BB10 - Who needs it
Right - lets get this out of the way first - I was a might unhappy about it not being available for day 1.
But upon reflecion I've begun to wonder if I need it at all. After all I don't use SKYPE and the PB does a lot of things I require and to my mind does it better than any other tablet.
Add to that the rumoured news that SKYPE ( and others ? ) are going to be android ports and I'm actually wondering why people don't just buy an Android tablet that will do it without emulation and all the extra horesepower that requires.
So all I really want is for BB/RIM to get of its collective arse and give me a working USB port and I can keep my PB by my side for a long time to come.
- CrackBerry Addict
02-08-13, 03:46 AM #2
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Although I agree that the Playbook is a great tablet, the extra interest put in by app developers (even if they are "only" ports) because the BB10 OS being on phones is (or at least will be) a major advantage to the selection availble for the Playbook, thereby making the Playbook even more useful to a vast swathe of people.
The more users, the more devs. The more devs, the more apps. The more apps, the more users and the more userful the device becomes.
- 02-08-13, 04:12 AM #3
I don't need it. When it comes, I'll probably use it just because its available. But i don't need it. Before purchasing my first Playbook, I researched many tablets and found that the Playbook was best suited for me. I now have 3 Playbooks.....1 for home, 1 for work and 1 for my son.
- CrackBerry User
02-08-13, 05:04 AM #5But upon reflecion I've begun to wonder if I need it at all. After all I don't use SKYPE and the PB does a lot of things I require and to my mind does it better than any other tablet.
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With regard to porting an app though - does the dev recompile with BBOS as a target option or is it being ported to run under android emulation ?
- 02-08-13, 05:49 AM #8
Since getting my PlayBook, I've developed an interest in being able to use Skype - for me it's not a deal breaker, because it's not truly essential for me. Same for the Kindle app (and yes I realise you can sideload an aging Android build of it, but it's useless to me, since that version doesn't support whispersync of non-Amazon titles).
Sometimes peoples wants / needs change, and the esoteric can possibly be excused, but mainstream, big blockbuster apps can be quite stark gaps. I don't care, truly, if there's a big disparity between the number of apps in BlackBerry's app store, compared with Google Play, or iTunes - at least not on principle - the apps I choose to install, isn't a big number, and rarely changes.
But then I'm not vocally unhappy with my PlayBook, probably more towards the opposite of that. All the same, though, research is one thing, but requirements or wants change - sometimes purely because people don't know how they're really going to use something until they get it, sometimes because circumstances change.
- 02-08-13, 06:00 AM #9
Nobody really "NEED" BB10, what everybody wants are the app that BB10 bring us. But, to get these apps we need BB10... That's why, we want this new OS.
By waiting BB10, we also know that no more app are coming to our playbook, before this update. What kind of developper would work hardly to make an app for OS2.1, if he knows that in "later this year", a totally new OS is coming ?
We are in a gap now, OS2 is here, but BB10 is coming. We have to wait with nothing really exciting coming for our PB before the update.
- CrackBerry Addict
02-08-13, 08:39 AM #11
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I have been so excited for BB10 to arrive, and was confident we would have USB sync of Outlook. Due to ethical constraints I cannot put my contacts and calendar in the cloud. Now I am not so sure. Going backwards with Bridge is confusing to me. We just have to give this some time and see where things end up. I am in the U. S. so no Z10 until March and no idea about BB10 on PB. I am not about to "upgrade" to less functionality, so I will have to decide then.
- CrackBerry Addict
02-08-13, 10:20 AM #15
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BB10 is basically a hybrid of QNX and BB OS. If you take away the phone what are you left with? Basically the Playbook OS we currently enjoy.
The only reason I see to upgrade is that development will stop on PlayBook OS Apps so anything new will be geared towards BB 10 only.
This conversation has nothing to do with BB 10 Phones. I WILL get one just as soon as I can justify it.
- CrackBerry User
02-08-13, 10:55 AM #16
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it seems that crackberry or BB (aka rim) is trying to push people away from asking bb10 on playbook. you like it or not thats what i am thinking.
other thing is, of course i want/need BB10 on playbook, who do you think will develop new apps or even update existing apps for a discontinued machine? as a partly developer person, i wouldnt touch a such system.
the other thing is relaying on somebody else's platform and app! i am talking about android of course. I installed many ported apps to my playbook, and all i can say is that shouldnt be that way to go, as the ported apps dont give the right flavor.
- 02-08-13, 11:32 AM #18
There are some on this site that believe they know enough about BB10 already to say it won't function correctly on Playbook. No evidence, no proof, just a comparison to a crippled development version. I really doubt that a BB10 version would come out for the Playbook and be that pathetic. I would not make any sense. It may be a slimmed version but if it only allows BB10 apps then that's enough in itself to warrant it. Have you notice the lack of great apps in the past month or so? The future is BB10 regardless if a few like it or not.
- 02-08-13, 11:50 AM #19
For some people it's all about more and more apps - a wild and diverse smorgasbord of them, for those taken with the shiny-shiny.
Me, personally, I doubt there's going to be any huge game changers in terms of apps I want to use. If BB10 comes and it brings with it steady availability of core things that have been lacking (eg Skype, Kindle) then all well and good. Otherwise, though, the PlayBook OS is already QNX. So it might look a bit swisher, but if I'm not clamouring for loads more apps, why would it be that key?
Truth be told, I've got what I want, largely, in terms of what I do with it, app developers aren't likely going to change that through not having the same focus on the current PlayBook OS any more. I don't think BB10 is such a huge leap for the PlayBook as it will be for the handset market. No, I hear you cry, there will be loads more apps - "So what?" is my response.
Apps, apps, and more apps may be the war cry of the texting generation, but it would be bogus to assume that the entire demographic is obsessed with them.
- 02-08-13, 02:01 PM #21
02-08-13, 05:25 PM #22
- 359 Posts
Just use what works for you. BB10 on the PB would be a nice upgrade but it's *not* essential for everyone.
Some people are just never satisfied and always want the latest "thing" just to look fashionable or to brag or in rarer cases to make their lives more productive.
I don't quite see where some people get the idea bb10 wont run on the playbook, after all i would think 2.1 is only an older version of bb10.
And bb will have to remove all the phone relevant content for the wifi playbook at least as it will serve no purpose.
Finally, there is no need for faster processors and more memory as the current pb proves it can do any number of tasks perfectly well. Sure more memory and more processors can mean more processes running at the same time, but really, who needs 20 apps funning at once. Better usage of the existing hardware would be a lower cost better alternative at the moment for BB imho.
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