Portrait email in os 2.1

**Bakamushi** · 05-02-2012, 07:00 AM

I just saw news on the web that RIM would make OS 2.1 available in the summer. I think that's great news and more generally I am optimistic because RIM seem intently focused on the OS for the future phones, and playbook users will benefit from it.

However, knowing that with RIM you can always expect surprises, I got a bit suspicious by seeing that "portrait email" is listed as one of the main features of OS 2.1. Portrait email... is that even an operating system feature ?

Please relieve me of a horrible doubt : they wouldn't by chance have removed portrait email purposely from the last two updates, in order to make OS 2.1 more interesting ?

No they would never have done that. Would they ?

**SteveCoops** · 05-02-2012, 07:02 AM

I don't care if it was removed, as long as it's coming! So annoying when apps (especially ones that come with the device as standard) don't work in both orientations! Just poor imo.

**varunsain** · 05-02-2012, 07:02 AM

yea they did it.. they also had a cd player which they removed only to bring it back wid os2.1

**wtaudy** · 05-02-2012, 09:29 AM

Expecting. Woòô

**BerryClever** · 05-02-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Bakamushi

I just saw news on the web that RIM would make OS 2.1 available in the summer. I think that's great news and more generally I am optimistic because RIM seem intently focused on the OS for the future phones, and playbook users will benefit from it.

However, knowing that with RIM you can always expect surprises, I got a bit suspicious by seeing that "portrait email" is listed as one of the main features of OS 2.1. Portrait email... is that even an operating system feature ?

Please relieve me of a horrible doubt : they wouldn't by chance have removed portrait email purposely from the last two updates, in order to make OS 2.1 more interesting ?

No they would never have done that. Would they ?

Sounds like a good read. Do you have the link? I would be interested in seeing the main features (or proposed main features). Also, I will be looking forward to portrait mode on email!

**berry_** · 05-02-2012, 12:08 PM

it has to be more than portrait email, that doesn't take months to develop.
I hope they made a native bbm app for the PB but it isn't in the list of updates in 2.1

**Bakamushi** · 05-02-2012, 12:15 PM

My source is this article on Berryreview.

The presence of "portrait Email..." among deeper OS novelties seems to me a bit like those children games where you have to find the intruder in an image.

I would have better understood if os-wide portrait mode had not been available from the start, and relatively easy to code for developers who wanted to.

**samab** · 05-02-2012, 12:24 PM

Please relieve me of a horrible doubt: you have a history of starting somewhat trollish threads and this seems to be another one.

No you would never have done that. Would you?

**BerryClever** · 05-02-2012, 11:16 PM

I am mixed about BerryReview, but if this is the case, there are some good stuff coming to 2.1. I doubt that will be it though, there should be more, especially since it is coming in a few months (if true).

The native Browser app is great, but I would image that will be getting a much needed bookmark manager. I think there will be some other large 'tweaks' like that (along with the above mentioned portrait email) with 2.1. PlayBook is getting better all the time! And now after seeing the new BB10 phones, I will be holding off on getting a Bold until those are released (will be my first BB phone, so I figure I will get the best).

**sportline** · 05-02-2012, 11:27 PM

which one will come out first, OS 2.1 or playbook 4G?

**louzer** · 05-02-2012, 11:45 PM

Eventually, the long laundry list of bugs will be fixed (probably in BB10). The reason that the bookmarks issue has not been addressed yet is because the browser itself is native code, but it's 'skin' (ie pulldown settings menu, tab controller, bookmarks, history, and more) are written in Adobe Air and not in native code with the Cascades UI. It makes no sense to take the time to develop these if they are only 'placeholders'.

The same is true for the picture viewer, video player, podcast app, and many more. As the OS matures, these features will become native and, therefore, more feature rich and working the way they should.

**miroozy** · 05-02-2012, 11:58 PM

Portrait Email, Calendar, and Contacts
App World Carrier Shelf
Bridge Texting and WiFi Transport Support
Android Multi-Tasking
Camera API and In-app Payments for developers
Over-the-air activation with Mobile fusion
Personal Encryption

um not satisfied

**Spinal** · 05-03-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by miroozy

Portrait Email, Calendar, and Contacts
App World Carrier Shelf
Bridge Texting and WiFi Transport Support
Android Multi-Tasking
Camera API and In-app Payments for developers
Over-the-air activation with Mobile fusion
Personal Encryption

um not satisfied

music equalilizer
multi-tabs running in the browser
disable backlight timer

would be nice too.

