[BigAl_BB9900]

This time RIM must deliver

The BB10 stuff from Orlando looked fantastic, yet the share price is still dropping like a stone

Unfortunately for RIM, they have lost the goodwill of the markets - after previous marketing hype having set wonderful expectations (think pre-launch of PlayBook) which were not followed by quality delivery

Hopefully this time, the expectations will be exceeded, instead of under-delivered

I have my fingers crossed.....

[ubermanx]

After using a Blackberry for many many years I tried an iPhone for two weeks at work, tried a Samsung Galaxy Captivate and recently got a Bold 9900.

My Gawd why did I bother with the other phones? The real keyboard and integrated Inbox are essential for me.

On the Android phone I kept clicking on the Mail, Gmail, Contacts, Messaging, Facebook, Twitter and eBay icons constantly whereas the Bold I go to the Inbox and everything is there. Not to mention the Activesync barely synced while BES is darn near bulletproof. I had more missed emails and texts on the iPhone than I did during the " Great Blackberry Outage".

So I have concerns about the BB10 examples without real keyboards and the Playbook's reliance on Activesync. Give me a Bold 9900-ish device with speed and power to run BB10 (and a better camera) and I am in. Leave me with a mini Playbook and I won't be interested.

[alnamvet68]

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Has a point; I really miss that keyboard, and do hope BBX comes with one.

[varunsain]

So I have concerns about the BB10 examples without real keyboards and the Playbook's reliance on Activesync. Give me a Bold 9900-ish device with speed and power to run BB10 (and a better camera) and I am in. Leave me with a mini Playbook and I won't be interested.

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Has a point; I really miss that keyboard, and do hope BBX comes with one.

It is confirmed by RIM that BB10 will be available on All-touch and Pyshical Keypad devices. The e-mail service will also differ than the one currently used on PB, since it's going to be an always-on type messages and RIM is constantly emphasizing on 'back-to-basics' that worked for them all these years. Ofcourse, by basic they mean the concept but execution and application will be top-notch.

[BackDaws]

i cant vote on that because bb10 isnt finished and remember all the great stuff that they showed on the playbook before it came out ? well we still havent got them so ill wait until its out to pass judgment.

i want Blackberry to blow me away as Android phones (ICS) and Iphone on OS5 just arent cutting it anymore.

OS4 and Gingerbread were lighter and more user friendly, ICS and OS5 are both too clunky and are full of bloatware.

[spencerdl]

YES, I am "convinced", although I think it will be a couple of months after release that the BB10 devices will have most of the bugs out, but in the end I think it's going to be a very NICE device. I love my BlackBerry keypad and since there is no definite release date for BB10 with or without a keypad I decided to buy a Sprint Bold 9930 from BestBuy for $ 99, I figured I couldn't go wrong with that price . When/if the BB10 device with a keypad is released I will get a little more excited until then I'm going to enjoy my 9930/PlayBook combo

[BBplaybookJS]

as a user, follower and supporter since 2000 i was never unconvinced in the first place... yeah love is blind..

Exactly what I would have posted except for the blind part. Email, keyboard, network, security, no one can compete

[eds817]

I'm doing my very best to keep my 9900 in pristine condition so that I can sell it as soon as the BB10 with a keyboard comes out.

[varunsain]

I'm doing my very best to keep my 9900 in pristine condition so that I can sell it as soon as the BB10 with a keyboard comes out.

Well I tried that with my 9810 but I have copper edges now! So it's gonna be one of those collectible 9810 since Im really gonna miss it!

Thx everyone for voting.. The 'Thank' button just keep disappearing from here.. so I can't individually thank posts..

[OriginalLucy]

I am committed to moving to the BB10 when it comes out. I just sold a Bold 9000 and a Curve 8520 to get a used Bold 9780 until the BB10 arrives. I am leaving my "upgrade" opportunity open until that day. I don't particularly "live" on my smartphone all day like most of the population. I turn it off at night and during social events, and don't feel the anxiety of not being connected. BUT, I rely on my phone to be a phone first, canlendar and contact manager that will sync with my other devices to keep my schedule in order, and also to play nice with my playbook. all the rest is gravy. So, unless I win a 9900 from the Bold a Day contest, the 9780 and I wait to meet the BB10.

