im+ $ 19.99 not $ 9.99, whatz up RIM what are you doing?

**D_March** · 10-31-2011, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Foreverup

Again Shape originally submitted $19.99. Which is the same as their premium app for the BB phones. Every time I read Shape stuff they are the ones that originally submit stuff wrong.

Very good suggestion to RIM to tweak app world submission and I'm sure Alec will take under advisement because he seems a million time better than the previous guy there. But if they wanted $9.99 originally submit as 9.99 or Change the price before the day your app is to be released. People posted Friday that app had passed approval change the price then instead of procrastinating.

PS: To Shape I happy you finally got you app through I know the long history of this and I hope it sells well. But I do believe my points are valid knowing the history and reading all your posts regarding this playbook app.

Exactly, if you're going to change the price of the app then do so the day prior to announcing it for sale. This is pretty cut and dry. It seems ridiculous to blame RIM for that.

**DangerMouseUK** · 10-31-2011, 12:49 PM

They set the $20 price when they initially submitted the application back in MAY.

Times have changed since May and they decided to lower the price after RIM took half a year to approve the app.

They changed the price down to $10, checked on all the sites to see the price had propogated and then opened it to purchasing, it is NOT their fault that RIM's backend servers don't bill people the amount that is listed on their own App World systems.

Please read their response before jumping in to defend RIM, it gets a bit boring otherwise.

**chi-town311** · 10-31-2011, 01:40 PM

Not sure how you can defend RIM on this. The App is listed at 9.99 and then charges you 19.99. Not sure how that is anyone's fault except the company that is running the store - RIM. Their damn system doesn't charge the price that is displayed in the system. Doesn't matter when he price was changed. If the two don't match there is a problem.

**kb5zht** · 10-31-2011, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by chi-town311

Not sure how you can defend RIM on this.

New around these parts, ain't ya?

Doesnt matter how they do it or why. Its almost a waste of time arguing with them; their first and only motive is to defend rim, period. No matter what. Evidence isnt important and stick those facts where the sun doesnt shine.... defend rim defend rim. Almost like sheep.

Look at one's defence and then another's... they often contradict one another.

RIM runs appworld and if there is something posted there it's their responsibility or domain.

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**D_March** · 10-31-2011, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by DangerMouseUK

They set the $20 price when they initially submitted the application back in MAY.

Times have changed since May and they decided to lower the price after RIM took half a year to approve the app.

They changed the price down to $10, checked on all the sites to see the price had propogated and then opened it to purchasing, it is NOT their fault that RIM's backend servers don't bill people the amount that is listed on their own App World systems.

Please read their response before jumping in to defend RIM, it gets a bit boring otherwise.

I honestly could care less either way. But it sounds to me like it takes a day for the back end to update and Shape or whoever failed to realize that. Maybe not. That is how I read the post.

**D_March** · 10-31-2011, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by kb5zht

New around these parts, ain't ya?

Doesnt matter how they do it or why. Its almost a waste of time arguing with them; their first and only motive is to defend rim, period. No matter what. Evidence isnt important and stick those facts where the sun doesnt shine.... defend rim defend rim. Almost like sheep.

Look at one's defence and then another's... they often contradict one another.

RIM runs appworld and if there is something posted there it's their responsibility or domain.

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If you want to debate a point or discuss it then I'm all for it. That being said the name calling and hyperbole is getting old. Labeling everyone who disagrees with any particular stance you have as an apologist or sheep is really not constructive and doesn't further the discussions. That is of course just my opinion.

**kb5zht** · 10-31-2011, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by D_March

If you want to debate a point or discuss it then I'm all for it. That being said the name calling and hyperbole is getting old. Labeling everyone who disagrees with any particular stance you have as an apologist or sheep is really not constructive and doesn't further the discussions. That is of course just my opinion.

I will respond to you in a private message so this doesn't flare up in the thread. You just attempted to really provoke a fight and i wont add to it or participate.

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**diegonei** · 10-31-2011, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Foreverup

I thought the devs set their own prices. If i'm right your title is wrong

Devs set price tags, not RIM.

People really should learn who to blame for stuff...

**chi-town311** · 10-31-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by diegonei

Devs set price tags, not RIM.

People really should learn who to blame for stuff...

Why are you guys defending RIM on this?? I just don't get it. I don't care who set what price at what time. If the damn thing says 9.99 and then it charges you 19.99 then that is a problem with Appworld. If it takes a day to update, then the stupid price should show 19.99. There should NEVER be a difference between the advertised price and the price it charges.

I am not saying that Shape did not mess up their pricing. They most likely did. Apparently the current version of the app sucks too, surprise, surprise. But when a price shows as one amount and then charges another, that is Appworld's issue.

One other thing - RIM needs to assure that each application is being sold at the price that is showing up to the consumer. They should have safeguards in place to prevent this error from happenning.

