- CrackBerry Genius
12-07-12, 05:29 PM #27
- 2,818 Posts
Re: How much longer will the BB Playbook last?
It has lasted very long for a tablet that doesn't start with an 'i' or end in 'pad'. It came out the same time as iPad2 as we all know. Apple already has new versions, specifically 'the new' and 'the mini' (such gimicky names, should be a fricken iPad3), which are just the same thing with better specs. Well, except the mini, it is an iPad2. RIM is banking on QNX and they will have to show it is a viable alternative to iOS before marketing a new 'playbook'. Once they build a larger user base for BB10, they will bring out new devices to replace the playbook. This is inevitable. I do hope they continue support for the first generation playbooks for a reasonable time. At least another couple of years. But I know, to be successful, RIM has to keep evolving its devices and keeping the playbook updated is RIMs choice. Playbook will last as long as RIM allows it to. And so far so good cuz alls I keeps hearin is I'm getting me some BB10 action next year. :thumbup:
- CrackBerry Genius
12-07-12, 05:42 PM #28
- 2,264 Posts
I'm not aware of any electronic items being warranted for moisture damage.
It is totally unreasonable of you to use this experience of yours as a pretext for suspecting RIM is backing away from the PB. I call B S.
- 12-07-12, 06:23 PM #29
Are you sure this wasn't the New York Times swami? Reporters are supposed to report. Swamis are supposed to know the future. Or is that NYT's palm reader or horoscope teller? Surely, it can't be a reporter as last time I looked, they didn't have any special soothsaying powers. Other than their arrogance that is.
- CrackBerry Newbie
12-07-12, 06:53 PM #30
- 5 Posts
FYI the only problem was a mis-alignment of the USB so that I could not connect the charger anymore. Other than that it worked quite well. there is no way there was moisture damage. I don't think I am being unreasonable, especially since they didn't respond to any of my emails and guaranteed repair within 5 days. It was 2 weeks and I didn't hear a word from them until I called. I think they are dishing out BS, especially since it was only 6 months old.
Why is a Canadian company having US repair their products anyway. I bought Blackberry because it was Canadian
- CrackBerry Abuser
12-07-12, 08:52 PM #32
- 104 Posts
- CrackBerry Abuser
12-07-12, 09:27 PM #33
- 197 Posts
He is probably right that RIM are likely giving up on the current Playbook. Will they come out with a cheaper to make version? Maybe? Will they give up on support and close down app world? Perhaps in time. But in meantime, everything we have will continue to work as it does now with or without RIM's support. Android aps will be available if anyone needs more apps ?
I have a Compaq iPaq 3670 sitting on it's charger stand in front of me. It dates back to late 90s I think. It is a quality built product like the PB. It still works just fine. With the accessories, it has gps, wifi, email, ereader,gps, plays tunes, records, etc. Several great apps for auto and marine navigation, music player etc. It was called a PDA, but does everything tablets do today except with much less battery life. I would probably have trouble giving it away. It is a dinosaur, like the PB will eventually be. Some like me will keep these old devices running, but others will discard them and user support will diminish until at some point you feel totally abandoned! But then you will still have your beloved PB
My hope is that RIM stays with tablets, updates the OS for us existing users and issues a new cheaper to build replacement that will keep them in the tablet market. But to be honest, they may be better to concentrate on what they do best if they want to survive.
- 12-07-12, 09:56 PM #34
- 12-08-12, 09:38 AM #39
The success of BB10 will be a big determinant on PlayBook's life with regards to OS support... If BB10 becomes successful, we might be expecting continues OS support until new model or version comes out... likewise, if BB10 fails, RIM might totally abandoned the PlayBook... in business point-of-view, there is no reasonable reason to continue...
But regardless of continue or discontinue OS support, the PlayBook's physical lifespan will be totally depends on individual owner i.e. how well you are taking care your PlayBook...
- 12-08-12, 10:01 AM #40
Re: How much longer will the BB Playbook last?
- First generation is around two years old.
- Second generation came out a couple months ago with a faster processor, wireless data, and NFC.
- Road map shows another PlayBook coming in 2013, probably with BB10 out of the gate.
I think the PlayBook will be around for a while.
- 12-08-12, 10:15 AM #41
- 12-08-12, 10:21 AM #42
- 12-08-12, 10:32 AM #43
A load of playbook owners ******** about it being written off wont hurt RIM much. In fact the markets would probably react positively to "ailing phone maker drops failed tablet division to concentrate on core smartphone business".
When/if RIM drops the playbook it will hardly get a mention.
Like I have said many times before, I'm a HP/Palm Pre2 owner so I know all about being in the position of owning a nice but not very popular bit of kit and being dumped.
