[luqman24]

Im only running the browser with 4 tabs open and I opened to the poynt app and told me that the memory is low. I open the settings only to find I have 197MB left. Why is this happening? And as much as I'd hate to say this, its starting to remind me of my previous Bold9000 running OS5 which always had low memory. Btw im running .1710.

[leemiltz]

It's been said in reviews and on the forums, you are not the only one.
Basically the OS is using about 50% of the 1GB of RAM, possibly RIM can update the OS in a way it will use less or more efficient but that is just speculation.
For now it will be like this, browser is hefty on memory so every tab eats some of the available memory.

[xicimummy]

And also there is a memory leak problem. When I do a fresh restart, 500+ mb free memory is available, but after opening and closing some apps only 450mb is left

[dennie82]

This is what I'm afraid of, memory leaks. It's so famous with my previous 9000.

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[Technerd.McLeod]

I don't have any leaks. When I restart my PB, like xicimummy said, I have 500+ MB free memory. But for me, even after opening a couple apps, playing around in them for a bit, then closing them and reverting back to having no apps open, it goes back to 500+ MB.

[xicimummy]

I checked again with no apps running, and 460mb is left. McStoner, have you ever tried to open the browser, open some tabs and play some flashes?

[Technerd.McLeod]

I checked again with no apps running, and 460mb is left. McStoner, have you ever tried to open the browser, open some tabs and play some flashes?

Yes, I do that quite a bit. Including watching several youtube videos in a row. The lowest memory I've had, with no apps running was 486.4 which is right now. So I was close, almost every time I have no apps running, I have 500+ MB.

[xicimummy]

I wonder if it is caused by wifi and file sharing. That should be the only service running background . So I did a test on that.
Every time after restarting these sharings and restart setup to check free memory. There has some leaks around 1 Mb..
But I still dont get it why I only have 450mb free memory left.

[esc0bar336]

I currently have 12 apps open and all running at the same time. I have yet to run into a low memory message. I'm currently on .1710.

[forsakenwaste5]

you have to understand that the playbook have true multi tasking not like the ipad app switching

[shlammed]

its no different than any computer

just because the playbook can multitask doesnt mean threre are unlimited resources to do so

[luqman24]

I understand that, i did a crash test and the max of opened apps was 13 then you would get the low mem msg and wont be able to open any other new apps. But last night I got the message by having only 4 tabs open in the browser, did a restart and had 500+MB of RAM. No problems now but im yet to find out how that happen by closely monitoring the amount of available RAM.

[mickeyboat]

How do I find amount of memories being used?

[luqman24]

How do I find amount of memories being used?

Slide down the setting/tools > About tab > in the drop down select "Hardware" and you should be able to see it beside "Free Memory"

[JRSCCivic98]

Before it was battery pulls, now it's just restarts. When will RIM learn to either put a **** load of memory into a device (this will be their only saving grace for them because it's RIM) or learn how to build an efficient OS. I thought QNX was the end all save all of all their past problems. Looks like that's not the case. Seems to me they've just changed the core bottom layer of the OS and used QNX just for that and still kept their bs Virtual Machine environment architecture for everything else. If you're out of memory now, wait until you have to run the VM emulation to run those Android apps RIM was so adamant about the PB being able to run.

[Crackberrykills]

Before it was battery pulls, now it's just restarts. When will RIM learn to either put a **** load of memory into a device (this will be their only saving grace for them because it's RIM) or learn how to build an efficient OS. I thought QNX was the end all save all of all their past problems. Looks like that's not the case. Seems to me they've just changed the core bottom layer of the OS and used QNX just for that and still kept their bs Virtual Machine environment architecture for everything else. If you're out of memory now, wait until you have to run the VM emulation to run those Android apps RIM was so adamant about the PB being able to run.

The memory issue only happens if you open way too many applications. This is unlike the phones, well the old ones anyway, where the available memory would hit zero without anything really happening in the background. On my Pearl, as well as Bold, memory problems were always at the forefront. However, that changed once the 97 and 98 came out. With each PlayBook OS update, the memory low notification is less prevalent. I am not sure if QNX will be RIM's savior, but I am not ready to throw out the baby with the bath water quite yet. The addition of the Android App players and Blackberry App players to the mix is not my idea of fun. Hopefully, that move will not be a misstep. Meh, it is what it is.

[JustAnotherBeerbot]

These sorts of memory leaks should get fixed eventually. There are dozens of background processes on the system, and everything is still pretty fresh off the assembly line, software-wise.
Best thing you can do is take note of what you were doing when you ran low on memory and see if you can reproduce it after a restart. If so, should be easy stuff to track down. Not sure what the official bug-reporting procedures are, but this sort of information will help the developers out.