[varunsain]

That seems reasonable OriginalLucy.. Thanks for the response..

[jafobabe]

Op, your thanks button will come back within 24hrs... happens to me all the time..

[varunsain]

And why does this happen?

[tjseaman]

I can't wait...the main reason why I haven't upgraded my 9700 to a 9900 is because of BB10!

[SK122387]

Though we only saw a few features of BB10, I am 100% convinced that BB10 is the next big thing. It looks absolutely NOTHING like OS7. While this is scary for someone like me, who has been using pretty much every BlackBerry since the Pearl, for the first time, I WANTED a touchscreen phone.

Sure, there is the Torch 9860. It looks like a great phone, but I don't get the feeling that by NOT having it, I'd be missing out on stuff that my 9810 or 9900 can't do. I was NEVER excited about the iPhone. Not even tempted. To me, iOS isn't "powerful." It is extremely basic. QNX is the exact opposite. I won't list all the industries it is in, as it's been talked about before. Not that the fact that QNX in Las Vegas fountain shows has ANYTHING to do with BlackBerry10, but the fact that QNX is capable of doing such an array of things, has me excited for the future of BlackBerry.

I can count two times that an event or unveiling by RIM has made me smile that ear-to-ear, geeked out smile. The first time was in September 2010 when they announced the PlayBook. I was ecstatic, smiling into my Mac Book screen, watching the unveiling over and over, checking here and BGR.com for ANY details of its release. The second time was the unveiling of the Bold 9900, and each leaked picture and commercial, months prior to it being official. I just had to have it, it was my dream Berry. Well... the third time RIM genuinely got a smile out of me and just a.. sick sense of happiness, was Thorsten's keynote video. Seeing the camera features, the keyboard, the transitions on the screen, with the email thing where you swipe from the side.

It looks like RIM finally took all the little companies they bought, and created quite the weapon to take it to Apple and Android. And I'm excited about it. Excited enough to make the first BB10 phone my very first full touchscreen phone.

[varunsain]

SK122387 Thx for the reply.. I can relate to a lot of things you mentioned but politely in contrast!

The native messages app showed a PDF attachment... Does it really load things that fast?

[SK122387]

SK122387 Thx for the reply.. I can relate to a lot of things you mentioned but politely in contrast!

The native messages app showed a PDF attachment... Does it really load things that fast?

Well I'm thinking that yeah, things do load that fast, since what we saw demo'd during the keynote was not just a video--it was the actual device being used. Of course, it will depend on the network or WiFi you're on, to load the PDF file in the email, but even now, I'm on T-Mobile's "4G," and whatever attachments in emails usually load within a few seconds.

[Eli_B]

After watching the keynote at BlackBerry World and some of the video from the Jam sessions, I'm convinced that BB10 will be a wonderful OS with lots of awesome features.

As Thorsten Heins said in his keynote address 'That's only the beginning. There's more to come'...and I truly believe that.....

[Superfly_FR]

No one else had that certain je ne c 'est quoi.
She has been beaten. She has been battered. But she will rise again, like a Phoenix from the ashes. I await, secure in the knowledge of her majesty and beauty.

+1 for Shakespeare, but for Molière ... would be "certain je ne sais quoi." ... and for Jean de La Fontaine, surely :"La Playbook est le phénix des hôtes de ce marché" ;-)

Edit : of course,I hit the Yes !

[phoanyone]

It will be big... for BB supporters. The best case scenario is for RIM to take 3rd place over Microsoft, but behind Apple and Android. The smart phone and tablet revolution is done. Like all technology, once discovered, it can only be refined and enhanced. And with an enhanced BB10, do you think it will be enough to win over the Apple and Android hoards? With BB's reputation as a phone for older business people, I doubt it. Two things are needed in order for BB to regain the smart phone top spot. A miracle and a revolution. BB10 will be neither.

[jivegirl14]

So the good news is that the PlayBook is gonna be completely overhauled upon the release of BlackBerry 10! Not so great news for current OS7 users but 200 dedicated OS7 staff should cover that post BlackBerry 10 launch..

However, we got to see a lot of stuff relating to BB10 and many sneak peaks into what can be expected on this very new and intuitive BB10 platform. Some key points over the weeks..