**kennyliu** · 05-03-2012, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by miroozy

Portrait Email, Calendar, and Contacts
App World Carrier Shelf
Bridge Texting and WiFi Transport Support
Android Multi-Tasking
Camera API and In-app Payments for developers
Over-the-air activation with Mobile fusion
Personal Encryption

um not satisfied

I hope this does not mean that our free RAM will go down even more.

Anyway, an option to disable Android player would be great.

**varunsain** · 05-03-2012, 01:18 AM

This is turning out to be a wish list.. Anyways.. Lot's of developments are awaited in the OS2.1 which will be with us soon! Updates are never going to stop! All the way until BB10

**Bakamushi** · 05-03-2012, 02:09 AM

But why don't they release portrait email immediately ? It's not like it's technically bundled with "android multi-tasking" or something kernel-level...

**Jethro-Ten** · 05-03-2012, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by samab

Please relieve me of a horrible doubt: you have a history of starting somewhat trollish threads and this seems to be another one.

No you would never have done that. Would you?

whether he did or not, it's still a very relevant point is it not?

A machine that can go portrait has built in vendor supplied apps that can't go portrait.
amazingly poor.
For me it was no big deal, I'm happy with it as it is, but it does reflect on how poor BB was in this instance.
J

**BBplaybookJS** · 05-03-2012, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by miroozy

Portrait Email, Calendar, and Contacts
App World Carrier Shelf
Bridge Texting and WiFi Transport Support
Android Multi-Tasking
Camera API and In-app Payments for developers
Over-the-air activation with Mobile fusion
Personal Encryption

um not satisfied

LOL, some people never are..........

**BBplaybookJS** · 05-03-2012, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jethro-Ten

whether he did or not, it's still a very relevant point is it not?

A machine that can go portrait has built in vendor supplied apps that can't go portrait.
amazingly poor.
For me it was no big deal, I'm happy with it as it is, but it does reflect on how poor BB was in this instance.
J

To the best of my knowledge bridge email has always been able to go to portrait mode, the only time I've ever used it is by accident

**hpulley** · 05-03-2012, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by BBplaybookJS

To the best of my knowledge bridge email has always been able to go to portrait mode, the only time I've ever used it is by accident

Agreed. List or single message is what you get, not that useful really.

Ed: only time it is convenient is when I am using stupid gingerbread phone only android apps that only work in portrait...

**Bakamushi** · 05-03-2012, 10:32 AM

Yes but we were talking about native email.

And no it is not that useful at all. You don't see why you would use your thumbs to type message quickly on a 7" tablet while in transports.

Personal attacks, off-topic replies and technically irrelevant comments. Nothing to explain why portrait mode is not enabled now. The same fanboys are going to scream a high-pitched teenage haka when portrait mode is released : "Yay Yay Yay, We are badass, We are badass, We have the portrait email that nobody has..."

**samab** · 05-03-2012, 10:50 AM

No, you have it the other way around.

Nothing to explain why RIM would be capable of making portrait mode from the beginning --- when they are 10 months behind the schedule of releasing the playbook in April 2011 and native email in February 2012.

If it was so easy to make a native email client --- they wouldn't have been 10 months late.

**Bakamushi** · 05-03-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by samab

No, you have it the other way around.

Nothing to explain why RIM would be capable of making portrait mode from the beginning --- when they are 10 months behind the schedule of releasing the playbook in April 2011 and native email in February 2012.

Mmmh maybe like many lone programmers on Appworld are able to provide portrait mode ? Like they could have hired just one person for just a few days ?

Originally Posted by samab

If it was so easy to make a native email client --- they wouldn't have been 10 months late.

QNX had several opensource mail clients when they bought it.

**cbvinh** · 05-03-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Bakamushi

QNX had several opensource mail clients when they bought it.

They're built with the Playbook's GUI API? If so, why don't you just download the source, it being opensource and all, and package it up for the rest of us?

**samab** · 05-03-2012, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bakamushi

Mmmh maybe like many lone programmers on Appworld are able to provide portrait mode ? Like they could have hired just one person for just a few days ?

QNX had several opensource mail clients when they bought it.

It has to be a useful portrait mode --- not just portrait mode for portrait mode sake. Most of these apps don't really work well in portrait mode --- UI not optimized, lots of white spaces. You might as well not have a portrait mode and concentrate on adding new features to your app.

Why would RIM use open source email clients that have unknown origins with unknown patent risks that can't be certified by governments?