- 02-11-13, 12:56 PM #101
- CrackBerry User
02-11-13, 01:33 PM #104
- 15 Posts
I only got my PB at Christmas so I am not as desperate as some on here for an update. From reading posts on this thread and many others it seems to me that people expect too much from BB. How many of you have bought a laptop with Windows 7 on it? Have MS upgraded you to windows 8? No they want you to pay for it. My opinion is BB have said it will be released this year so, when it is released I'll be happy and I may have learnt a lot more about my PB by then. Thanks to all the posters who give tips to us newbies who have made the switch to an awesome piece of kit for the price.
- 02-11-13, 01:35 PM #105
I paid $700 on day one and have gotten exactly what I expected. The issue I have now is with the lost bridge functionality that comes with Z10. I'm dying to upgrade from my Storm II, but I LOVE the way bridge functions with it. Just a concern, not a show stopper....
Oh, I've never used native email either, but if you want a Z or Q10, we'd better learn it and get used to it. At least for a while, eh?
- CrackBerry Genius
02-11-13, 02:32 PM #107
- 3,530 Posts
- 02-11-13, 02:35 PM #108
Are us playbook users getting screwed?
Honestly some of these new games for Z10 should be available for PLAYBOOK too. I feel a little screwed over in that sense. Maybe they will come to the PLAYBOOK ...soon...
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- 02-11-13, 04:04 PM #109
All relative, though I would be pissed if I was in your shoes. I bought it knowing Email was coming. Games I like HAD started to appear. And I got a great sized model for an wicked price
- 02-11-13, 04:20 PM #110
Sorry but can't we agree that Blackberry should either confirm or deny that BB10 is coming to all or some models of the Playbook ? Why can't BB be honest and upfront about it. Currently somewhere in the world there may be a Playbook in stock that someone is buying because they think BB10 was promised.
- CrackBerry Genius of Geniuses
02-11-13, 08:24 PM #114
- 9,399 Posts
Part of the problem is that ANY time they say something, it is parsed down word by word and scrutinized for what may be hidden meaning or intentional deception. If they mention a rough date, people freak out and count the minutes that it was late with vile contempt, even if it's only a timezone difference.
It's not like making a pie. There's not a set baking time. Issues arise as you move forward that can't always be foreseen and it is therefore, hard to set a date. A project I'm working on right now is a good example. Moving 2TB of data to storage. The first 40% moved quickly but the remaining 60% contained so many small files that it has taken 5 times as long and we are still not done...
- 02-12-13, 12:34 AM #116
I think an update will come, but I wonder, why does everyone want it so much? If the current OS isn't satisying you, why didn't you return the PB? If the current OS is satisfying you, aren't you afraid BB10 might remove some of what you loved about QNX? I wonder how much of this is the "Cult of the new" phenomenon. Historically, these circumstances lead to the launch of a new piece of hardware, with the failed device getting a barely working, un-optimized version of the new software that is then fully featured in the new hardware. Grandfathering people in off a de facto paid beta is wrong, but I think that is what happened here. RIM has no interest in Playbook owners in my opinion. They have no financial incentive to.
- 02-12-13, 12:58 AM #117
I just want Qt/Qml and Cascades from BB10 for the Playbook for easy development. That shouldn't take too much RAM. As it is, it's a pain to compile Qt for each new app and make do without system-specific widget styles.
- 02-12-13, 03:43 AM #119
If RIM had been honest about the Playbook from the beginning and acknowledged it was always going to be a work in progress, then those first buyers wouldn't be so angry today. Or not as angry
Nokia did that with its Maemo and Meego devices. Buyers knew they were getting bleeding-edge stuff with no real support behind them but a hacker community built up behind those devices, adding and fixing stuff that Nokia didn't bother to deal with. The problem with the Playbook is that it was marketed as a productivity tool to go along with Blackberry phones. A productivity tool isn't a beta test device, you expect the darn thing to work out of the box, and you sure as heck don't expect to be strung along by features promised two years after release. RIM could have a hard slog trying to convince disgruntled Playbook users why they should upgrade to BB10 phones which would break functionality with their tablets.
Anyone know what issues are holding back BB10 for PB? Chipset related stuff porting from the Z10's Qualcomm SnapDragon to the older OMAP architecture on the PB?
- 02-12-13, 04:38 AM #120
- 02-12-13, 05:21 AM #122
- 02-12-13, 06:09 AM #123
If it's not something technical holding them up then what would it be? I hope it's technical. Otherwise that leaves too broad a speculation as to what the issue is. Lol.
- 02-12-13, 06:15 AM #124
As to a new tablet, well I very much expect there are plans, but probably all up in the air at the moment. No doubt how BB10 fairs on the new handsets, and potentially on the PlayBook may make a difference. I wouldn't bet the plantation on there definitely being a new tablet - they've commented about it being difficult to make money in the tablet marketspace, so I suspect what happens now with BB10 and interest in it, and perhaps how it's perceived on the PlayBook may well strongly influence that. That's one of the reasons why I've previously commented that it probably makes sense to get it out for the PlayBook, sooner, rather than later.
That's not my personal wants influencing my take - I'm rather ambivalent to BB10 coming to the PlayBook, and I'll more than likely wait a while, leeching off the gotta-have-the-latest crowd to be my early adopters / beta testers - and that's even accepting that BB10 may well mean Skype and Kindle for the PlayBook. Personally, I'm in no rush - but conversely, I believe BlackBerry need to be, not necessarily to appease their existing PlayBook audience, but more to help with BB10 being as big as they'd hope, and to solidify what they do going forward in the tablet market.
All that said, I don't think it's quite so much revolution for the PlayBook - after all, it's OS is already QNX - so it's not so much a huge leap, as more of an incremental one, compared to existing handsets.
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-12-13, 06:32 AM #125
- 307 Posts
I just love it when all these responses to how the hardware is gonna work with BB10 come flashing out of no where and with no validation other than "well its not too fast on my crippled development release". Duh! Whats a crippled release got to do with a final release? RIM has said the BB10 OS will be ported to all devices. Do you really think they are so dumb that they have not considered the hardware side? Did they miss the boat because they didn't have BB10 ready for all these devices. Yes. But they were totally focused on making the Z10 as ready as they could. It is in there best interest to have as many devices in the BB10 realm because it brings in more developers for apps for the BB10 OS. Developers for the most part are driven by revenue. There are already plenty of Playbooks out there that having BB10 OS running would increase the revenue for these developers. Believe me RIM knows that.
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