with the need will buy it but my point again..... Do you think RIM acting smart doing things like that?

The point is that RIM cannot force any developer to put something up for free.. It is a conscious choice of the developer whetehr or not to provide a free demo/ free with ads etc..
RIM In my opinion is doing its best to give the users a good experience ( HINT: Open up Google Play on your phone and check price of Asphalt 6: adrenaline, Modern Combat 2, Undercover..) But now RIM cannot go around asking each and every developer to give their work off for free..

P.S. The articles online about how the android Free apps with ads eat up your battery might be an interesting read..