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02-12-2012, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mark37724 Lots of great points, it really doesn't matter if os 2 comes out and it earth shattering, these so-called tech writer's are not going to retract any of their negative reviews and they really carry alot of weight. | You're posting in a topic where a tech writer was wrong and retracted his inaccurate statement to further comment that tech writers are not going to retract any of their negative reviews.
This is not an example of negative press killing the Playbook this is an example of poor journalism.
For the most part, I found the Playbooks reviews since its inception to be accurate and discussed issues that were important to me. Later with the firesale and the anticipated release of OS 2.0, a lot of the issues I had with Playbook are being addressed and I bought one.
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02-12-2012, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by swyost I am really beginning to think that many Playbook users suffer from some form of iPad envy. Yes, I do mean that in the equivalent sense of a different sort of male envy. This is the only place that I find Apple is brought up again and again and again. As far as Apple never getting negative press, when is the last time you heard a positive thing about Apple TV or about Apple's relationship with Foxconn? For that matter, they hardly got a free pass from the press over the iPhone signal drop out issues, or either the screen quality or recent battery issues. RIM gets occasional unjustified bad press but so do other companies. The difference at the moment is that RIM is (pretty much) dominated by bad press that is mostly of its own creation. RIM released the half finished Playbook, marketed to business, but without a native app for the thing upon it built its reputation (email). On that front, Bridge simply does not cover that up because they did not market the Playbook as a BB extension but as mass market professional grade tablet. They are also a year late on promised updates and have a phone line that simply looks dated in comparison to the competition.
For a long time RIM/BB was the golden child that could do no wrong and its products were the status items to have. The company is no longer on that pedestal and going to get trashed in the media, as every other company does, when they make mistakes or fail to deliver on a product. If RIM made fewer mistakes, and looked less generally inept, they wouldn't garner as much of the bad press. Yes, bad press hurts products and hurts companies but the cycle usually starts with bad products or bad decisions. BTW, while the Playbook is certainly a nice piece of hardware, from a marketing perspective it could hardly count as a good product when launched given the botched marketing campaign and lack of industry standard (and expected) features. Products seldom get a second chance and the Playbook is no exception.... | I must live in an alternat universe. RIM did promote the pb as an extention for your phone+. They also promoted bridge as a security feature for enterprise.
But yes the "statements/advertising" was full of crap until it matures into those claims.
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02-12-2012, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by swyost I am really beginning to think that many Playbook users suffer from some form of iPad envy. Yes, I do mean that in the equivalent sense of a different sort of male envy. | Bwahahahaha...... yet the apple fanboi's can't seem to stay off the PB forums  I think you have that a little backwards my friend
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02-12-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by squ1nts let the press be the press... just makes us stronger and strive to further excellence. The playbook will shine at the end of this month. keep ur heads up  | I agree. We can't change the opinion of the press. We can change the opinion of those around us. Since I bought mine 2 months ago, 3 of my friends liked it so much they bought one and 2 more are looking to buy one. These were all people who were going to buy iPads or Kindles. To bad I don't get commission.
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02-12-2012, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NakedPaulToast For the most part, I found the Playbooks reviews since its inception to be accurate and discussed issues that were important to me. Later with the firesale and the anticipated release of OS 2.0, a lot of the issues I had with Playbook are being addressed and I bought one. | Ditto
Plus - I have only been on Crackberry for a couple of weeks and I have seen this article being discussed before.
CNET hardly ever like the tech I like, so it's no great shakes, and one usually learns a lot more from the user comments!!
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02-12-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NakedPaulToast You're posting in a topic where a tech writer was wrong and retracted his inaccurate statement to further comment that tech writers are not going to retract any of their negative reviews.
This is not an example of negative press killing the Playbook this is an example of poor journalism... | Absolutely. As much as I love the PB as a device and RIM as a company, ignoring the truth doesn't help.
By and large, the coverage of the PB has been fair. I will say a couple of posts on BGR have been disturbingly vague, and opinionated to the point where they were more editorial than actual reporting (the item where they claim Lazaridus "lied" about LTE being the reason for delaying BB10 phones comes to mind here; there was no way to substantiate that one way or the other--total hit piece).
The flip side of that is, that the OS 2.0 demos at CES last month garnered some very good publicity. Gizmodo (a site that has been merciless toward RIM in general and the PB in particular) called OS 2 their "biggest surprise" of the show.