1.) BB10 will be fast, intuitive and easy to operate with focus on one-hand operations.
2.) New features showcased such as Scalado Camera with live-timeline, Always-on Messages, Widgets/Windows tiles, Predictive keyboard, etc.
3.) Bezel/Gesture based BB10 with advanced and in-app gestures
4.) Developers are beginning to understand the platform and harness the potential. A good example would be Accuweather with live weather background, uniform app design based on BB10 OS and super-fast loading. Expect all native apps to perform extremely fast and have swell graphic animations.

This is just the beginning of a long journey.. I can't wait to get my hands on a BB10 device and be the first to switch.. Are you convinced?

There should be a "not sure, wait and see" or "it's likely" option. Because it really depends on what the final product is actually like. I'd like to stay with Blackberry but they need to make it a no-brainer. I will consider what's on offer from the competition and make a decision based on that, though Blackberry would be my first choice.

The fact the first offering is going to be the "slab of glass" design as opposed to having a tactile keyboard as in the Bold 9900 is a substantial change and a concern for me. The market now wants on-screen keyboards so I understand why they are doing it, but not everyone wants an onscreen keyboard. Plus it sounds like anything with a tactile keyboard will be out much later (if at all). Would be nice if both were released at the same time. Having said that maybe I'd be able to adjust to it, but it's still an on-screen keyboard not a tactile one and with that it has to be considered alongside the competition as one of the main diferentiators is no longer.
I want a better app ecosystem (by which I mean as good as or better than the competition), I want to be able to cross-platform stuff with my friends on other platforms, I want not to spend ages rebooting my phone and I want the end of the spinning clock. I've read a lot of promises and hopes and speculation, they sound exciting but so far they are exactly that.

If the battery life is anything like the 9900 (nice phone, shame about the battery) then half the much-touted abilities of the new phone won't be usable anyway without the need for carrying around chargers/spare batteries.
RIM could lock in people to an upgrade to the new phones if it at least showed it was treating its existing customers a little better - offer a decent discount to upgrade from or trade in their soon to be obsolete OS7 phones. Every little helps.

[sjefferson21]

yes RIM has let me down in SMALL doses. But the big picture is always a device that becomes a vital tool for me with features that I love and funtionality that I appreciate greatly. So.... BB10 is definitely my next move.

[maam]

I'm convinced!! Was going to pick up a p9981, but the bb10 just looks/sounds too awesome to stick with my os7 platform eh

[kennyliu]

I haven't seen anything convincing yet. All that has been shown is either not new (e.g. Scalado Rewind, the keyboard, etc.) or doesn't yet exist (from what I read, even the Alpha device doesn't have most of the new features). All we've seen are mockups that may or may not materialize.

Before I say I am convinced I want to see, among other things:
- The specs, notably the screen size/resolution/technology (I am pretty spoiled by hi-res, good quality displays on all of my devices) and the battery life of the actual BB10 phones, etc.
- The price.
- Whether RIM gets a multi-platform communication solution (e.g. Skype). Now, my Android phone is filling that gap that the Playbook has.
- Whether there are GPS apps available by then.
- Whether they finally enable background services (I have to always be online for my messaging/Skyping needs).

So, for now, I'll abstain from voting as there is no option "I don't know yet" or "Too early to say".

[varunsain]

It will be big... for BB supporters. The best case scenario is for RIM to take 3rd place over Microsoft, but behind Apple and Android. The smart phone and tablet revolution is done. Like all technology, once discovered, it can only be refined and enhanced. And with an enhanced BB10, do you think it will be enough to win over the Apple and Android hoards? With BB's reputation as a phone for older business people, I doubt it. Two things are needed in order for BB to regain the smart phone top spot. A miracle and a revolution. BB10 will be neither.

I would love to say that RIM will move ahead of Android and Apple but we will have to wait for that.. It's a new generation and very soon we will know what's the future like for everyone.. Microsoft.. Honestly, I love them and I hope to see them win! RIM should be the sister concern of Microsoft and trust me.. trust me the world would be a better place.

There should be a "not sure, wait and see" or "it's likely" option. Because it really depends on what the final product is actually like. I'd like to stay with Blackberry but they need to make it a no-brainer. I will consider what's on offer from the competition and make a decision based on that, though Blackberry would be my first choice.

