[Vorkosigan]

Thank you OP. Very nice read.

I agree with the blog in many parts - especially the poor marketing done by RIM.

Also - i believe the ipad is on it's 3rd iteration - and when they charge that much for each new improvement no - i do not call that progress - i call it a combination of greed and stupidity.

I use my pb for almost everything - except reading ebooks - can't imagine anything better than my Sony ereader for that. The only app that is lacking to me is the pdf aspect - and truthfully there are a couple of apps even that work with that. I just don't like them.

However, as Snoozer said, it is quite impossible to have a positive thread on here without the bashers coming out. It's like putting red in front of a bull.

[Apelles123]

^^ Lmao. That's not an "article". It's a blog. It's some dude with an opinion. An opinion i agree with.

On the other hand it's tech blogs like CNET and others that have an army of writers that try and convince the public that their little tech blogs are "articles" from journalists reporting facts.

Fact is, it's not a good read unless you agree with the opinion of the blogger.

CNET and other sites are also beholden to Apple PR ,which blacklists those who criticize Apple. See ZDNet's Apple PR's dirty little secret by Jason D. O'Grady February 15 2011 in the Apple Core Blog

[alnamvet68]

Thanks OP; and yes, the usual suspect continues to spread his urinary incontinence on virtually every positive thread about the PlayBook since day one...that spells pathological trollery.

5 stars.

[NakedPaulToast]

I own a PB, iPad2, Galaxy Tab 10.1 and consider my PlayBook the best value, by far. And for what it's worth, BBOS 2 is my favorite OS Interface of the three.

But this "article" is nothing but an opinion piece and I certainly wouldn't consider it, "The Truth". Some of the opinion presented is in fact, far from the truth.

[kbz1960]

I have to wonder how many people have bank software, Web software beyond the browser etc on their desktop or laptop. I can't see them using the browser on them if they need apps to do everything on their tablet.

Are there even bank apps for desktops?

Anyway nice post.

[oldtimeBBaddict]

I don't need 800,000 apps. I very crucially don't even want 800,000 apps. What I would like... and honestly expect... from a top-tier tablet, is a top-tier, cross-platform, video conferencing app; a top-tier, cross-platform, monthly fee, not pay-per-view video streaming app; a top-tier eBook reading platform which allows me to buy and read eBooks from the publisher I've bought eBooks from for a decade or more; and a top-tier gaming platform which allows me to play the games my iPhone and Android friends are playing on their handhelds to play with them on my state-of-the-art tablet...

That's what I want... It's not even close to wanting 800,000 apps - more like four or five.

I, too, have no need for 800,000 or even 80 apps. This doesn't mean that they shouldn't be available. Not everyone needs or wants the same 4,5,or 100 apps.

[omniusovermind]

Thanks OP; and yes, the usual suspect continues to spread his urinary incontinence on virtually every positive thread about the PlayBook since day one...that spells pathological trollery.

5 stars.

It's getting worse too. In all seriousness, the hatred and venomous destructiveness those posts are displaying is starting to border on mentally ill proportions, and yet there's this "hey it's ok, we'll allow that to continue" blase faire about it. It's freakish! I don't get it. I'm Kinda starting to develop a weird fascination about it lol. I'm a gamer and I'm no stranger to angry kids with nasty social tendencies on forums, but I've honestly never seen sick to this degree continue unchecked for so long before. Almost makes me wish I was a psychiatrist so I could appreciate it more

I like your term though, pathological trollery has the makings of a new definition in psychology. Or maybe Serial Troll? Wants to be caught because he can't stop himself? LOL

[alnamvet68]

I have to wonder how many people have bank software, Web software beyond the browser etc on their desktop or laptop. I can't see them using the browser on them if they need apps to do everything on their tablet.

Are there even bank apps for desktops?

Anyway nice post.

What software apps there are for tablets in America, there are a few banks, and they haven't developed one for the PlayBook. Overseas, as in Austrailia, Canada, England, Spain, Scotland, et al, specific banking apps have been developed for the PlayBook.

