[Jonathank]

How many games do you need on your tablet? I would think like 10 or so would keep you entertained. Ok PlayBook you have your games down pac, I love all my games. What are people saying lack of Apps? Apps R a thing of the past, Example you have a Bank App to access your account info WHY? because we did not have a real internet experience on our mobile devices and was not able to access 99% of things online, So there was a work around and we called it an "App" Guess what? we have evolved and apps are not as important because we have the REAL web. My main use for my tablet is browsing the web and the web without flash I consider NOT a true internet experience hence the NEED of Apps ..

[madman0141]

People want the availability of apps because other tablets tend to have large numbers of them and the "judge" the devices with less as a poor device.
With that being said a few special apps especially in the area where the tablet is marketed would add to the popularity of the device.

[sportline]

playbook would have been a great success if launched with same level of application (from news to games and entertainment) as samsung galaxy tab 7". would have been selling by millions, as its 3 times better, hardware wise.

[peter_betos]

Some people just want a concrete answer to the question "What amazing app would they come up next?" instead of "What app can still entertain me for 90 days of usage before it gets dry?". To each his own, I guess.

[littd]

Lack of apps is not restricted to trivial things like games. I have worked round the limitations with sideloading but it's still tragic that there's no native Kindle reader, decent Adobe reader, functional DocsToGo. Bugs in the browser limit how you can work round things like Facebook. I agree we don't need millions of useless apps but we do need the basics right.

[swyost]

What I don't get is how some people still believe marketing BS like full internet when it is absolutely not the case. Of course, all of the Android tablets also offer the same level of almost full internet experience. Actually, they are now more functional since the Playbook is limited to the cooked in version of Flash.

I also don't get why anyone would think that a tablet is all about games, especially since RIM marketed the thing as professional grade, etc., etc.. You want a few apps that you have on other platforms but not on the Playbook. How about: Autodesk AutoCAD WS, Autodesk Sketchbook Pro (not the silly express version), Autodesk Design Review, Adobe Acrobat Reader (a full version), Adobe Create PDF, Adobe Photoshop Touch, Adobe Ideas (another touch app), Microsoft OneNote, a bona fide Office app (or at least a selection of options), a selection of browsers so that one can work around sites that don't like a stock browser, apps to effectively use Skydrive, Epson or HP iprint apps, anything that would read DSLR raw files, a functional GIS app, and a selection of web design apps. All are loaded on my other tablet - a Transformer Prime. Note that none of the stuff listed are about games or entertainment and all are painfully lacking. One could also look at those areas as well, whether it be Netflix or Hulu Plus, or a non-side loaded version of the Kindle Reader, or Skype (which can be either of value personally or professionally).

Parroting back useless marketing slogans about the internet experience does not address the reality that some of us actually do use a tablet for more than web browsing.

[articulous]

Denial...

Once the playbook gets full NDK and cascades release there will be a huge slew of apps, then everyone will look back at post like this and say "yes, it did suck compared to other tablets... it's so much better now"

[sportline]

2.0 and PIM doesn't make people happy for long, so its got to be the applications and the overall user experience.

[varunsain]

That's true.. Apps were just an alternate because of Flash lacking in mobiles.. Now it's about Apps making the experience more convenient.. So in a way it's good to have Apps.. but people will never get it because Apps can never be enough..

Even if you cater to 99% there's still that 1% who don't have what they need and they will come in here and complaint..

But what's stupid is people complaining about RIM lacking apps because it's been an issue over a few years now.. and people still can't get over it..

Honestly, it's more about making a noise because all the trolls in here really know that talking about apps really makes a good argument which they can always win.. but what they don't realize is that there is a Sub-section on CB for PlayBook Apps and its bustling with threads on apps and information..

Ignore these people.. they just need someone to talk to..

[sportline]

well instagram is just an app, and its sold for a billion dollar just the other day.
i still don't understand the real reason why developers are not writing for playbook, is it just that the ecosystem is too small (not justifying the cost? or is it something else?

[Denus]

Lack of serious music/sound editing apps, that's for sure...
Tired to mess with Simple Piano knowing there's are multiple great software synths on the market. (Korg - Products)

As for the games, yeah, there're enough good games to be satisfied for a while (got 24 good native games installed, that should be enough for now).

And please stop calling every person who's complaining about something a troll, I'm sick and tired to read that on this forum! Most of the complaints are legit, and if we didn't care about RIM, we already moved on to another brand don't you think?