There is no 'not sure' option because this is the preview RIM has given to us until now and based on what you have seen, you need to decide. Many users might renew their contracts now, so if you are one of those, then would you wait after seeing the brief demo? Yes, many users in here have taken the decision to wait or even downgrade! I say good choice..

The fact the first offering is going to be the "slab of glass" design as opposed to having a tactile keyboard as in the Bold 9900 is a substantial change and a concern for me. The market now wants on-screen keyboards so I understand why they are doing it, but not everyone wants an onscreen keyboard. Plus it sounds like anything with a tactile keyboard will be out much later (if at all). Would be nice if both were released at the same time. Having said that maybe I'd be able to adjust to it, but it's still an on-screen keyboard not a tactile one and with that it has to be considered alongside the competition as one of the main diferentiators is no longer.

Physical keyboards are officially confirmed - you can't expect them to leak their design or unveil it so early in development. Apple does this only a month in advance. So you have to wait it out to know if the Physical keyboard option will work for you. I, myself can't wait for a glimpse of the physical keyboard BB10.. However, I am already convinced!

I want a better app ecosystem (by which I mean as good as or better than the competition), I want to be able to cross-platform stuff with my friends on other platforms, I want not to spend ages rebooting my phone and I want the end of the spinning clock. I've read a lot of promises and hopes and speculation, they sound exciting but so far they are exactly that.

The app ecosystem has been heavily improved upon already, but a one better than Apple or Android may not be possible. I believe RIM can control competition by 'Native app' developments but Third-party apps are in the pockets of Apple mainly, which I firmly believe Apple has a strong political monopoly over..

Rebooting will take time, but number of reboots will be reduced! A BlackBerry device can actually reboot very quick.. If you notice, the PlayBook is actually active in internal connections (bluetooth, wifi, etc.) even before the device is on homescreen, but security checks , policy, certificates and all that I'm guessing eats up some time..

Spinning clock!! Love it! You know that your device is processing some details! Better to stay informed right?

If the battery life is anything like the 9900 (nice phone, shame about the battery) then half the much-touted abilities of the new phone won't be usable anyway without the need for carrying around chargers/spare batteries.

yes RIM has let me down in SMALL doses. But the big picture is always a device that becomes a vital tool for me with features that I love and funtionality that I appreciate greatly. So.... BB10 is definitely my next move.

Thanks for voting..

I haven't seen anything convincing yet. All that has been shown is either not new (e.g. Scalado Rewind, the keyboard, etc.) or doesn't yet exist (from what I read, even the Alpha device doesn't have most of the new features). All we've seen are mockups that may or may not materialize.

Kennyliu!!! The Almighty! Seen it all.. Heard it all.. Have it all? The Dev Alpha, like it's name suggests, is for testing Applications. Period. .. ........... The demo flow, connectivity, camera, apps, etc. were not a 'mock-up' but rather a small demo of the final product

Before I say I am convinced I want to see, among other things:

- The specs, notably the screen size/resolution/technology (I am pretty spoiled by hi-res, good quality displays on all of my devices) and the battery life of the actual BB10 phones, etc. - Resolution, I may request RIM not to outsmart the best and leave it at what is comfortable.. The res on Dev Alpha is high, but I'm expecting it to lower.

- The price. - Ofcourse the BB is worth a lot more than what it sells for...

- Whether RIM gets a multi-platform communication solution (e.g. Skype). Now, my Android phone is filling that gap that the Playbook has. - RIM already is ahead in multi-platform compatibility, maybe not specifically with apps. We have a thread on how Apple refuses to accept BB BT connection. Skype is really old school now, Screen sharing and video chat are expected to be native to BB device. We can hope to have BB and PB integrated with video calls and sharing. This would really expand the base.

- Whether there are GPS apps available by then. - TomTom is partnered with RIM now so we can expect some rapid developments on this..

- Whether they finally enable background services (I have to always be online for my messaging/Skyping needs). - You have to get used to the new platform. I leave my apps in minimized state (bottom to up bezel gesture) for days.. It's more of a mental thing to have everything shut..

So, for now, I'll abstain from voting as there is no option "I don't know yet" or "Too early to say".

No worries, Thanks for your reply..