[rupam95]

Since cascades was made available to developers about a week ago, how come there aren't any new Cascade apps for playbook?

Not even one Cascade app was created for the playbook after BB World.



*Also, where is that Kindle App? I have been waiting for almost a year. (no side-load)
This is just ridiculous. Not even an Android app. Psshh.

[Shao128]

Cascades is not part of the PlayBook OS 2.0. When PlayBook receives BB10 you will be able to run apps using Cascades.

As for Kindle you might want to look in the Android side loading forum. It was converted the first day.

[rupam95]

Cascades is not part of the PlayBook OS 2.0. When PlayBook receives BB10 you will be able to run apps using Cascades.

As for Kindle you might want to look in the Android side loading forum. It was converted the first day.

But isn't Scrapbook a Cascade app? It runs very smoothly on the PlayBook OS 2.0, so cascade is part of OS 2.0.

[Shao128]

That is a RIM app, and they can do things regular devs can't like include libraries. The DJ app does this too I believe. But for 99.999% of the devs out there, we can't do that.

[yllus]

A week? You're upset that developers haven't completely recoded their apps on a brand new framework nobody knew anything about prior in one week? I suppose I should be gratified that you think we software developers are that smart or efficient!

[BBplaybookJS]

*Also, where is that Kindle App? I have been waiting for almost a year. (no side-load)
This is just ridiculous. Not even an Android app. Psshh.

Hey it's no one's fault but yours if you insist on a specific reading app. There are several native apps available, if you insist on using a specific one you have two options try and talk the manufacturer into producing one or use another platform.

Your intransigence is not BlackBerry's problem.

[dynot]

There was one guest with Thornsten at BBW who stated that it took them all of one or two days to convert an app using cascades. I forget which app it was. But yes, I too expected to see some cascades apps start trickling out.

If some libraries are only available to RIM how did those demo apps use them? RIM is in no position to restrict access to those libraries. You'd think that they'd want to encourage devs to crank out those cascades apps now. If they're really waiting for BB10 to come to the PB, which I understand will be about 6 months after BB10 phones are released, then its going to be a long uphill climb for the PB and by that time they'll be competing with perhaps the iPad 4 with a superior OS and again, playing catch-up.

Maybe 1 week is kind of quick but I was certainly expecting to see some cascades implementations sooner rather than later. Heck, they spent a lot of energy bragging about how easy and quick it is to develop on this platform!

[llllBULLSEYE]

You can Sideload Kindle app
Had this on my Playbook since December works great on the PB.
As far as cascades you're really gonna have to be patient.
We will have them soon enough.

[Shao128]

If some libraries are only available to RIM how did those demo apps use them? RIM is in no position to restrict access to those libraries. You'd think that they'd want to encourage devs to crank out those cascades apps now. If they're really waiting for BB10 to come to the PB, which I understand will be about 6 months after BB10 phones are released, then its going to be a long uphill climb for the PB and by that time they'll be competing with perhaps the iPad 4 with a superior OS and again, playing catch-up.

Because select few partners were given the BETA (Pay attention to that word) NDK a week or 2 before everyone else.

BETA - as in not ready for general use, it was released so devs can get their apps ready for BB10. There are bugs with it, and new things will be add/changed.

Not sure where you heard 6 months after the phones for PB to get BB10....

[kennyliu]

Because select few partners were given the BETA (Pay attention to that word) NDK a week or 2 before everyone else.

BETA - as in not ready for general use, it was released so devs can get their apps ready for BB10. There are bugs with it, and new things will be add/changed.

Not sure where you heard 6 months after the phones for PB to get BB10....

So, is it reasonable to expect that we won't see Cascades-based apps until October (or maybe later)?

[Shao128]

So, is it reasonable to expect that we won't see Cascades-based apps until October (or maybe later)?

There is speculation (nothing solid here), that cascades may be included in an upcoming PB OS update (not BB10).

[Innovatology]

Since cascades was made available to developers about a week ago, how come there aren't any new Cascade apps for playbook? Not even one Cascade app was created for the playbook after BB World.

Cascades is not available for PB yet, and won't be for a while. And even if it was, it's in beta at the moment, which means it's not suitable for distribution.

Besides... A week??? Get real! It takes longer than that just to get an app approved.