[Bakamushi]

I'm not particularly interested in Crackberry fanboys deciding what kind of apps and how many I want.

I just want the giant supermarkets that the others have.

[kennyliu]

I'm not particularly interested in Crackberry fanboys deciding what kind of apps and how many I want.

I just want the giant supermarkets that the others have.

Oh, you should have seen grocery stores in the Soviet Union. There was ALMOST everything you NEEDED: 1-2 types of bread, milk, 2 types of sausages (if you are lucky), eggs, even greyish-brownish toilet paper, but boy that assortment ...

[KennethD]

Lack of apps is not restricted to trivial things like games. I have worked round the limitations with sideloading but it's still tragic that there's no native Kindle reader, decent Adobe reader, functional DocsToGo. Bugs in the browser limit how you can work round things like Facebook. I agree we don't need millions of useless apps but we do need the basics right.

Yeah and evernote as well.

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[rc.simpsons]

Again. We want QUALITY, not QUANTITY.

1. I need one eBook reader app to read but I can't find a decent NATIVE app (I'm forced to used Amazon Android apps). The Kobo doesn't even work on OS 2.0!

2. One decent PDF reader is good for me and eventually I've to use RepliGo (which is another Android port)

3. There is obviously a native Facebook app on PB. But after using Facebook app on other platforms (e.g. iOS, Android) you will see the difference in usability and performance

Be frank, have you try to use the WEB version of Facebook on the browser of our PlayBook? That's a pain even it doesn't crash.

[torndownunit]

The interfaces on most of the apps I wish were on Playbook are far better than the web versions in pretty much every case. It's not even close with most in fact. And on top of that, some of the web mobile versions don't run well on the browser I have found as well. Maybe at one point the browser will be a better solution than apps, but that sure isn't right now. And it probably won't be anytime soon.

Out of my list of apps I miss, there is only one game. People on this forum seem to like to think that people only want apps for trivial reasons. It seems to aid with making an excuse for why there are so few apps. I mean, the apps I'd like to see on Playbook are apps that are available for every other platform. I don't requires a million apps. Just a lot of the basics that are available for every other device. Swyost made a very good list above.

[wuulfy]

its not about lack of apps, or even key apps....its about apps the competitors have, that the playbook doesnt. For instance if playbook did get kindle, how long before apple has something different that is percieved as better?

[hpulley]

Again. We want QUALITY, not QUANTITY.

1. I need one eBook reader app to read but I can't find a decent NATIVE app (I'm forced to used Amazon Android apps). The Kobo doesn't even work on OS 2.0!

2. One decent PDF reader is good for me and eventually I've to use RepliGo (which is another Android port)

3. There is obviously a native Facebook app on PB. But after using Facebook app on other platforms (e.g. iOS, Android) you will see the difference in usability and performance

Be frank, have you try to use the WEB version of Facebook on the browser of our PlayBook? That's a pain even it doesn't crash.

Kobo app works fine on OS2, what are you talking about? I wish it was more up to date but it works.

And there are several other ebook reading NATIVE apps available which read epub and mobi formats. Only for Kindle library access do you need Android.

What is wrong with using Android apps anyways? If they work, why complain?

Facebook web is not a pain, again what do you mean there? Yes the 2.0 browser going poof or hanging is bad and needs to be fixed if that is what you mean. Come on RIM, where is that 2.0.1 stability upgrade?

People don't really need 500000 apps, they need the Big Five. Sadly Playbook's one million users is very small compared to Android and iOS. However if it can be shown that more Playbook owners buy apps as Android users expect apps to be free then they might write apps for us. Otherwise we have to hope for Android apps that work in Playbook... Or just bite the bullet and use an Android tablet.

[joshua_sx1]

Just a thought... if APPS does not really matter, tablets running on Windows OS should emerge then...

[Gouk]

The interfaces on most of the apps I wish were on Playbook are far better than the web versions in pretty much every case. It's not even close with most in fact. And on top of that, some of the web mobile versions don't run well on the browser I have found as well. Maybe at one point the browser will be a better solution than apps, but that sure isn't right now. And it probably won't be anytime soon.

Out of my list of apps I miss, there is only one game. People on this forum seem to like to think that people only want apps for trivial reasons. It seems to aid with making an excuse for why there are so few apps. I mean, the apps I'd like to see on Playbook are apps that are available for every other platform. I don't requires a million apps. Just a lot of the basics that are available for every other device. Swyost made a very good list above.