[mahen915]

Before it was battery pulls, now it's just restarts. When will RIM learn to either put a **** load of memory into a device (this will be their only saving grace for them because it's RIM) or learn how to build an efficient OS. I thought QNX was the end all save all of all their past problems. Looks like that's not the case. Seems to me they've just changed the core bottom layer of the OS and used QNX just for that and still kept their bs Virtual Machine environment architecture for everything else. If you're out of memory now, wait until you have to run the VM emulation to run those Android apps RIM was so adamant about the PB being able to run.

There is no BB Virtual Machine running ANYWHERE on the Playbook Platform. Just because QNX actually warns users about low memory doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others. Webkit is the biggest culprit of memory leaks and both iOS and Android experience this. Android doesn't warn you, but simply autocloses your most recent app. iOS has multi-tasking, not multiprocessing, so memory limitations aren't an issue here, as you are technically running one app at a time anyway with services running in the background to do simple things such as stream music, etc. 1GB of RAM is plenty; we are not sitting here using 1GB for runtime memory and applications. Simply adding RAM isn't going to solve anything. So, please know WTF you're talking about before mentioning things that are simply incorrect. You might want to pick up an Operating System book and learn how memory management works in a multi-processing environment.

[nikosg21]

I have NFS -- tetri - a video playing - music player open - my browser - paperplane -and my photo album open and no low memory so if u have low memory u must have over 12 apps open which is much better than what ios and android do ...so stfu or please make a valid point ..

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[gregorylkelly]

Before it was battery pulls, now it's just restarts. When will RIM learn to either put a **** load of memory into a device (this will be their only saving grace for them because it's RIM) or learn how to build an efficient OS. I thought QNX was the end all save all of all their past problems. Looks like that's not the case. Seems to me they've just changed the core bottom layer of the OS and used QNX just for that and still kept their bs Virtual Machine environment architecture for everything else. If you're out of memory now, wait until you have to run the VM emulation to run those Android apps RIM was so adamant about the PB being able to run.

Do you own a PlayBook? If not, it's time you shut the **** up about it. You are a moderator, shut up and moderate. All I ever see you do on these forums is troll and ramble about **** you don't know about. You think you know what you are talking about and people believe you because they see you are a moderator, but your are blowing smoke out your ***. I know for sure (based on PM's I've received) that I'm not the only one tired of your constant bull****. Shame on CrackBerry.com for giving you any sort of credibility.

/rant

And let me add, when the iPad came out, when you opened a 2nd app, the first app closed because of memory management (call it what you will, but the only reason iOS runs half baked multitasking is because it isn't optimized to run full multitasking from a hardware and software persepective). At least the PlayBook, at launch, can run more than 1 app at a time!

[gregorylkelly]

But how many applications is "too many"? I'm betting it varies based on the apps, but if you're going to advertise "great multitasking," you have to be prepared for people to not really pay much attention to how many apps they are running.

Based on some non scientific tests I've run, when the available memory gets below 50mbs it starts shutting down apps. I have seen 46mbs available though, so maybe it's a set number like 45 or something.

[Paladinleeds]

So let's say, while getting 72+ hours battery life, they brought out a new PB tomorrow with 500TB RAM, a stonking 750THz processor, and 9'000TB HDD space. To the techies out there, which out of those would help the PB's memory problem the most?

[gregorylkelly]

So let's say, while getting 72+ hours battery life, they brought out a new PB tomorrow with 500TB RAM, a stonking 750THz processor, and 9'000TB HDD space. To the techies out there, which out of those would help the PB's memory problem the most?

Well, memory management can be fixed via software. Is your question a trick question? Because endless memory wont help if you don't have a memory management system in place. Also, I'd love to see an OS that could support that much RAM

But to answer your question, better software is the best realistic solution....well I guess I didn't answer your question....

[tdawg00]

Do you own a PlayBook? If not, it's time you shut the **** up about it. You are a moderator, shut up and moderate. All I ever see you do on these forums is troll and ramble about **** you don't know about. You think you know what you are talking about and people believe you because they see you are a moderator, but your are blowing smoke out your ***. I know for sure (based on PM's I've received) that I'm not the only one tired of your constant bull****. Shame on CrackBerry.com for giving you any sort of credibility.

/rant

And let me add, when the iPad came out, when you opened a 2nd app, the first app closed because of memory management (call it what you will, but the only reason iOS runs half baked multitasking is because it isn't optimized to run full multitasking from a hardware and software persepective). At least the PlayBook, at launch, can run more than 1 app at a time!

Wow....Isnt he entitled to his opinion?

[mahen915]

Wow....Isnt he entitled to his opinion?

People are definitely entitled to their opinion, but when you try to pass your opinion off as fact (ie. people who *think* they know how operating systems and virtual machines work), then there is a blatant misconception that is being conveyed to people that should be corrected.