[13echo4]

If some libraries are only available to RIM how did those demo apps use them? RIM is in no position to restrict access to those libraries. You'd think that they'd want to encourage devs to crank out those cascades apps now. If they're really waiting for BB10 to come to the PB, which I understand will be about 6 months after BB10 phones are released, then its going to be a long uphill climb for the PB and by that time they'll be competing with perhaps the iPad 4 with a superior OS and again, playing catch-up.

Wow already a new ipad. So they gonna finally upgrade the ios? What are they going to go to or update the ios with? Gots to be big to be superior.

[greatwiseone]

Since cascades was made available to developers about a week ago, how come there aren't any new Cascade apps for playbook?

Not even one Cascade app was created for the playbook after BB World.



*Also, where is that Kindle App? I have been waiting for almost a year. (no side-load)
This is just ridiculous. Not even an Android app. Psshh.

Go complain to Amazon. They are the ones who issued a press release saying they would support the PlayBook with a Kindle app and then refuse to do it.

[kenchang83]

So, is it reasonable to expect that we won't see Cascades-based apps until October (or maybe later)?

forgot where i read that, but someone did mention that apps based on Cascades will not be approved and released by app world until BB10 hit the market. i think it's understandable, new hardware + new apps = new start

[varunsain]

Since cascades was made available to developers about a week ago, how come there aren't any new Cascade apps for playbook?

Not even one Cascade app was created for the playbook after BB World.

*Also, where is that Kindle App? I have been waiting for almost a year. (no side-load)
This is just ridiculous. Not even an Android app. Psshh.

No ones in a hurry you see?

What's the matter? Why don't you just side-load? Even though I don't think it's the best way to obtain an app.. It's your only way now and why not if you have been waiting for over a year? Wonder why?

And Cascades, HTML5, Air all are going to be mixed up to make apps..

You know we are expecting Super-Apps! Not Kindle!

[wuulfy]

why dont you just buy a kindle?

[varunsain]

That would just solve the problem.. but that's not what we're here for..

[dynot]

Not sure where you heard 6 months after the phones for PB to get BB10....

I read it in a post on these forums. Wasn't sure if it was fact or not but haven't heard anything else about when it would come out on the PB. Except that it would be updated to 2.1.

BETA - as in not ready for general use, it was released so devs can get their apps ready for BB10. There are bugs with it, and new things will be add/changed.

What I don't understand is why we have a scrapbook app used by a minimum number of owners (maybe 20% at best) developed with Cascades and a browser which is probably used by the majority of users (over 90%???) developed with AIR. Why not get maximum impact by using Cascades to upgrade the browser. I know you say its a beta but I assume the same beta was used to create scrapbook and the calculator and they look pretty neat.

Don't mean to be argumentative here but some things just don't make sense to me and I'm just venting!

[BBplaybookJS]

So, is it reasonable to expect that we won't see Cascades-based apps until October (or maybe later)?

That's is the understanding I had

[BB_Bmore]

This is just a rumor but I think we may have a cascades built browser with 2.1

Also in 2.1 Android will have multi tasking capabilities and probably bumped up from 2.3

This will give android apps a much better feel along with performance boost.

I imagine Kindle and other android apps will feel a bit closer to Native with this so don't fret your little heart.

A dev beta of 2.1 could be released as soon as the end of the month so just be patient.

The playbook is getting ready to get a lot better even without BlackBerry10.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9670 using Tapatalk

[yllus]

This is just a rumor but I think we may have a cascades built browser with 2.1

That would be lovely but I think it's doubtful. Spending development time on redoing something that already works can't possibly be a priority at RIM currently.

[BB_Bmore]

That would be lovely but I think it's doubtful. Spending development time on redoing something that already works can't possibly be a priority at RIM currently.

Actually its very doubtful that the current browser will stick around.

Michael Clewely himself stated in a tweet that they will not be working on the current browser anymore. The current browser is built with air fyi.

The plan is to scrap the current browser for something much better and while he didn't outright say the new one is being built with cascades, he did hint to it playfully in a tweet.

One of the reasons you don't see bookmark management and other customization with the current browser is because they are done building on it. It was a temporary solution to build it using air until cascades was further along.

[mandony]

Since cascades was made available to developers about a week ago, how come there aren't any new Cascade apps for playbook?

LOL OP, was you expecting magic?
As said, "Rome was not made in a day"

[wuulfy]

LOL OP, was you expecting magic?
As said, "Rome was not made in a day"

rome? I was hoping for Milan.