Millions of apps would make a lot of difference.

[Fmar]

That's true.. Apps were just an alternate because of Flash lacking in mobiles.. Now it's about Apps making the experience more convenient.. So in a way it's good to have Apps.. but people will never get it because Apps can never be enough..

Even if you cater to 99% there's still that 1% who don't have what they need and they will come in here and complaint..

But what's stupid is people complaining about RIM lacking apps because it's been an issue over a few years now.. and people still can't get over it..

Honestly, it's more about making a noise because all the trolls in here really know that talking about apps really makes a good argument which they can always win.. but what they don't realize is that there is a Sub-section on CB for PlayBook Apps and its bustling with threads on apps and information..

Ignore these people.. they just need someone to talk to..

Clearly you are on a different planet!

This is my last post on the subject. The lack of decent pro downloads in the app store by major and imaginative dev's is valid and worrying concern. Now I'm sure you would be first to tout the strong hardware and abilities of the PB... as you have clearly demonstrated. However, to prove a point visually... a few videos for you to watch.

Knock them if you will with the mantra you don't need such and such aps... but just remember you do not represent the complete demographic of the PB community, what they aspire to or what they may like to have.

The PB app store does not have a single app that comes close to the imagination, use, design scope, ingenuity or pure professionalism that these apps have. I challenge you personally to find like for like Varunsain and prove me wrong.

That said, having read the Cascades thread by Biggulpseh I'm bailing out of the discussing the PB failings until cascades reach us. By then my PB will about 2 years old, running terrible aps and probably way behind the tech curve. But bailing out it is, and not another negative word from me.

So some videos: (understand I do not own an Ipad anymore)

[GeneralHerzog]

Again. We want QUALITY, not QUANTITY.

1. I need one eBook reader app to read but I can't find a decent NATIVE app (I'm forced to used Amazon Android apps). The Kobo doesn't even work on OS 2.0.

I just finished reading my 9th book on kobo and 2.0, The Hunger Games being the 9th. It was fine.

I assume you are having issues with your kobo install?

[canito338]

How many games do you need on your tablet? I would think like 10 or so would keep you entertained. Ok PlayBook you have your games down pac, I love all my games. What are people saying lack of Apps? Apps R a thing of the past, Example you have a Bank App to access your account info WHY? because we did not have a real internet experience on our mobile devices and was not able to access 99% of things online, So there was a work around and we called it an "App" Guess what? we have evolved and apps are not as important because we have the REAL web. My main use for my tablet is browsing the web and the web without flash I consider NOT a true internet experience hence the NEED of Apps ..

That's only your opinion and I respect that! But what makes you think personal people care about that,or even crazier tell them apps are thing of the past? So if if something of the past.. Why PlayBook haven't get the acceptance? Because lacks big names apps!! So you're telling us android and ios are number 1 and 2 because they lack of apps, you won't change reality, don't matter how many threads you make trying to convince a majority and make us think we are wrong because we want skype,tango or netflix... Android does have full flash even before blackberry and they didn't relly just on that!.. They knew they need apps in order to compete and they did! RIM hasn't realize yet!

[barskin]

On My PlayBook, I do not have many apps that pretty elementary, and they are on my Android tablet.

Bank of America(tablet app)
eBay
New York Times
Huffington Post (we supposedly get that on PB, but all I have is an icon that brings up a blank page)
Politico
Salon.com
Slate
Wall Street Journal




And, no, the internet browser is not just as good. Example: My Wall Street Journal app (yes, I pay for a subscription, and it's pricey) allows my to save articles, saves the last three days, notifies me when the current day's issue is available, etc.). The eBay app notifies me when something I am watching is about to sell. The Huffington Post news glide edition for tablets is fabulous; it is a whole different experience from the standard internet pages. Politico notifies me with news flashes.

And this is just a small list.

These are just a few things. And, no, the Internet is not just as

[GreyGhostRos]

I made sure The Playbook had all the apps I "Need" (4 at max :P) either native or android sideloads.. Everything is just like salad toppings..
Most of the apps that constitue the "large" collection in Apple and Android store might not exactly be useful to everyone..
But then I guess i'm one of the few people in the world not tweeting and stuff so maybe i'm not the best judge..
Anyway in my opinion it all depends on an individuals needs I would guess.. rest is all for tech site comparission / reviews sake..