I think RIM's revival strategy for the Playbook has been to let it drift as a brand. Very little actual marketing, just a fire-sale price to get it into as many hands as possible to make the platform more attractive to developers. Then release 2.0 and relaunch on the strength of good reviews. And I can't see any reason why they won't get them.
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02-12-2012, 01:38 PM
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The Playbook has some advantages over other tablets bridge included, and is no lesser than anyone.... don't understsnd all the fuss on this excellent product.
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02-12-2012, 01:40 PM
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I think it is small minded to think bad press doesn't affect current Playbook owners. If allevery ever reads is how bad the Playbook is, it won't be long before RIM abandons it, and with that will go support for existing users. We ALL have a lot riding on it's success
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02-12-2012, 03:20 PM
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Attack Of The Show on G4 had a pretty positive review last year, except for the lack of native email app BlackBerry PlayBook Tablet Review - YouTube | 
02-12-2012, 03:24 PM
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When you have consumers, you have to assume that the average consumer is a complete . The Playbook must be pushed down our throats. We know it's cool because we've tried one, but Apple has marketed the iPhone/iPad towards ignorant consumers (not being negative). They also made the iPad pretty much dummy-proof, so if you don't know much, you can still figure it out.
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02-12-2012, 04:48 PM
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Welcome to Bizarro World!
For some reason, only here, the PlayBook is the greatest tablet to hit the streets. I am not going to rehash all the obvious problems that are still apparent after almost a year, but it'd be nice to see an objective opinion from people here instead of blindly accepting a poor product. The anthem of most of the PlayBook forum posters has been "Just you wait and see!". If waiting and seeing was a few months or even half a year at the most, it might have been considered acceptable. Nope. We are talking a year. When RIM finally provides some basic functionality in their device, the iPad 3 will be released and this joke of a device will be an afterthought.
I continue to overwhelmingly prefer the BlackBerry smartphones to anything else on the market, but I would never give a little bit of credit to RIM for the disaster that is the PlayBook.
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02-12-2012, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shake Welcome to Bizarro World!
For some reason, only here, the PlayBook is the greatest tablet to hit the streets. I am not going to rehash all the obvious problems that are still apparent after almost a year, but it'd be nice to see an objective opinion from people here instead of blindly accepting a poor product. The anthem of most of the PlayBook forum posters has been "Just you wait and see!". If waiting and seeing was a few months or even half a year at the most, it might have been considered acceptable. Nope. We are talking a year. When RIM finally provides some basic functionality in their device, the iPad 3 will be released and this joke of a device will be an afterthought.
I continue to overwhelmingly prefer the BlackBerry smartphones to anything else on the market, but I would never give a little bit of credit to RIM for the disaster that is the PlayBook. | You have voiced your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but so am I, right now, without OS2, Playbook does everything I need, and does it far better than anything I have tried before. Sure RIM made mistakes, it doesn't appear they gave much thought to attracting non BB customers when initially launched. I wasn't around for the original teething issues. I'm sure that was frustrating But it is my opinion, and many others that this is a fantastic product. Not yet perfect but working towards that. The lack of sales may be a disaster, but the product is not.
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02-12-2012, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Shake Welcome to Bizarro World!
For some reason, only here, the PlayBook is the greatest tablet to hit the streets. I am not going to rehash all the obvious problems that are still apparent after almost a year, but it'd be nice to see an objective opinion from people here instead of blindly accepting a poor product. The anthem of most of the PlayBook forum posters has been "Just you wait and see!". If waiting and seeing was a few months or even half a year at the most, it might have been considered acceptable. Nope. We are talking a year. When RIM finally provides some basic functionality in their device, the iPad 3 will be released and this joke of a device will be an afterthought.
I continue to overwhelmingly prefer the BlackBerry smartphones to anything else on the market, but I would never give a little bit of credit to RIM for the disaster that is the PlayBook. | Look I'm no fanboy either. I will criticize RIM any day of the week. But to call the Playbook a quote "disaster" is pure insanity. It's RIMs fault for the lack of apps that make a tablet so great. If it had every single app that Android had and or Apple have, we would all be saying the PB is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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02-12-2012, 06:50 PM
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LOL Cnet. Haven't been to that junk site in years.
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The question is: does RIM consider it a disaster?
You (a consumer) may not; you paid for it. I suspect RIM may view it differently.
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