**Bravo-_-** · 10-31-2011, 05:12 PM

Lol You lamo's are trying to find some one to blame but your selves...reasons being that you went on app world and see IM+ for 9.99!you press purchase,then you sign into you account, then you see purchase price 17.38, tax price 2.61, total 19.99. But you still press buy now! why? Don't you check the price for things before you buy

Blame your selves,not rim,not the developers. Look into the mirror and say this with me.its my fault its my fault, not rim,that's it........you see..... that wasn't hard was it

Lol

**entimp** · 10-31-2011, 09:59 PM

It's so funny I'm almost crying. I wish every potential RIM customer could read threads like this and the app in question reviews.

**gregorylkelly** · 10-31-2011, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by urbanguy

So that's how long it takes to get an app approved??

For the price they charge for this app, I wish it didnt became available. It's insulting to charge this much for this app.

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**mc21** · 10-31-2011, 10:30 PM

RIM needs to update how the appworld works and Shape needs to actually develop a real app. Did I miss anything?

**Bravo-_-** · 11-01-2011, 05:26 AM

hey guys.... i've downloaded flash files games,apps e.c.t, thats about 7mb or more! have you seen the IM+for blackberry playbook! it's only 1mb in size.The web base version is better than this app, wouldn't even call it an app for 1 mb in size for 9.99 or 19.99 like some of you found out!

. it needs to at lease 8 to 9mb to be a propper app with every thing built in side of it.was this the look on your faces

whan they charge you 19.99 and not 9.99

**stubbornswiss** · 11-01-2011, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by kb5zht

.... defend rim defend rim. Almost like sheep.

Personally, I'd say "worse than sheep".

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**checkyoulater** · 11-01-2011, 06:34 AM

go beta, and load imo.im that's free and does skype chat as well....no video yet since all android apps have no camera access at this point yet

**pkcable** · 11-01-2011, 08:48 AM

Remember folks........

**chi-town311** · 11-01-2011, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bravo-_-

Lol You lamo's are trying to find some one to blame but your selves...reasons being that you went on app world and see IM+ for 9.99!you press purchase,then you sign into you account, then you see purchase price 17.38, tax price 2.61, total 19.99. But you still press buy now! why? Don't you check the price for things before you buy

Blame your selves,not rim,not the developers. Look into the mirror and say this with me.its my fault its my fault, not rim,that's it........you see..... that wasn't hard was it

Lol

Who are you calling a lamo? I did notice it. And I didn't buy it. But it still pisses me off. I really don't get how you can think this isn't RIM's fault. They have an error in their system that allows a price to show in one spot and then it charges you a different price.

How is this not their fault?

Seriously, you are pretty pathetic if you can't find the problem here. They have an inconsistency in their store. This can easily be fixed on their end. MATCH THE TWO PRICES!! It isn't that hard.

**kb5zht** · 11-01-2011, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by checkyoulater

go beta, and load imo.im that's free and does skype chat as well....no video yet since all android apps have no camera access at this point yet

does imo.im at least.allow voice chat?

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**Bla1ze** · 11-01-2011, 01:08 PM

Hey, remember when everyone was all pumped up and ready to kill RIM for having not yet released IM+ for the PlayBook? .... Yeah, good times.

**papped** · 11-01-2011, 01:12 PM

Remember when everyone was dying for a 3rd party email client? Then demanded a sideload version so that they could use it? Deja vu...

**anakin1979** · 11-01-2011, 01:43 PM

I have a suggestion. Seems most of the arguments are a result of the fact that it took this long for an IM client to come to the PB. Have you guys considered selling your PBs for an iPad or Galaxy Tab? Not only are all the IM apps free, you also get full Skype.

Trust me, Im not trolling. Its an actual suggestion.

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**Bravo-_-** · 11-01-2011, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by chi-town311

Who are you calling a lamo? I did notice it. And I didn't buy it. But it still pisses me off. I really don't get how you can think this isn't RIM's fault. They have an error in their system that allows a price to show in one spot and then it charges you a different price.

How is this not their fault?

Seriously, you are pretty pathetic if you can't find the problem here. They have an inconsistency in their store. This can easily be fixed on their end. MATCH THE TWO PRICES!! It isn't that hard.

If you see inconsistency in their store,why complain....Just dont buy the APP until it's fixed

remember this is rim we're talking about, these things happen. but you cant blame rim if people dont check before they buy

the problem is people like you always complaining about everything. why rim didn't do this,why rim didn't do that. Seriously who is pretty pathetic now!!you didn't buy the app so why complain.

**dannykavs** · 11-01-2011, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bla1ze

Hey, remember when everyone was all pumped up and ready to kill RIM for having not yet released IM+ for the PlayBook? .... Yeah, good times.

Forgive me if I haven't been following along since the beginning of this IM+ fiasco, but is this implying that the app, in its present form, is still remarkably underwhelming in performance?

**Blacklac** · 11-01-2011, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by kb5zht

does imo.im at least.allow voice chat?

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There web app even does video chat, I think. Although I know that probably doesn't help communicate with other Mobile platforms. I don't think too many other allow the mic and camera through the browser like the Playbook, but I could be wrong. Haven't had a need to try a voice only chat, so I can't help there. I just know the IMO.im web App works well in the PB browser. Enough that I would never consider paying for IM Apps.

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