RIM at IFA

**lawguyman** · 08-31-2011, 09:52 AM

Starting today in Berlin is an event that many Americans don't know about, IFA.

It is a huge consumer electronics exhibition. RIM will be there. It would be a great opportunity for RIM to release something nice or make an announcment of some kind. I don't know if anything will happen but it is a possibility.

IFA - Home

http://www.virtualmarket.ifa-berlin....on=showCompany

F2 · 08-31-2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by lawguyman

Starting today in Berlin is an event that many Americans don't know about, IFA.

It is a huge consumer electronics exhibition. RIM will be there. It would be a great opportunity for RIM to release something nice or make an announcment of some kind. I don't know if anything will happen but it is a possibility.

IFA - Home

Research in Motion Deutschland GmbH BlackBerry: IFA Virtual Market Place

That seems to apply to all things Rim!

**lawguyman** · 09-01-2011, 07:43 AM

If we get a big update soon, it will probably happen during IFA. Samsung has made major tablet and phone announcements this morning. Sony made some yesterday.

If we don't see one during IFA, it probably won't be until Devcon in October.

**rickgainsmith** · 09-01-2011, 07:46 AM

The tablet space is really heading up.

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**ericlc2** · 09-01-2011, 11:56 AM

I'd like to start the long weekend with OS2.0.

**bb.pl** · 09-01-2011, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by lawguyman

Starting today in Berlin is an event that many Americans don't know about, IFA.

It is a huge consumer electronics exhibition. RIM will be there. It would be a great opportunity for RIM to release something nice or make an announcment of some kind. I don't know if anything will happen but it is a possibility.

IFA - Home

Research in Motion Deutschland GmbH BlackBerry: IFA Virtual Market Place

Don't expect any announcement as all things point to the OS 2.0 release in late summer which can be as late as mid october to early November but likely before christmas, although I hear Australians have christmas in summer, so who knows.

**adrenaline_x** · 09-01-2011, 12:29 PM

Os Will need to be out before September 22nd the end of summer, or they will lose credibility and receieve a back lash from the media and all the people that bought the playbook.

**lawguyman** · 09-01-2011, 02:08 PM

Rim's Q2 2012 earnings call is only two weeks away. I expect at least there will be some talk about this update then.

**rickgainsmith** · 09-01-2011, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by adrenaline_x

Os Will need to be out before September 22nd the end of summer, or they will lose credibility and receieve a back lash from the media and all the people that bought the playbook.

lol...you still believe they have credibility to lose...

They are likely to come out and deny saying summer!

60 days ring a bell?

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F2 · 09-01-2011, 07:52 PM

What they really meant was the end of Summer, Summer Glau. She's fairly young so we have years to wait.

**togardergrosse** · 09-02-2011, 01:34 AM

Oh well, nothing new to see here..

*back to watch 500 Days of Summer*

**lnichols** · 09-02-2011, 01:35 AM

Keep your expectations extremely low with RIM and you will be only marginally disappointed. That said they have to get native e-mail by September 22, or like others have said, what little credibility they have left will be shot. You can't expect developers, consumers, etc. to support a platform that the company can't even properly support.

**Venichie** · 09-02-2011, 03:10 AM

Well to honest, I can only guess these discounted sales only means they need to play catch up before the big press show.
Anyways, I can only HOPE they don't disappoint. Although once it does come... I'm dreaming it'll put 50% of our minds to rest.

F2 · 09-02-2011, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by artsheart

Rumor today on ZD Net that Staples is selling the Playbook for 50% off ... soon.

Best Buy and Staples offering big discounts on the BlackBerry PlayBook | ZDNet

That's old news here - and here's probably where they first saw it!

**gfr3** · 09-03-2011, 02:44 AM

here some pics from the RIM Dome at the IFA out of a german BlackBerry Forum
[Sonstiges] Bilder vom RIM Dome auf der IFA Berlin - Taverne - BlackBerryBase.net - Euer BlackBerry Community Forum

**serversurfer** · 09-03-2011, 05:24 AM

BTW- the IFA is the LARGEST consumer tradefair for entertainment (electronics) in the world! BlackBerry is represented with a "dome"... Its a small tent... The appereance of RIM (tent, some devices 9900, 9810, 9850, playbook, curve) is more than poor... Europe seems to be an uninteresting market for RIM or the performance for an exhibition is nearly as dilettantish as the current product-palette and the capability of RIM to react in time for market tendencys... Very disappointing! ;-(

