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    Default Just imagine when *the* update drops....

    Just imagine if RIM decides to release the Android Player, FIPS Secure Native BIS/BES E-Mail, AutoCorrect and all the other goodies we have been clamouring for in ONE big update... say... Tablet OS 2.0. And this happens with a massive onslaught of native-code Apps released on AppWorld...supplemented with many Android apps....

    What then? When we have everything possible under the sun...that no other tablet can even approach, what will be say? Will we finally admit that the PlayBook is the most AWESOME tablet in the universe and finally squash the trolls?

    I really, really think that something great is around the corner... I can feel it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt J View Post
    Just imagine if RIM decides to release the Android Player, FIPS Secure Native BIS/BES E-Mail, AutoCorrect and all the other goodies we have been clamouring for in ONE big update... say... Tablet OS 2.0. And this happens with a massive onslaught of native-code Apps released on AppWorld...supplemented with many Android apps....

    What then? When we have everything possible under the sun...that no other tablet can even approach, what will be say? Will we finally admit that the PlayBook is the most AWESOME tablet in the universe and finally squash the trolls?
    Then unfortunately you wake up
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    I cant feel it too.
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    I don't think Tablet OS 2.0 will be released before QNX phones come out. I think they will probably try to keep the two OSes similar. I truly hope that they don't keep the same UI for 2.0 though. I want some home pages, where I can put widgets , that is the main advantage I see Honeycomb having over Playbook. Anyways, sorry to rain on your parade
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01itr View Post
    Then unfortunately you wake up
    We would love it.

    Nothing in rim's recent OS update record indicates they have the desire or the capacity for releasing an OS update with that much innovation.

    Each major addition will be stand alone in an OS update unto itself, coupled with minor bug fixes and so forth.

    You can bet the farm on that.

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    I think I am going to side with the OP...something huge is on the way...the PB as it stands to this date, is still far from being complete. I'm a firm believer that it is about to amaze many, and take off like a bat out of H.E. Double Hockey Sticks
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    As much as I love the PB, all those things would only put it on par with other Tablets. Not way ahead. Granted the OS is excellent.

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    I hope people know that native email will be useless unless your company installs and sets up the PAS....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitor1 View Post
    I think I am going to side with the OP...something huge is on the way...the PB as it stands to this date, is still far from being complete. I'm a firm believer that it is about to amaze many, and take off like a bat out of H.E. Double Hockey Sticks
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    Yeai wish i could believe that. Really. I wished this device was already at the point we thought it was going to be when we bought it.

    You have to ask yourself... if rim was capable of rolling out huge, innovative, mind-blowing updates, why havent they yet? why have we been seeing baby steps instead of leaps and bounds?

    I dont see shift foreman and bosses walking into the coding rooms and saying "lets get to work developing the OS but... dont give them too much right now. Lets just squeeze out a little here or there. And shelve any huge improvements. We dont want to make apple or motorola look bad."

    I think they are either having a tougher time with qnx than they originally thought they would have, or there is no leadership in rim and thus no focus... too many competing priorities.

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    7/26 next update?
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    You know what.... I don't know why it is taking so long. Maybe there is really something behind the FIPS security think that is preventing native BIS/BES e-mail. Perhaps the security behind the implementation is so necessary to secure US and Canadian government contracts.

    Sure, the iPad has native POP/IMAP mail. This is a no-brainer. Do you honestly think that RIM can't release a crappy little POP/IMAP client? This is like Mercedes and BMW releasing a POS subcompact. No, they are waiting for the release a secure BIS/BES e-mail client that will allow the friggin' FBI, CIA, NSA, MI5, MI6 and CSIS the ability to deploy 1,000,000 PBs for it's field agents....

    The point is....there is more going on on the backend that will revolutionize tablet security. We will be amazed with what the PB can do when the time comes.

    Until then... the rest can go back to Angry Birds and fart apps. I'm waiting for the ultimate tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    Nothing will happen. The damage has already been done. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

    The Playbook will just continue to sit on store shelves collecting dust.
    LOL,

    Apple would have been dead in the 90's, Windows Phone would have just been tossed to the side if that was case...

    Even GM and Ford would be screwed...

    But Apple reinvented themselves, Windows Phone is gaining traction, and GM and Ford are making popular cars that are making individuals have a second look...

