Want to buy playbook! Few questions!
1. will the playbook most propably ship with
2. Can i still sideload and istall android apps on 2.0.7xxx
3. am i forced to update to 2.1 once its released?
Most important for me is that it will run android apps.
I have read smth about localbar (what is it?) not working on 2.0.7xxx
So is it save to buy a playbook and what will be possible if it should be on 2.0.7xxx?
- 05-07-2012, 03:22 AM #2
It's absolutely safe to buy a playbook, they are fantastic little devices and I have personally been using it more and more over time. You start out slow, playing with it, throwing on a bunch of games and dumb apps just to see what it can do. Then you actually find "real-world" uses for it, and it becomes a part of you. Okay, that might be a little overboard. I speak for myself only here :P
Hope you're happy with whatever decision you make here, and I also hope that you found this information useful!
**EDIT: I just noticed that was your first post, welcome to Crackberry membership :P
- CrackBerry User
05-07-2012, 03:30 AM #3
- 23 Posts
The PlayBook doesn't really "ship" with an OS. Instead when you first turn it on you will connect the PlayBook to the Internet, the latest OS will then download and install.
2)You can sideload Android apps on the current version (220.127.116.118).
3) You will not be forced, but 2.1 looks to improve android app support by adding a camera API and "multitasking". 2.1 will not remove the ability to sideload Android apps. However, you may have more difficulty pirating native PlayBook apps
4) I have no idea about localbar, I use DDPB to sideload Android apps.
Last edited by ChromiumNitrate; 05-07-2012 at 03:38 AM.
- 05-07-2012, 03:33 AM #4
Mine absolutely shipped with an OS.
i would like to root it.
but im confused with all that versions!
So my pb should be virgin out of the box?
If i want to root it i should not update to 18.104.22.168xxxx
so i gotta do some cfp thingy at first boot?
Isnt 22.214.171.124xxx the actual firmware?
ok got it 126.96.36.199xxx is in the past!
were at 188.8.131.52xxx
So if my pb comes with that version its not rootable?
Its still possible to sideload until 2.1?
How easy is it to sideload convert and install?
Are there signs developers will provide apps after 2.1 or are we screwed?
So without rooting the only thing i loose is:
direct android market (which is not bad because of sideload) and usb host?
Thanx in advance
- CrackBerry Abuser
05-07-2012, 07:52 AM #10
- 321 Posts
I would suggest that people on here are potentially trying to force a PB sale. But OP, have you considered, that if Android apps are that important perhaps you should get an Android tablet? I'd recommend the Galaxy Tab 7.7, it has 100% Android compatibility.
Playbook's Android compatibility is limited. not everything is available and of what is available not all of it works all the time. the whole android compatibility thing is actually dreadful. fortunately, most of us have no real need for it.
But like i say, DO NOT buy a Playbook because you have heard it runs Android apps. this is the fastest way to disappointment and regretting your purchase.
05-07-2012, 09:17 AM #11
- 19,480 Posts
One other clarifying point. If the unit is the normal new unit, it does not matter what OS is on it - when you power it up the first time, it requires WIFI and will not do anything until you upgrade to the current OS, no matter what OS (actually, some kind of loader - the unit will NOT work out of the box) is packaged on the unit.
well im just getting a pb now!
if not every android app runs its fine.
from this forum i get that its quality build and has a good value for the money.
Im getting one for 189€
compared to galaxy 7.7 400€
Its mostly for surfing the web.
but tv out and streaming would be cool if it works.
Also usong it as tv remote or desktop remote is in my mind.
If these things work apps are not that important.
- 05-07-2012, 10:20 AM #13
so once im home i can (have to) go to version 184.108.40.206xxx?
i think i have to update at first start to use it so i guess rooting is no option for me?
Sorry but i think ill have a few questions later...
Regarding installing .bar files etc
but i guess i will find tuts on this forum?
From playing with it in the store i have to say the os is pretty responsive compared to stuttering android....
Well so far so good...
Now i have to find out what is possible and what is not!
but for 189€ this is worth a try...
- 05-07-2012, 10:35 AM #15
thanx guys for all the answers!
But one thing!
whats up with this cfp thing?
i understood its smth i need to do at first boot to keep the pb at 220.127.116.11xxx
Is this still possible / actual or is it old at not possible anymore?
- CrackBerry Abuser
05-07-2012, 10:53 AM #17
- 321 Posts
As for the Android player, I PAID for an app only to discover it was android, i was very put out, i do have Skype, Tumblr, and Kindle sideloaded, but dislike the fact you can only use one at a time. not that i have found much use for them anyway, i barely use skype and when i have to i do it on the PC, i prefer Kobo to Kindle and use Copious notes instead of Tumblr,
Its a decent enough feature to have, and I grant it brought over a lot of developer interest in the PB, but sadly as a selling feature... it sucks. Many people bought PB's based on hearing it would run android apps, and assume that the PB will have access to the Playstore, and run android apps as thought they were native, which alas isn't the case, and almost everyone i've heard of buying a Playbook because of the Android compatibility has come away disappointed.
hey its me again
i really dont want to disturb but im home now and kind of stuck!
I have not turned on the pb yet!
So what i would like to know is:
Is there still a chance to root it with some cfp thing i found on this forum yes or no?
"Yes it is possible to root a fresh Playbook.
1. Find cfp 18.104.22.168 online + 4869 firmware.
2. Run: cfp load 4869.signed
3. When above is successful, continue with setup and allow update to complete.
4. Before it reboots (while counting down 10 seconds to reboot), run the following command:
5. You now have a fully set up 4869 firmware that is rootable using Dingleberry 3.3.3.
Step #4 is most important. Otherwise you will have non-rootable PB."
Or should i just switch it on and connect to my wireless network in order to update to recent Os version?
I just dont want to miss anything before updating
Last edited by sparksta; 05-07-2012 at 11:37 AM.
- 05-07-2012, 12:24 PM #19
- 05-07-2012, 09:27 PM #20
Thanks for commenting though! That was a pretty informative comment, and again, likely exactly what my situation was when I opened it.