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**Skeevecr** · 09-03-2011, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by serversurfer

BTW- the IFA is the LARGEST consumer tradefair for entertainment (electronics) in the world! BlackBerry is represented with a "dome"... Its a small tent... The appereance of RIM (tent, some devices 9900, 9810, 9850, playbook, curve) is more than poor... Europe seems to be an uninteresting market for RIM or the performance for an exhibition is nearly as dilettantish as the current product-palette and the capability of RIM to react in time for market tendencys... Very disappointing! ;-(

The IFA is not the largest trade fair by any stretch of the imagination and claiming that just seems to come across as a way to complain about them based on their presence, your claim about Rim being uninterested in Europe is equally unfounded or did it escape your attention where they launched their entire new range of os7 devices, I'll give you a clue that it wasn't North America this time round.

**lawguyman** · 09-03-2011, 07:47 AM

IFA is as big as CES.

Not all companies exhibit at these kinds of shows or make them centerpieces of product launches or announcements.

RIM's presence is obviously small at IFA so RIM does not consider it very important. Because of that, it seems that RIMS will not use IFA to announce anything.

Samsung, Toshiba and Lenovo on the other hand used IFA to make major product announcements.

I don't think there is a right answer who is right or even if there is a right or wrong. But, CES is a huge show. No denying that.

**PineappleUnderTheSea** · 09-03-2011, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by gfr3

here some pics from the RIM Dome at the IFA out of a german BlackBerry Forum
[Sonstiges] Bilder vom RIM Dome auf der IFA Berlin - Taverne - BlackBerryBase.net - Euer BlackBerry Community Forum

That tent looks really crappy. That small doorway seems to want to keep you out rather to invite you in. What the heck were they thinking? At this point you'd think they'd want to have complete open access to the phones, not make people file in one at a time and be all crowded and sweaty in there.

**lnichols** · 09-03-2011, 09:12 AM

They need to fire the manager at RIM in charge of handling these type of events. Is Jim still filling in the for CMO position? If so they need to get that filled quickly.

**mithrazor** · 09-03-2011, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by lnichols

They need to fire the manager at RIM in charge of handling these type of events. Is Jim still filling in the for CMO position? If so they need to get that filled quickly.

Calm down. I'm pretty sure RIM knows what they're doing. They JUST came out with ALL OS7 devices. They didn't even really need to be at IFA if anything.

**kill_9** · 09-03-2011, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rgainsmi

They are likely to come out and deny saying summer!

I am sure the co-CEOs really meant Indian Summer which tends to occur randomly in the midst of Winter. Your definition of Summer is obviously faulty.

RIM - "the communications company that fails to communicate"

**buckwylder** · 09-04-2011, 12:57 PM

it will become available when rim decides to make it available. it is not something worth worrying about. when you have it, you'll suddenly stop worrying about it and likely find some other useless thing you have no control over to worry about.

people are funny - peculiar not haha

**stevedee** · 09-04-2011, 09:20 PM

Although it is true that we North Americans would be less than enthused with the RIM 'Dome', I must comment that this kind of structure is very attractive as a design concept to Europeans and Germans in particular. I went to the IFA website and when trolling through onto the Playbook page, the picture of the PB looked a bit different. When I enlarged it, I noticed that the App headings were a bit different, as well as the icons displayed. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the headings are All, Games, Media, Social and Favorites. And I see icons for Messages, Calendar and Contacts, yet at the status icon corner there is no Bridge icon...

Here's the pic itself:Playbook from IFA.jpg

And I went to a commentator from IFA who hosts BlackberryBest, and on his Facebook page Facebook/BlackberryBest, his profile pic has a Torch 9800 and a Playbook, and the PB has an obscured but different again set of headings and a BBM icon visible although it is different again than what we have.

Just stirring the pot a bit here!

**Kiddo2050** · 09-05-2011, 11:29 AM

Just really old picture I think, when RIM hoped they'd have thing like a calendar on the PB when it first came out.

JB already said in May or something that's there would be native email on the PB "in something like 60 days" so there is no credibility left summer Shummer it'll come out when it comes out. I don't expect it to play android apps before the end of 2012. Getting Android to operate smoothly on the playbook, my guess is never.

Don't get me wrong, I like the playbook, but RIM delivering on anything... you can only say beleive it when we see it, and maybe not even then.