[BlackBerry Guy]

Guys, posting a dissenting opinion doesn't make one a troll, especially if they are offering their own valid thoughts or opinions that could encourage discussion or inspire thought.

[alnamvet68]

Guys, posting a dissenting opinion doesn't make one a troll, especially if they are offering their own valid thoughts or opinions that could encourage discussion or inspire thought.

While this comment is true in most cases, one only needs to look at post history for certain individuals. When over 75% of an individual's posts marginalize threads, or are contrary to what the majority believes in, or instigate/initiate arguements, while fomenting anger and discontent, or constantly compare BB with other brands in an effort to bolster their arguements against a thread that is complimentary to BB products, then yes, that individual is guilty of trollery.

[stackberry369]

ffs I feel like I'm missing out now as I don't have a blackberry phone, RIM never advertised the fact that for a much better tablet experience you'll need a blackberry, I probably wouldn't of bought my playbook if id of known and would now be typing on the galaxy tab

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you don't need a bb to get web on pb,just use wifi hotspot on your phone.

[SnoozerBold]

Guys, posting a dissenting opinion doesn't make one a troll, especially if they are offering their own valid thoughts or opinions that could encourage discussion or inspire thought.

I agree 100% its the way its gone about in a mean, "I told you so" or "you device sucks" venom that gets to me and others. Look at the posts that derailed this thread. I agree with them on a number of points but they're dicks about it and that doesn't offer anything to the community, or conversation. It just turns threads into this garbage we're all discussing right now. I know it won't change so I don't know why I even care.

Would you or anyone go to a Linux User group and proclaim Linux sucks, it's worthless over and over again? And not expect someone to say something or throw you out? You'd be gone in no time. Now if you showed up and discussed why Linux never crossed over into the commercial home market and did it like a grown up and not a child in sure people would have no problem and might find the discussion engaging and fun.

I think some of us are Just tired of taking it on the chin, being ridiculed and having every thread turned into this just because we support, enjoy and want to talk about using and supporting the playbook In A PLAYBOOK AND BLACKBERRY forum. Debate is great. What goes on in this forum a lot of the time is ridiculous.

OK flame away..... I'm sure in a few users twisted minds I deserve it and have no business speaking my mind. I should just take it and watch ever thread turn into a blackberry hate circle .

[BigAl_BB9900]

I have to wonder how many people have bank software, Web software beyond the browser etc on their desktop or laptop. I can't see them using the browser on them if they need apps to do everything on their tablet.

Are there even bank apps for desktops?

Anyway nice post.

In the UK many of the major banks have apps - however these mostly run on iPad (think there are still some on Android)

In Turkey, the only bank apps I have seen run on Android, and I have only seen them on phones, not on a tablet

[Eumaeus]

It is a good read because he brings up a point I've been thinking about for some time.... If you've got a device that runs a great browser and pairs with your phone, why do you need 800,000 apps? If I can access my banks full website do I really need an app that offers a scaled down version of the full experience? I understand the need for some apps to simplify the Web and optimize it for a phone, but that's not necessary for every website and/or web service when you've got a PlayBook.

What's the URL for the website that will let me edit my videos? Or the website that serves as an amp for my guitar? Or one that drives my dslr remotely? Or lets me look up foreign words and phrases while I'm offline? Or compose e-mail when I'm offline (like, on a long overseas flight)?

If my life were so narrow that my main need was looking my bank account, the capabilities of my tablet would be the least of my problems.

The PB needs a rich developer community. The PB is A FREAKIN' COMPUTER. Computers NEED SOFTWARE. It astonishes me that this point is subject to argument.

[SnoozerBold]

What's the URL for the website that will let me edit my videos? Or the website that serves as an amp for my guitar? Or one that drives my dslr remotely? Or lets me look up foreign words and phrases while I'm offline? Or compose e-mail when I'm offline (like, on a long overseas flight)?

If my life were so narrow that my main need was looking my bank account, the capabilities of my tablet would be the least of my problems.

