Hot! The trial version OS2.0.1 and BlackBerry PlayBook 3G - 4G appeared

**jafobabe** · 04-10-2012, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by mphillips828

The features that they say will be added to Facebook in os 2.1 are already there. So maybe they meant Facebook version 2.1

It is??? Well Bummer..

I don't use FB so I didn't know.

**Rangrfan** · 04-10-2012, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by mphillips828

The features that they say will be added to Facebook in os 2.1 are already there. So maybe they meant Facebook version 2.1

Facebook is already passed 2.1 its in 2.2.1.7 so your theory is wrong

**rotorwrench** · 04-10-2012, 11:48 PM

Again, not possible, no way. A couple of members who are always right, we'll, almost always ( they did miss on saying there would never be a 2.0 update and no mini keyboard from RIM) have repeatedly been posting that the last PB was made in Oct/Nov and we're done, no more to be produced, RIM was through with the PB. So give it up, these guys know!

**chaddeus** · 04-10-2012, 11:58 PM

Can someone just leaked it and find a way to install it offline? If its some security issue, then why is it possible for the BB phones to install leaked OS offline??

So someone out there, please do a good deed and leaked it.

- Charles

**BB_Bmore** · 04-10-2012, 11:59 PM

Facebook app on the Playbook is already at version 2.2.1.7. I guess all we know is 2.0.1 is coming or 2.1.

A 2.1 with maybe a must have app or two would help to relieve the anger of the side loading faithful presuming its out with this update.

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**pacoman03** · 04-10-2012, 11:59 PM

I think that's a typo, not a manual update. The OS 2.0 manual that I downloaded after 2.0 came out and which has been on my computer since the end of February, says the same thing.

**Luckyman6886** · 04-11-2012, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by diegonei

I'm asking you.

Yeah. This is good question

**BB_Bmore** · 04-11-2012, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by pacoman03

I think that's a typo, not a manual update. The OS 2.0 manual that I downloaded after 2.0 came out and which has been on my computer since the end of February, says the same thing.

Well that just sux :/ back to waiting.

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**rotorwrench** · 04-11-2012, 12:06 AM

Twitter is flooded with tweets on new PB release with links. I haven't checked the articles yet though.

**kennyliu** · 04-11-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by diegonei

I'm asking you.

OK, let's put it this way. There are probably a few thousand people who believe the PB was a success and the rest of the world (perhaps including even folks at RIM) who think the PB has so far been an unsuccessful product.

But I guess there is no point in arguing here.

F2 · 04-11-2012, 12:33 AM

Hmmm. Let's see. $199 for the 16gig, with carrier discount for signing a 2 year contract - they pay you to buy it!

Just semi-kidding.

**greatwiseone** · 04-11-2012, 12:34 AM

Well, there are some people who wants 3G or 4G PlayBooks (enterprise most likely). RIM has probably made very few of these...

PlayBook really hasn't been a successful product for RIM. But it's not as much of an epic fail as the media portrays. Everyone's having a tough time against Apple in the tablet market at the moment (Samsung, Asus, Moto, all included).

However, imagine RIM not having PlayBook and developers haven't seen any part of the QNX based OS before BB10 launches later this year. I bet RIM's share price would be sub $5. RIM had to rush something out, but at least they got one iteration of the product out. You should check Alec's blog post on the PlayBook launch BEFORE he started at RIM. Very few products launch perfectly, and by sacrificing PlayBook, hopefully RIM will have a pretty good BB10 by launch.

**samab** · 04-11-2012, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rangrfan

Facebook is already passed 2.1 its in 2.2.1.7 so your theory is wrong

Actually the theory was correct.

Facebook v2.1 app for Playbook (which came out in Dec 2011) was the original version that came out with support for Facebook groups --- precisely what the manual said.

**samab** · 04-11-2012, 01:20 AM

Bluetooth.org has a 4G Playbook listing --- with OS 2.0.1.132 and radio code 2.0.1.133.

https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid=18746

**Luckyman6886** · 04-11-2012, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by samab

Bluetooth.org has a 4G Playbook listing --- with OS 2.0.1.132 and radio code 2.0.1.133.

https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid=18746

Yeah. have more good news

**Toodeurep** · 04-11-2012, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by kennyliu

...

But I guess there is no point in arguing here.

There is no point in arguing at all anywhere. Enjoy what you have and allow others to do the same.

**sliders7** · 04-11-2012, 06:07 AM

Good news indeed! but no matter how good the news is or how good all the hardware rim provides.
RIM still lack of application for playbook, bb app world is nothing compare to android market.

1 simple example: there is no official twitter or skype for playbook.
.apk to .bar not always working as well.

rim should working on the quality apps first.. then follow up by new devices.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9860

**kbz1960** · 04-11-2012, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by kennyliu

OK, let's put it this way. There are probably a few thousand people who believe the PB was a success and the rest of the world (perhaps including even folks at RIM) who think the PB has so far been an unsuccessful product.

But I guess there is no point in arguing here.

Maybe it is unsuccessful in sales but I bet it has been quite successful for R&D to get them where they need to go.