Happy to be proven wrong however. I still think there is a strong possibility of disappointment though.
- 12-08-12, 12:28 PM #44
What's next? An article that says,
"RIM stock plunges on news that PlayBook discontinued!!!!!"
RIM stock plunged a staggering 0.0005% today as the already near-bankrupt, debt-ridden company with only 2 million active users was hit with more bad news. An unnamed analyst told this reporter that was was chatting with the doorman of the men's room in a downtown McDonalds and heard that the doorman heard from someone who heard from someone that the PlayBook is going to get discontinued because RIM needs to either pay for storage or pay the electricity bill in their one remaining small office."
- 12-08-12, 12:30 PM #45
It's silly, silly, silly.
Why couldn't they reduce back to the size they were in - say - 2006 - and service a specific segment, like they did in 2006? It's not "all or nothing" people.
- 12-08-12, 12:37 PM #46
- CrackBerry User
12-08-12, 01:12 PM #47
- 94 Posts
I then filled out a feedback form complaining that they should have followed direction better and if it was an "APPLE" product I could have walked into an apple store and had it replaced on the spot. I received a call and after a brief chat with the lady on the other end I was informed that they should have issued my mother a new 4g playbook for the unsatisfactory customer service and that one should arrive before the new year and she could keep the one they sent her.
She ended up with one new og pb that was manufactured in October, over $630.00 on a cheque from visa reimbursing her for the original purchase in April/May 2011 and a new 4g pb will be shipped to her this month. They went above and beyond for this customer. Try changing the way you speak to people and you'll likely end up with a better response next time.
- 12-08-12, 01:17 PM #48
Fortunately, with that bigger picture in mind, one also realizes that it's not necessary for the tablets to do well, on their own, financially, any time real soon. RIM can carry on with them as a distant second to the phones for probably several years before it's going to matter that they're not highly profitable. Even then, it may still be an excellent strategy to keep supporting and selling the tablets, even if they have negligible margin and no profit, if it adequately supports the overall mobile computing strategy, as it clearly does.
Talk of how the PlayBook should be killed or is a failure merely because it is not (supposedly) profitable on its own comes, it seems to me, from pretty narrow thinking.
12-08-12, 03:23 PM #49
- 9 Posts
BB10 on the phone in his pocket M2Med to the cars CPU: "Of course master. Data coming up on the HUD now."
P:"Hmm. Billy, take over and park while I look this over"
B:"Of course master".
P:"Oh, this doesn't look good. Billy, bump up Mr. Grande's Jantoven dose 15%, but switch to generic warfarin, this guy is gonna be broke before the bank bumps his credit card limit on Thursday.”
B (parking car and telling Mr. Grande's IV bot to dump the warfarin into his vein): "Of course master.”
P: “And I like early Sinatra. Remember for the ride home”
B: “Sorry master. You sound stressed. Shall I book Emmanuelle for after work?”
P: “I love you Billy.”
And jet packs for all. I love a good story as much as anyone. BB10 as the nexus of your life, no, the nexus of society. Storytime with Thor is especially amusing. Walk into office, drop phone in cradle, all productivity software runs off the phone. Hospitals humming under all that chewy QNX goodness etc etc.
Problem is that the odds are now in 70% favour of BB10, and the consequently the company that made it, failing. Nokia is on the ropes too. Here's what they are doing:
"The sale of its corporate headquarters will pump a bit of cash back into its accounts, but it's best seen as part of a larger strategy; like a lizard shedding its tail to escape a predator, Nokia is hacking off as much of itself as possible so that it can focus on its core business of making money by selling handsets.” (Arstechnica quote)
Hopefully RIM's CEO will be able to make the hard decisions to maximize the chances that the company will actually survive. No RIM, no RIM tablet ever.
PS: You say, "because it is not (supposedly) profitable on its own"???
You seem like a smart fellow. Why do you make statements qualifying or denying the abject financial failure of the PlayBook? It was over a billion in the red *a year ago* according to reports at that time. I'm pretty sure the $100 *retail* PlayBooks aren't helping RIM's bottom line this year either. You know what they say, a billion here, a billion there and pretty soon you are talking about some real money.
- 12-08-12, 05:34 PM #50
If you have to get that share price up, sometimes you have to ditch the ugly stepchild to please the markets and the stockholders.
The playbook is one ugly buck-toothed ginger haired monster as far as the markets are concerned. If it ain't Apple or Android they just aren't interested.
I could see BB10 being marginally successful (as in selling as good as or slightly better than Winmo8) and the share price raising a fraction, whereby they dump playbook on a good news day. Maybe stating a return to tablets in 2015.......
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