The PB needs a rich developer community. The PB is A FREAKIN' COMPUTER. Computers NEED SOFTWARE. It astonishes me that this point is subject to argument.

The playbook needs more apps and developers or it won't survive. You won't get an argument from me on that. It is a tablet computer and needs more software. I'm just surprised how many people did not know this going into the purchase. It could have saved many people a lot of head aches. I'm not saying this to be a . I did my research and knew what the pb had going into it. It does what I expected it too.

[Chinookman]

Marketing has been less then stellar.....a grand understatement!

Let's see how the rest of the year plays out....

[Bakamushi]

I think the article mentioned by the OP makes no sense at all. It's like the playbook and its OS had reached a sort of metaphysical status, the hardware being out of time, and the OS being powerful as an ark of the covenant.

Boasting of a device not being an app-runner, or not being meant to be satisfying alone, is also complete nonsense.

By the way imho this thread would require consistent moderation, I mean if the principle of sanctioning personal attacks against posters was to be respected.

[kennyliu]

I think the article mentioned by the OP makes no sense at all. It's like the playbook and its OS had reached a sort of metaphysical status, the hardware being out of time, and the OS being powerful as an ark of the covenant.

Boasting of a device not being an app-runner, or not being meant to be satisfying alone, is also complete nonsense.

By the way imho this thread would require consistent moderation, I mean if the principle of sanctioning personal attacks against posters was to be respected.

Have you noticed that the personal attacks are by the same people who have been screaming "Report personal attacks" in every thread?

But that's OK. When certain people don't have a valid counterargument, they resort to personal attacks and name calling. Some cowardly ones even take it one step further. That's expected.

[mikeplus1]

ffs I feel like I'm missing out now as I don't have a blackberry phone, RIM never advertised the fact that for a much better tablet experience you'll need a blackberry, I probably wouldn't of bought my playbook if id of known and would now be typing on the galaxy tab

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While RIM may not be known for advertising genius, everyone I know that bought a PB were looking forward to the bridge experience with their BB phones. Most every PB advertisement I have seen mentions the bridge feature including on blackberry.com and other similar sites, cannot speak for Best Buy, Staples and similar stores advertisements that sell or sold the PB, but they were mostly concentrating on selling Galaxy Tabs, iPads and such anyway. You could still pick up a really inexpensive BB phone to try it yourself, but be sure to get a model that is compatible with the PB bridge feature. If it still does not meet your needs and/or expectations, then sell the PB and get the Galaxy Tab.

[auditman]

Hi kenny you seem to know so much why not write your own. Instead of correcting his blog. I hope hope its not about how to scam a store.


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[Marty_LK]

ffs I feel like I'm missing out now as I don't have a blackberry phone, RIM never advertised the fact that for a much better tablet experience you'll need a blackberry, I probably wouldn't of bought my playbook if id of known and would now be typing on the galaxy tab

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I certainly never knew about the BB phone/PB experience when I bought my PB. But now that I'm aware of it, I have something outstanding to look forward to when I get either a 9900 Bold or one of the new BB10 devices coming out. Makes me quite anxious for a BB phone.

[canuck_67]

The truth is a 3 edged sword.

[BBplaybookJS]

Wow. Holy cow. Haven't seen anything more biased, misinformed, self-contradictory, and illogical before.

Really

Me too, are you referring to yourself?

[BBplaybookJS]

Here we go again:

- Android also has great browsers (much better in terms of functionality/features), but nevertheless there are tons of apps in Google Play.

- Web =/= apps on a 7" touchscreen device. If you believe otherwise, please, stop using the Messages app. You can check your email in the browser.

And I disagree with young in no way does the android browser come close to the playbook browser. What you keep espousing is an opinion one I disagree with.

[BBplaybookJS]

ffs I feel like I'm missing out now as I don't have a blackberry phone, RIM never advertised the fact that for a much better tablet experience you'll need a blackberry, I probably wouldn't of bought my playbook if id of known and would now be typing on the galaxy tab

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I agree it was a mistake not to market PlayBook primarily to BB and potential BB owners