**diegonei** · 04-11-2012, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by kennyliu

OK, let's put it this way. There are probably a few thousand people who believe the PB was a success and the rest of the world (perhaps including even folks at RIM) who think the PB has so far been an unsuccessful product.

You still didn't define how it was a disaster.

OK, let's put it this way. A product does not necesarily need to be profitable to be a success if it serves more than one purpose. The PlayBook is getting good attetion to RIM, that they can put out a good product, with a good software, and - here is the big part - where devs can come and code with ease and make cash.

Apps have for a long time been the Achilles Heels of the BlackBerry platform. The PlayBook is bridging that gap. So yes, it is far from a disaster.

We may not have some of the top tier ones yet, like Skype, MSN Messenger, SugarSync, Kindle and Amazon Prime (see how I don't list NetFlix here). But they will eventually come, once the ecosystem is better positioned and BB10 devices settle (settle, I don't expect them to become #1 market share, but they will have enough ofit to bring those apps over).

Originally Posted by kennyliu

But I guess there is no point in arguing here.

Why bring it up then?

**ayekon** · 04-11-2012, 09:38 AM

Awwwwwwwwww

I don't see Sprint on there

**lnichols** · 04-11-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by ayekon

Awwwwwwwwww

I don't see Sprint on there

Probably because they don't have the LTE network ready, and the Playbook will be either HSPA+ or LTE, no CDMA-EVDO. Sprint had them kill off the WiMax one over the summer when they decided to convert to LTE. As soon as Sprint has an LTE network you'll probably see a Playbook released by them.

**kennyliu** · 04-11-2012, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by diegonei

Why bring it up then?

Because you insisted

The key words in my comment are "so far". We really don't know if it will ever be successful. That's not a given fact. What makes you think that BB10 won't be the next MS Kin or WP7? It may it may not, right?

The FACT is that SO FAR the PB has been a disaster. They projected to sell 2.4 million Playbooks in the first quarter alone, whereas they sold half of that over four quarters and that's only thanks to super heavy discounts and taking a half a billion write off on the inventory.

As I said there are quite a few people who want to believe the PB is a success and there is the rest of the world that puts the Playbook in almost every top list of tech flops of 2011.

Sorry, whatever you believe, facts are facts. All your expectations and desires are not facts, they are just that - expectations and desires.

But again, MAYBE some day in the future, RIM will say "OK, we did took the hit, but the PB has served its purpose". But that's WHEN and IF.

**narci** · 04-11-2012, 11:33 AM

I can probably guess that a majority of consumers won't be getting a 3G/4G/LTE Playbook and getting a separate data plan to go along with it.

Where I can see alot of the sales happening is in the corporate/government world.

BTW, will the PB be going through NOC?

**samab** · 04-11-2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by kennyliu

Because you insisted

The key words in my comment are "so far". We really don't know if it will ever be successful. That's not a given fact. What makes you think that BB10 won't be the next MS Kin or WP7? It may it may not, right?

The FACT is that SO FAR the PB has been a disaster. They projected to sell 2.4 million Playbooks in the first quarter alone, whereas they sold half of that over four quarters and that's only thanks to super heavy discounts and taking a half a billion write off on the inventory.

As I said there are quite a few people who want to believe the PB is a success and there is the rest of the world that puts the Playbook in almost every top list of tech flops of 2011.

Sorry, whatever you believe, facts are facts. All your expectations and desires are not facts, they are just that - expectations and desires.

But again, MAYBE some day in the future, RIM will say "OK, we did get the hit, but the PB has served its purpose". But that's WHEN and IF.

Who projected what? Your whole argument is based on flawed numbers.

It was idiotic Wall Street analysts that projected the original Playbook sales forecast --- and they were based on equally idiotic flawed ipad forecast. Then later in the year, the ipad sales "tanked" --- Apple announced their quarterly ipad sales figure that was a couple million less than Wall Street consensus. So naturally that original Playbook sales forecast was invalid from the start --- and had to be dial down because the ipad sales figures tanked.

ALL non-ipad tablets have been sales duds. You just don't hear other disasters because these other companies are not listed in the US and aren't subjected to SEC filings. You have Lenovo outright saying that Samsung only sold 20000 tablets, not 2 million units. Without the Hasbro lawsuit, you would have never found out that there were only 2000 pre-orders for the Transformer Prime and that only 80000 were shipped to retailers.

**kennyliu** · 04-11-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by samab

Who projected what? Your whole argument is based on flawed numbers.

It was idiotic Wall Street analysts that projected the original Playbook sales forecast --- and they were based on equally idiotic flawed ipad forecast. Then later in the year, the ipad sales "tanked" --- Apple announced their quarterly ipad sales figure that was a couple million less than Wall Street consensus. So naturally that original Playbook sales forecast was invalid from the start --- and had to be dial down because the ipad sales figures tanked.

ALL non-ipad tablets have been sales duds. You just don't hear other disasters because these other companies are not listed in the US and aren't subjected to SEC filings. You have Lenovo outright saying that Samsung only sold 20000 tablets, not 2 million units. Without the Hasbro lawsuit, you would have never found out that there were only 2000 pre-orders for the Transformer Prime and that only 80000 were shipped to retailers.

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Btw, are the filresale prices and the half a billion dollar write-off also Wall Street idiots' estimates?