    A company gives a sour taste on the first impression but if the public's memory is short...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt J View Post
    You know what.... I don't know why it is taking so long. Maybe there is really something behind the FIPS security think that is preventing native BIS/BES e-mail. Perhaps the security behind the implementation is so necessary to secure US and Canadian government contracts.

    Sure, the iPad has native POP/IMAP mail. This is a no-brainer. Do you honestly think that RIM can't release a crappy little POP/IMAP client? This is like Mercedes and BMW releasing a POS subcompact. No, they are waiting for the release a secure BIS/BES e-mail client that will allow the friggin' FBI, CIA, NSA, MI5, MI6 and CSIS the ability to deploy 1,000,000 PBs for it's field agents....

    The point is....there is more going on on the backend that will revolutionize tablet security. We will be amazed with what the PB can do when the time comes.

    Until then... the rest can go back to Angry Birds and fart apps. I'm waiting for the ultimate tablet.
    But why would this affect development time of unrelated features? Autocorrect, 5 min max standby setting, android app player, fully functioning bridge, etc...

    you know, the long list of things we are waiting for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by menaknow View Post
    LOL,

    Apple would have been dead in the 90's, Windows Phone would have just been tossed to the side if that was case...

    Even GM and Ford would be screwed...

    But Apple reinvented themselves, Windows Phone is gaining traction, and GM and Ford are making popular cars that are making individuals have a second look...

    A company gives a sour taste on the first impression but if the public's memory is short...
    I'm not saying RIM can't reinvent themselves. I'm saying the Playbook is finished. I don't care what they do to improve it.

    RIMs best bet would be to save all the goodies for Playbook 2 and then try again, but they've left such a bad taste in so many people's mouths that it will be very difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb5zht View Post
    Yeai wish i could believe that. Really. I wished this device was already at the point we thought it was going to be when we bought it.

    You have to ask yourself... if rim was capable of rolling out huge, innovative, mind-blowing updates, why havent they yet? why have we been seeing baby steps instead of leaps and bounds?

    I dont see shift foreman and bosses walking into the coding rooms and saying "lets get to work developing the OS but... dont give them too much right now. Lets just squeeze out a little here or there. And shelve any huge improvements. We dont want to make apple or motorola look bad."

    I think they are either having a tougher time with qnx than they originally thought they would have, or there is no leadership in rim and thus no focus... too many competing priorities.

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    You have to remember how much testing is required for every little change to anything. Look what happened just a few days ago when something got missed in what many of you are calling an insignificant update. The magnitude of the changes we are talking about is many times that of what we've seen so far. All this stuff needs to be tested not only for how people should use it, but it also has to anticipate any goofy-a$$ thing that id1ots of ever-increasing abilities can come up with. Imagine if just one of those new features came out with a hiccup like the first of this week's bridge issues (which, by the way, did NOT bring the world to an end). You would be the first one here screaming how incompetent RIM is, and for the first time you'd actually be justified in doing so. I'd much prefer they take the time to get it absolutely right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb5zht View Post
    But why would this affect development time of unrelated features? Autocorrect, 5 min max standby setting, android app player, fully functioning bridge, etc...

    you know, the long list of things we are waiting for...

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    Who knows? Maybe even these features need to be secured. What if Autocorrect changes are stored in cache that could be accessed? Maybe the Android player poses a security hole? Bridge...same deal... Maybe it all has to be airtight. Maybe that's the only way to secure it?

    Has a BlackBerry phone ever been hacked? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt J View Post
    Has a BlackBerry phone ever been hacked? I don't think so.
    Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    Wrong.

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    Details please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt J View Post
    Details please.
    Just google it. Blackberries have been hacked several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsdaleHokie View Post
    Just google it. Blackberries have been hacked several times.
    No, the core of the OS and personal data has never been hacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt J View Post
    Details please.
    cnet : blackberry hacked

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb5zht View Post
    cnet : blackberry hacked

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    LOL! That's a blog...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt J View Post
    LOL! That's a blog...
    So is crackberry's home page. Does that render it invalid? Gee, millions of crackberry users will be so disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb5zht View Post
    So is crackberry's home page. Does that render it invalid? Gee, millions of crackberry users will be so disappointed.

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    OK, but to declare that the BlackBerry OS has been hacked should be a little more formal and peer-reviewed. Otherwise, it's just a rumour.
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